dean32 Posted January 24, 2012 Report Posted January 24, 2012 around march/april 2006 and was walking through a field and noticed a very bright star. i was looking at it and with in just 5 seconds it turned very red and then disappeared. i always wondered what it was and nearly 6 years later have decided to find out. any ideas? Quote
sigurdV Posted January 24, 2012 Report Posted January 24, 2012 around march/april 2006 and was walking through a field and noticed a very bright star. i was looking at it and with in just 5 seconds it turned very red and then disappeared. i always wondered what it was and nearly 6 years later have decided to find out. any ideas? The null hypothesis is u imagined it or... I am afraid you saw the closing of a Dyson Sphere, in that case we will never see that star again. Your report worries me some...since it could/should be a nearby star ... Quote
dean32 Posted January 24, 2012 Author Report Posted January 24, 2012 The null hypothesis is u imagined it or... I am afraid you saw the closing of a Dyson Sphere, in that case we will never see that star again. Your report worries me some...since it could/should be a nearby star ...i defiantly didn't imagine it, its what my naked eye saw anyway. could you explain to me in simple terms what you mean about a closing of a dyson sphere? it was very strange, it made me feel a bit odd like i saw something that wasn't ment to happen... strange i know but it made me feel that way. Quote
CraigD Posted January 26, 2012 Report Posted January 26, 2012 I defiantly didn't imagine it, its what my naked eye saw anyway. My guess would be you saw a satellite flare on a night where the air had the right clouds and contamination to give reflected sunlight, which is usually white, a red coloring. Thinking back, can you recall if what you saw showed any movement against the background stars? Another possibility is that you saw an ordinary star being blocked by a cloud, as above, with a gradual fringe with red-tinting particles or chemicals in it. Aircraft light are another possibility, though I’ve never seen any that turn slowly read, then off. Could you explain to me in simple terms what you mean about a closing of a Dyson sphere? Sigurd jokes, I think. A Dyson sphere is an artificial shell or other configuration of light-blocking objects that completely encloses a star. Around 1960, speculating about how advanced technological civilizations might get a lot of energy, Freeman Dyson hypothesized that they might build such a thing. As a Dyson sphere was completed – “closed” – the light of its star would disappear. This might happen quickly, explaining the star “turn off” you saw. This is a pretty implausible explanation, though. :thumbs_do Nobody’s discovered conclusive evidence of a Dyson sphere, though if any exist, they could be very hard to detect. They’re a great science fiction subject, perhaps the prettiest 1992’s Relics episode of Star Trek TNG. :) Quote
Eclogite Posted January 27, 2012 Report Posted January 27, 2012 You were walking through a field. Were you actually moving forwards during the moments of your observation? I often walk in fields. They are notoriously uneven places. At night, even by moonlight, they become more difficult to traverse without stumbling. It is probable that if you were walking you woul, quite naturally, have looked down to see where you were placing your feet. This would be occuring automatically so that you would likely not even register the fact that you had looked down. This allows then for confusion over which star you were looking at, or aircraft lights, etc. I realise you remember the event clearly, but research has shown that eye witness testimony is hugely unreliable. Since I wouldn't trust myself to remember an event clearly, you will understand I have reservations about your recollection. Quote
sigurdV Posted January 29, 2012 Report Posted January 29, 2012 My guess would be you saw a satellite flare on a night where the air had the right clouds and contamination to give reflected sunlight, which is usually white, a red coloring. Thinking back, can you recall if what you saw showed any movement against the background stars? Another possibility is that you saw an ordinary star being blocked by a cloud, as above, with a gradual fringe with red-tinting particles or chemicals in it. Aircraft light are another possibility, though I’ve never seen any that turn slowly read, then off. Sigurd jokes, I think. A Dyson sphere is an artificial shell or other configuration of light-blocking objects that completely encloses a star. Around 1960, speculating about how advanced technological civilizations might get a lot of energy, Freeman Dyson hypothesized that they might build such a thing. As a Dyson sphere was completed – “closed” – the light of its star would disappear. This might happen quickly, explaining the star “turn off” you saw. This is a pretty implausible explanation, though. :thumbs_do Nobody’s discovered conclusive evidence of a Dyson sphere, though if any exist, they could be very hard to detect. They’re a great science fiction subject, perhaps the prettiest 1992’s Relics episode of Star Trek TNG. :) I was only daydreaming... Didnt even try to explain the red effect. Quote
maddog Posted February 9, 2012 Report Posted February 9, 2012 around march/april 2006 and was walking through a field and noticed a very bright star. i was looking at it and with in just 5 seconds it turned very red and then disappeared. i always wondered what it was and nearly 6 years later have decided to find out. any ideas?I liked CraigD's ideas though I can think of one more... When you were looking at this star, was it near the horizon? If so, it may have been setting. As stars get toward the horizon they shift toward the red because of traveling through moreatmosphere. I actually would expect this to be more gradual. Though when you add to thisoff in the distance a passing thin cloud that passed in front of the star, this would make it"wink out" more abruptly. maddog Quote
sigurdV Posted February 9, 2012 Report Posted February 9, 2012 Nobody’s discovered conclusive evidence of a Dyson sphere, though if any exist, they could be very hard to detect. They’re a great science fiction subject, perhaps the prettiest 1992’s Relics episode of Star Trek TNG. :) We dont see the universe as it really is, now , we see it as it was a very long time ago. Even if theres zillions of civilisations in our galaxy at the moment we wont see any disappearing star yet because of the difficulties and the distances involved We aint gonna build any sphere yet, so we think no sphere was built anywhere Suppose we are not the only civilisation? As we so proudly think we are. And suppose we instead are the latest born civilisation in the universe. As we cant imagine us to be... Then its too late to understand that we are in deep trouble if we dont have our Dyson Sphere on, when the first star disappears. So of course I am joking ;) Since I cant imagine us to be in deep trouble. Probability? Bah! We are the chosen. Quote
maddog Posted February 10, 2012 Report Posted February 10, 2012 ... Suppose we are not the only civilisation? ...The only problem I had with what you said is considering that "... we are not the only civilisation..."This would presuppose that we are a "civilization" ... Of course I'mreferring in a "universal" context as you are comparing us to. How could we be when we treat those of our kind so or the other inhabitants weshare this planet with. What about Man's Inhumanity to Man and all. Life out there -- no question in my mind. "Intelligent" Life ? Well, you must startwith what is your definition of "intelligent". Is the distinction that "toolmaking" is a prerequisite, then there are many kinds of animals that make tools. Are they Intelligent ? Just some food for thought... maddog Quote
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