Moontanman Posted April 10, 2012 Report Posted April 10, 2012 The Thread, despite the challenge it entailed and the complexity of its needed basis still managed to parry at any test for its veracity. No, in fact this thread has not confirmed it's veracity at any point, it has been nothing but speculative nonsense from the very beginning. Even as this thread will continue to proceed towards more exciting realms be assured that even you will admit of its consistency, or neither contradicted any verifiable facts in Science, and even called for possible debunking of some convnentional theories in the light of revelations discussed in the process. Again, this thread is nothing but nonsense. However, perhaps I may try to re-edit the statement to maintain the veracity of the Thread, and instead of referring to silicon-based, may as well refer to the evolution of reptilian to differentiate between mammalian species in the timeline that this Thread had discussed, actually spanning to hundreds of millions of years, which this thread had traced is not a mean feat in itself. I may also refer to the term "silicon" more specifically on the evolution of the early species from primordial soup on silica surface. The thread has now maintained the veracity of the terms. Strange and fascinating it may seem to be, it relies on consistency and veracity and cannot be dismissed as "silly". Mixing some theory in with fantasy doesn't make the fantasy any better. You specifically said silicon life forms roaming the planet, editing it out of your thread doesn't change the fact you said it.
rocket art Posted April 11, 2012 Author Report Posted April 11, 2012 I wasn't asking about the possibility of silicon based life. I was asking about evidence for the existence of silicon based life. Not the same thing. Please provide it. this could be for a start, a micro-organism using, gasp, arsenic for building blocks: NASA Finds New Life Talking at the NASA conference, Wolfe-Simon said that the important thing in their study is that this breaks our ideas on how life can be created and grow, pointing out that scientists will now be looking for new types of organisms and metabolism that not only uses arsenic, but other elements as well. She says that she's working on a few possibilities herself. NASA's geobiologist Pamela Conrad thinks that the discovery is huge and "phenomenal," comparing it to the Star Trek episode in which the Enterprise crew finds Horta, a silicon-based alien life form that can't be detected with tricorders because it wasn't carbon-based. It's like saying that we may be looking for new life in the wrong places with the wrong methods. Indeed, NASA tweeted that this discovery "will change how we search for life elsewhere in the Universe." Op-Ed: NASA scientist finds evidence of alien micro fossils Electron microscope images obtained from the meteorite show some very familiar biological configurations and filaments which are instantly recognizable. The real issue is whether or not these fossils of terrestrial origin. Dr Hoover's research includes extensive chemical profiling showing strong evidence of silicon, magnesium and sulphur in the samples. http://gizmodo.com/5704158/nasa-finds-new-life I do believe however, that you agree on the important role of silicon in the primordial stages of evolution, which was among the more abundant minerals with 90% of the Planet's crust made of silicate materials, that determined the formation of carbon compounds in terrestrial life, and in such stage of evolution the reptilian species first evolved, which eventually more complex lifeforms as our mammalian ancestors evolved from. This is the position that this Thread has now rectified itself to maintain the consistency, actually even heeding your advice, and it would be prudent to proceed with other topics or perhaps other angles relative to the discussion (although the possibility of an entirely different branch of probable extraterrestrial lifeform or intelligence with significant silicon content is neither discounted).
rocket art Posted April 11, 2012 Author Report Posted April 11, 2012 (edited) No, in fact this thread has not confirmed it's veracity at any point, it has been nothing but speculative nonsense from the very beginning. Again, this thread is nothing but nonsense. Mixing some theory in with fantasy doesn't make the fantasy any better. You specifically said silicon life forms roaming the planet, editing it out of your thread doesn't change the fact you said it. don't you feel tired and silly repeating the same rant over and over, clinking your favorite neg-rep button the nth time, traveling to Mars and back, 13 long pages and counting? do get over with the silicon thing, this thread had already resolved and fixed it.seems however it's your repetitive record that's broken, fix it I'll take educated guess over fairy tale any day. really, well then let's start your day with these to while your time rather than waste it contributing to creating some lamentable "nutjob" society with the comedy of honoring a servant mentality, though it may not be some educated guess you'd rather wish: The Secret Diary of Admiral Richard Evelyn Byrd http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97YkOWwUE2Y&feature=relmfu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZaoUL66iis&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtwGmKbsQTU except that they ain't fairy tale either, have a nice day! Edited April 11, 2012 by rocket art
Eudoxus Posted April 11, 2012 Report Posted April 11, 2012 The arsenic nonsense was proven false; there was contamination in the samples and the researchers drew a hasty conclusion without enough evidence. Also you don't seem to know what a fossil is. A fossil is a desceased organism whose remains are replaced with minerals. Whatever those blobs in the meteorite are (the idea that they are fossils is a minority opinion) they are made of a mineral containing Si, Mg, and S. The mineral in question has already probably been identified, nut you can't expect a tech site like Gizmodo to know jack about that. Nice source, by the way. And I don't agree with you on the importance of silicon in the evolution of life. First off, silicon is not a mineral, it's an element. Please do some ****ing research. Second, pure silicon does not form naturally on earth. It occurs as silica, which is biologically inactive and only utilized, with great difficulty, by a handful of invertebrates. Silicon can also occur in the silicate familly of minerals. The main importance of these is that plants can break them down, DISCARD most of the silicon, and extract carbon, nitrogen, sulfer, phosphate, and metals. I don't think you've taken a science class above the middle or highschool level, have you? (cue "BRAINWASHING!!!" nonsense.) Moontanman 1
Moontanman Posted April 11, 2012 Report Posted April 11, 2012 don't you feel tired and silly repeating the same rant over and over, clinking your favorite neg-rep button the nth time, traveling to Mars and back, 13 long pages and counting? You asked for it got it! do get over with the silicon thing, this thread had already resolved and fixed it.seems however it's your repetitive record that's broken, fix it You are correct, with the monumental stupidity of the rest of your posts the "reptiles are silicon life forms" fits quite well...
rocket art Posted April 11, 2012 Author Report Posted April 11, 2012 (edited) The arsenic nonsense was proven false; there was contamination in the samples and the researchers drew a hasty conclusion without enough evidence. nice revelation then, no need to debate on that. Also you don't seem to know what a fossil is. A fossil is a desceased organism whose remains are replaced with minerals. Whatever those blobs in the meteorite are (the idea that they are fossils is a minority opinion) they are made of a mineral containing Si, Mg, and S. The mineral in question has already probably been identified, nut you can't expect a tech site like Gizmodo to know jack about that. Nice source, by the way. Wow! Amazing! Excellent definition of fossil I should have known! Could you please explain these fossilized rock formations too, the official conclusion sounded stupid , maybe you could provide more intelligent conviction :hyper: After examination of the phenomenon, Corps of Engineers geologists and those of other agencies have concluded that it is a natural geological formation. Although such formations are not common, similar patterned boulders were found on the east side of Tea Creek Mountain in Pocahontas County, West Virginia. Dr. Jack B. Epstein of the Geological Survey, U.S. Department of the interior, explained that the waffle rock is part of the Conemaugh geologic series that was deposited about 300 million years ago during the Pennsylvanian period. It is surmised that the waffle rock is a large loose boulder that fell from a parent outcrop somewhere higher up the slope, many decades ago, before the present trees grew.http://www.rense.com/general3/foss.htm[/i] And I don't agree with you on the importance of silicon in the evolution of life. First off, silicon is not a mineral, it's an element. Please do some ****ing research. Second, pure silicon does not form naturally on earth. It occurs as silica, which is biologically inactive and only utilized, with great difficulty, by a handful of invertebrates. Silicon can also occur in the silicate familly of minerals. The main importance of these is that plants can break them down, DISCARD most of the silicon, and extract carbon, nitrogen, sulfer, phosphate, and metals. I don't think you've taken a science class above the middle or highschool level, have you? (cue "BRAINWASHING!!!" nonsense.) but of course neither would there be silica without the presence of silicon element, being the 8th most common element in the Universe is something you just discard like some highscool on tantrum. oh really, you should have evolved into an intelligent blob of jelly in that case. Edited April 11, 2012 by rocket art
pamela Posted April 11, 2012 Report Posted April 11, 2012 Seriously rocket- reptilian? for the love of pete, if you drag in nabiru and sumerian conspiracy tripe, then this thread will close indefinitely. Science please, not illogical speculation and provide PROOF not this so called evidence :(
rocket art Posted April 11, 2012 Author Report Posted April 11, 2012 Seriously rocket- reptilian? for the love of pete, if you drag in nabiru and sumerian conspiracy tripe, then this thread will close indefinitely. Science please, not illogical speculation and provide PROOF not this so called evidence :( Well ok then, though physical evidence for a civilization that possibly existed prior to the Permian Triassic Extinction Event about 250 million years ago would be quiet a Hercuelan task (and Hercules wasn't even born yet!). However, ancient repositories of knowledge embedded deep within the psyche of Humanity did manifest, and so do highly complex, yet to be explained phenomenon occurring more and more stubbornly that prod Humanity to its challenges just cannot be denied, neither would it be dismissed as outright improbable and should not be discounted either. To adhere with more scientific basis, the thread may resume to its previous topics, previous discussions on the geological factors, even beyond the planet and towards outer space in Mars that further support the position of this Thread had reached to such broad, expanded level, and from these further proceed.
belovelife Posted April 11, 2012 Report Posted April 11, 2012 kinda like the mass extinction similar to the one we have madeonly proof i can think of :unsure:
Eudoxus Posted April 11, 2012 Report Posted April 11, 2012 Wow! Amazing! Excellent definition of fossil I should have known! Could you please explain these fossilized rock formations too, the official conclusion sounded stupid , maybe you could provide more intelligent conviction :hyper: . I just told you the definition of fossil, you say you already know it, then say something that shows you have no idea what a fossil is by calling a rock formation a fossil. Smart. And yes that picture is a natural rock formation, it's a result of ice spalling and such, you can get all sorts of wierd patterns (some wierder than that) depending on the geology and the freeze-thaw cycle.
rocket art Posted April 11, 2012 Author Report Posted April 11, 2012 (edited) . I just told you the definition of fossil, you say you already know it, then say something that shows you have no idea what a fossil is by calling a rock formation a fossil. Smart. And yes that picture is a natural rock formation, it's a result of ice spalling and such, you can get all sorts of wierd patterns (some wierder than that) depending on the geology and the freeze-thaw cycle. uh, ok. right, rock formation, at least it's not some, uh, organic giant skeletal remains. kinda like the mass extinction similar to the one we have madeonly proof i can think of :unsure: yup, with some bits of surviving species like coelacanths and cockroach critters :unsure: Edited April 11, 2012 by rocket art
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