Ground Water Tributories And Connecting Systems

[7DSUSYstrings]

http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/explorations/10lophelia/logs/oct19/oct19.html

 

This isn't the page I was looking for, but it is interesting, so I thought I'd bring it in. I'm going to be really busy with that plumbing project today, so I won't be able to make many in depth posts.

 

I unquestionably appreciate your doing some of the "surfing" for my purposes. I'm very interested in getting involved in some of your math writings. I took calc 1, 2 and (then) 3. I think today only 1 and 2 are offered because then 3 involved tensors more than anything else, but also involved attractors and such. To the best of my knowledge today all that is amalgamated into 2.

 

I managed to get through all of them. The incentive was that if I didn't I'd likely end up in Vietnam, probably, in my case, as a door gunner on a chopper.

 

Birds of a feather...

 

I'm not a great math guy. My philosophy is if I hang out with math guys and discuss Peano and Bertrand Russell theorems, I'll get better at all that. :)

 

Yellowstone is fascinating. Undersea supervolcanoes are, too.

 

In a bit...

[Turtle]

http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/explorations/10lophelia/logs/oct19/oct19.html

 

This isn't the page I was looking for, but it is interesting, so I thought I'd bring it in. I'm going to be really busy with that plumbing project today, so I won't be able to make many in depth posts.

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In a bit...

 

ok. what i get from the article is that the undersea landscape they explored in the gulf resembles the terrestrial landscape at yellowstone, not that there is a brine lake at yellowstone. will do some more checking...

 

ps looks like the saline and other mineralization of subsurface water at yellowstone is due to leaching from surrounding rock. >> Geochemistry of Sublacustrine Hydrothermal Deposits

 

i forget the specific terms concerning the thresholds at which minerals dissolve in water -as well as precipitate out-, and as my geology professors would tell you, my grasp of chemistry is more of a reach. :lol: anyway, it is a nuanced dance orchestrated by the immediate specifics of temperature, pressure, available minerals, and the time/duration of these components' interactions.

Edited March 28, 2012 by Turtle

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ok. what i get from the article is that the undersea landscape they explored in the gulf resembles the terrestrial landscape at yellowstone, not that there is a brine lake at yellowstone. will do some more checking...

 

ps looks like the saline and other mineralization of subsurface water at yellowstone is due to leaching from surrounding rock. >> Geochemistry of Sublacustrine Hydrothermal Deposits

 

i forget the specific terms concerning the thresholds at which minerals dissolve in water -as well as precipitate out-, and as my geology professors would tell you, my grasp of chemistry is more of a reach. :lol: anyway, it is a nuanced dance orchestrated by the immediate specifics of temperature, pressure, available minerals, and the time/duration of these components' interactions.

 

It is probably not unlike diffusion. Water is the universal solvent and where it is reduced to free radicals, the chain process, such as leaching, could continue forever. More like doing the "bird" or the "locomotive," as a dance would have it.

 

Yes. I noticed the article was about the similarity. I just thought it was interesting to compare to all this and I recently ran across an article about fracking in Louisiana that appears to be causing quakes in the area. Although I'm opposed to fracking or just about any drilling at this stage oif the game, I tought the one article might have been some hype. This one from the NOAA has me wondering about that. Of course I lean toward "safe instead of sorry."

 

I have to remember you are about 3 hours behind us. When you are posting at 10 pm I'm sawing logs... or at least should be :D

 

I'm gaining on "this old house," still some of my empirical work will be the focus soon. My sister told me once about my workload " A scientist's work is never done."

[Turtle]

It is probably not unlike diffusion. Water is the universal solvent and where it is reduced to free radicals, the chain process, such as leaching, could continue forever. More like doing the "bird" or the "locomotive," as a dance would have it.

 

Yes. I noticed the article was about the similarity. I just thought it was interesting to compare to all this and I recently ran across an article about fracking in Louisiana that appears to be causing quakes in the area. Although I'm opposed to fracking or just about any drilling at this stage oif the game, I tought the one article might have been some hype. This one from the NOAA has me wondering about that. Of course I lean toward "safe instead of sorry."

 

I have to remember you are about 3 hours behind us. When you are posting at 10 pm I'm sawing logs... or at least should be :D

 

I'm gaining on "this old house," still some of my empirical work will be the focus soon. My sister told me once about my workload " A scientist's work is never done."

 

i'm unsure about the diffusion business, or free radicals for that matter. i think "phase diagrams" are the term i was trying to remember earlier. again, as you imply, the amount of time that constituents are in a particular phase has a marked effect on the result. for example, all else being equal, maintaining conditions of a particular phase can result in large crystals of a particular mineral in a rock, whereas a shorter period results in small crystals.

 

anyway, on the fracking, the petroleum industry continues to claim they are not polluting groundwater sources nor causing quakes. no surprise there. usgs was slow, per my earlier comment, to affirm fracking/quake correlation but after study they have now have. i have a number of posts in the following thread, the entirety of which you may find of interest. the link is to the end of a thread; work back from there for the fracking business. >> Earthquakes

[Turtle]

It is probably not unlike diffusion. Water is the universal solvent and where it is reduced to free radicals, the chain process, such as leaching, could continue forever. More like doing the "bird" or the "locomotive," as a dance would have it.

 

Yes. I noticed the article was about the similarity. I just thought it was interesting to compare to all this and I recently ran across an article about fracking in Louisiana that appears to be causing quakes in the area. Although I'm opposed to fracking or just about any drilling at this stage oif the game, I tought the one article might have been some hype. This one from the NOAA has me wondering about that. Of course I lean toward "safe instead of sorry."

 

I have to remember you are about 3 hours behind us. When you are posting at 10 pm I'm sawing logs... or at least should be :D

 

I'm gaining on "this old house," still some of my empirical work will be the focus soon. My sister told me once about my workload " A scientist's work is never done."

 

i'm unsure about the diffusion business, or free radicals for that matter. i think "phase diagrams" are the term i was trying to remember earlier. again, as you imply, the amount of time that constituents are in a particular phase has a marked effect on the result. for example, all else being equal, maintaining conditions of a particular phase can result in large crystals of a particular mineral in a rock, whereas a shorter period results in small crystals.

 

anyway, on the fracking, the petroleum industry continues to claim they are not polluting groundwater sources nor causing quakes. no surprise there. usgs was slow, per my earlier comment, to affirm fracking/quake correlation but after study they now have affirmed it. i have a number of posts on the subject in the following thread, the entirety of which you may find of interest. the link is to the end of the thread; work back from there for the fracking business. >> Earthquakes

Edited March 29, 2012 by Turtle

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i'm unsure about the diffusion business, or free radicals for that matter. i think "phase diagrams" are the term i was trying to remember earlier. again, as you imply, the amount of time that constituents are in a particular phase has a marked effect on the result. for example, all else being equal, maintaining conditions of a particular phase can result in large crystals of a particular mineral in a rock, whereas a shorter period results in small crystals.

 

anyway, on the fracking, the petroleum industry continues to claim they are not polluting groundwater sources nor causing quakes. no surprise there. usgs was slow, per my earlier comment, to affirm fracking/quake correlation but after study they now have affirmed it. i have a number of posts on the subject in the following thread, the entirety of which you may find of interest. the link is to the end of the thread; work back from there for the fracking business. >> Earthquakes

 

Diffusion is like putting sugar in the Koolaid and not stirring it. All of its own bonding energy, some reactions occur. When we add energy by stirring the liquid, the reaction goes faster. Similarly, we put a steel wool pad in a beaker of water. Rust never sleeps :D

 

I'll check out the link probably a bit later. It's beautiful outside and I still have about 1.5 cu yds of clay, mud and leached sewage to dig through before my legendary plumbing project can be accessed. It appears there have been broken clay pipes doing exactly that leaching process for at least half a century, so stopping all that is likely going to mean replacing the sewer pipe all the way to the street as time goes on.

 

Part of me thinks we should rally against fracking as fiercly as the public has in the Martin-Zimmerman case.