Pincho Paxton Posted August 15, 2012 Report Posted August 15, 2012 Well those statements are all correct, but the simple answer is 1 + -1 = 0. That says it all. People forget that maths is also logic. 1 + -1 = 0... ...means, you need something positive, and something equally negative to create nothing. It's all there if you read it in English instead of as a sum. Yes, you are right, it does eliminate the Big Bang, but you still have similar physics. Most of the physics from the past were demonstrated from falling apples etc. The observations were close enough for physics to work, but most of the physics are in reverse. With an infinite Universe you have lots of pressure fractally arranged, so instead of the Big Bang you just have the Black Holes from pressure, and they are all in the Galaxies. So the singularity is really the Black Hole at the centre of each Galaxy. Quote
Urod Posted August 15, 2012 Author Report Posted August 15, 2012 Well those statements are all correct, but the simple answer is 1 + -1 = 0. That says it all. People forget that maths is also logic. Yes, you are right, it does eliminate the Big Bang, but you still have similar physics. Most of the physics from the past were demonstrated from falling apples etc. The observations were close enough for physics to work, but most of the physics are in reverse. With an infinite Universe you have lots of pressure fractally arranged, so instead of the Big Bang you just have the Black Holes from pressure, and they are all in the Galaxies. So the singularity is really the Black Hole at the centre of each Galaxy. But before we get into galaxies and black holes let's address the subject at hand : the foundation , what the Universe is made of , the SuperFluid . And before we get into its properties we first need to Prove Logically that the Universe is a SuperFluid .Volovik's superfluid , as he states , is different than anything else we know ... Quote
Pincho Paxton Posted August 15, 2012 Report Posted August 15, 2012 It's a scalar grain structure. You can determine its physics from nature itself. Most of spacetime is full of planets, galaxies, and Suns. But living on Earth you have all of these other shapes to work with. To determine the structure of spacetime you need a force that creates all of these shapes. Most of the shapes are hexagons. The ones that aren't hexagons can be made from hexagons. For example, you can easily make a sphere from hexagons, and the 360% of a circle was calculated from people who studied hexagons. Therefore the forces that are required emanate from six points when put under the pressure of gravity. Gravity creates pressure from the Y plane. But you need a hexagon that is 3 dimensional, and this shape doesn't seem possible. Yet it is possible in a grain structure. Using Newton's kissing problem you can create a grain structure that will emanate physics through six points from gravity in the Y plane. All of nature has clues to this structure, even an Octopus with 8 legs shows physics from combined hexagon structures. But this answer will take you a long time to understand. It will take you probably a year just to study enough of nature, and physics to start to realise why you need Newton's kissing problem. You will also need to look at snowflakes, and also the Bose / Einstein condensate. Snowflakes hold the key, because snowflake maths is quite complex, yet the answer using Newton's kissing problem is very simple. You can program a snowflake with hardly any maths. You get a perfect snowflake, and the patterns are quite complex. The simple answer... Spacetime is a grain structure of equal opposites, the grain is infinite, so the grain is stacked. It behaves as a liquid, because it has scalar properties. A scalar grain structure will not have friction, as it scales away from friction. A scalar grain structure will behave a lot like water, but not bonded. I have worked on this for 9 years, so I have to reduce the post to a few hints. But I have thousands of pieces of evidence. I remember when I was using a hexagon structure years ago, and I was faced with the Octopus, and I knew why it had 8 legs, because the forces had squashed it in the middle like a Siamese twin. I figured that most of the forces must have been pushed into its head. Then two days later it was posted that the testicles of an Octopus are in its head. So you not only figure out nature, but you also start to know things that seem impossible to know. Quote
Urod Posted August 15, 2012 Author Report Posted August 15, 2012 (edited) 'oih['hyu Edited December 1, 2012 by Urod Quote
Pincho Paxton Posted August 15, 2012 Report Posted August 15, 2012 (edited) But sure enough you can reduce those hexagons to triangles ... You have to obey Newton's 3rd law that every action has an equal, and opposite reaction. The number 3 has an unequal amount of actions, and reactions. Also, there are not enough 3 limbed animals for the physics to be triangular. You can't use vectors either, because of the evidence in nature that everything has forces focused through a grain structure. The two slit experiment also shows the grain structure. I have simple rules, but they are only simple to a child with no prior knowledge of science. Science messes your head up too much for the simple rules to sound simple. Edited August 15, 2012 by Pincho Paxton Quote
Urod Posted August 17, 2012 Author Report Posted August 17, 2012 You have to obey Newton's 3rd law that every action has an equal, and opposite reaction. .... How does this conect to the Superfluid , I wonder . But more importantly , how does Volovik's SuperFluid impacted the Quantum/Relativity ? Could it be that the SF doesn't allow for a stretching or shrinking or distorting the Space ? Hence Gravity could not be a distortion of space ... Please join me in trying to make sense of Volovik wonderful conection , read his work here : http://arxiv.org/pdf/1004.0597.pdf Quote
Pincho Paxton Posted August 18, 2012 Report Posted August 18, 2012 (edited) Well, being as I already have differences in my theory, I'm not really interested in a theory that is opposite in some ways. I doubt that I could help you to understand the parts that he has missed out. Only Volovik can add to his own paper. Edited August 18, 2012 by Pincho Paxton Quote
Urod Posted August 18, 2012 Author Report Posted August 18, 2012 (edited) Well, being as I already have differences in my theory, I'm not really interested in a theory that is opposite in some ways. I doubt that I could help you to understand the parts that he has missed out. Only Volovik can add to his own paper. Before I'll respond to you , Pincho , let me bring in something of a curiosity and ask your oppinion even though is off-topic ( but I don't mind :) : here is a statement alleged to Albert Einstein " You can not solve a problem with the same mind that created it " . I say that the statement is proven false by all people , like myself , that play chess with themselves , and also by the known Learning Curve . But the ' kicker ' is this : Albert Einstein was religios , a Problem created by his mind ... Where else was he wrong ? Now , back to your reply , when the UPN theory finally 'clicked' into my mind I felt like you do , that even a ten year old can understand it ! You are absolutely correct , the present learning system forces ( by ' Authority ' ) onto the students theories that were not proven yet including that electrons are flying around a nucleus ( my UPN suggests they are attached and Gyrating ) . How can you expect to think out-of-the-box under those conditions specially since the only tools that scientists allow and accept to use in proving other theories are the tools of Quantum ?Keep in mind the bigger picture of Quantum , it is made of two parts : the Empiric Formulas ( a good thing ) and the Speculations trying to explain those formulas , speculations so far proven wrong by the recent discovery of a highly Organized Spiral galaxy located way out of where the Quantum allows ! So , formulas fairly good but their Explanation is off , that's the Quantum theory in a nut shell . Now you see why I try to engage the people that claim a better understanding of Quantum : I want them using their accepted quantum tools , as Volovik did , to show the rational/logic in terms that we all can understand , specially the break-through SuperFluid ! I am still waiting , no quantum 'specialist' made a comment or promisse to address this Super , Huge , Amazing , Gigantic Conclusion : that we all are a SuperFluid HENCE all can Only be what can happened in a fluid : Waves , Vortices and theis Harmonics , etc . Craig , are you there please ? Edited August 18, 2012 by Urod Quote
Urod Posted August 26, 2012 Author Report Posted August 26, 2012 (edited) Well, being as I already have differences in my theory, I'm not really interested in a theory that is opposite in some ways. I doubt that I could help you to understand the parts that he has missed out. Only Volovik can add to his own paper. I waited for others in this forum , the quantum specialists , to jump in and analyze what a SuperFluid Universe means , time's up . Quantum theory fatal flaw found already in 2011 , now Exposed Not too long ago a space telescope found an Organized spiral galaxy way out of where the Quantum's Big Bang would allow hence pointing to a fatal flaw in the theory : http://twittweb.com/hubble+space+telescope+-23390762 ' Hubble spots spiral galaxy that shouldn't exist ' Here is a second fatal flaw : Grigory Volovik's 2011 tremendous deductions and conclusion that we and the Universe are a SuperFluid by just using the empiric formulas which are part of the Quantum theory , has embedded in it the realization of another fatal Quantum Flaw : the misinterpretation of the Red Shift , hence defeating the 'expansion' of the Universe . Keep in mind the two general components of the Quantum theory : the experimentation/empirical derived Formulas ( the closest to Reality in this theory ) and the Speculations trying to explain those formulas and other observed phenomena . 1) Scientist Volovik observed density of this SuperFluid that makes the Universe , was 29 times less dense than water : http://arxiv.org/pdf/1004.0597.pdf “ .... The new aether has equation of state p = −ǫ; it is Lorentzinvariant; and as follows from the recent cosmological observations its energy density is about 10−29g/cm3 (i.e. the quantum aether by 29 orders magnitude lighter than water) and it is actually anti-gravitating .... “. It means that the SuperFluid has Some density as small as it may be but not zero , hence it will interfere with any other movement or source of energy including electromagnetic waves . As longer wave length have less energy compared with shorter waves length of same amplitude it is a certainty that after a few hundred million years of travel through this SuperFluid any waves will lose energy manifested in both amplitude and wave length . This means that the observed Red Shift it is not due to an Expansion of the Universe but just as an effect of the non-zero density of the Universe ( the SuperFluid that makes it ) , hence this is another fault with the Quantum/Relativity theory . 2) But why can't we still have an expansion of this SuperFluid/Universe ? The SuperFluid ( SF ) as thin as described it not only explains the Red Shift but it also nullifies the idea of an Expanding Universe , since the SF can not be 'stretched' or 'expanded' for ever before 'disappearing' or breaking down somehow , an action that it is illogical since Somethingness can not disappear . Of course , this raises the other conundrum , of How can you make something from nothing by 'expansion' unless the SuperFluid can be unravelled and 'stretched' for ever without changing appearance or properties , all a bunch of unfounded events and 'laws' . Where is the Logic ? Those conclusions also show a Third Effect , the reason why Volovik's deduction is not allover the News : it ( twice ) nullifies both the Quantum and Relativity theories , a big no-no apparently ... How long will the scientific community put up with the absurd speculations ( like the Big Bang or the 'Mass' particle ) of the Quantum/Relativity “ theories ” ?? Find the Logic Path to what the Universe really is in a simple way that you can troubleshoot and understand , the Unifying Property of Nature , UPN , where you can keep , for now , the empiric formulas but replace the theory : http://UPNtheory.WordPress.com Edited August 27, 2012 by Urod Quote
Urod Posted September 25, 2012 Author Report Posted September 25, 2012 Quantum theory fatal flaw found already in 2011 , now Exposed Not too long ago a space telescope found an Organized spiral galaxy way out of where the Quantum's Big Bang would allow hence pointing to a fatal flaw in the theory : http://twittweb.com/hubble+space+telescope+-23390762 ' Hubble spots spiral galaxy that shouldn't exist ' Here is a second fatal flaw : Grigory Volovik's 2011 tremendous deductions and conclusion that we and the Universe are a SuperFluid by just using the empiric formulas which are part of the Quantum theory , has embedded in it the realization of another fatal Quantum Flaw : the misinterpretation of the Red Shift , hence defeating the 'expansion' of the Universe . Keep in mind the two general components of the Quantum theory : the experimentation/empirical derived Formulas ( the closest to Reality in this theory ) and the Speculations trying to explain those formulas and other observed phenomena . 1) Scientist Volovik observed density of this SuperFluid that makes the Universe , was 29 times less dense than water : http://arxiv.org/pdf/1004.0597.pdf “ .... The new aether has equation of state p = −ǫ; it is Lorentzinvariant; and as follows from the recent cosmological observations its energy density is about 10−29g/cm3 (i.e. the quantum aether by 29 orders magnitude lighter than water) and it is actually anti-gravitating .... “. It means that the SuperFluid has Some density as small as it may be but not zero , hence it will interfere with any other movement or source of energy including electromagnetic waves . As longer wave length have less energy compared with shorter waves length of same amplitude it is a certainty that after a few hundred million years of travel through this SuperFluid any waves will lose energy manifested in both amplitude and wave length . This means that the observed Red Shift it is not due to an Expansion of the Universe but just as an effect of the non-zero density of the Universe ( the SuperFluid that makes it ) , hence this is another fault with the Quantum/Relativity theory . 2) But why can't we still have an expansion of this SuperFluid/Universe ? The SuperFluid ( SF ) as thin as described it not only explains the Red Shift but it also nullifies the idea of an Expanding Universe , since the SF can not be 'stretched' or 'expanded' for ever before 'disappearing' or breaking down somehow , an action that it is illogical since Somethingness can not disappear . Of course , this raises the other conundrum , of How can you make something from nothing by 'expansion' unless the SuperFluid can be unravelled and 'stretched' for ever without changing appearance or properties , all a bunch of unfounded events and 'laws' . Where is the Logic ? Find the Logic Path to what the Universe really is in a simple way that you can troubleshoot and understand , the Unifying Property of Nature , UPN , where you can keep , for now , the empiric formulas but replace the theory . Brought the above info again for easier reading because the evidence of a SuperFluid Universe is mounting hence it deserves our attention : As Volovik finds the Universe made of a SuperFluid and as the UPN shows that all matter is Vortices spining the SuperFluid , here is surprising more evidence : http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9106063158 Sliding Metals Show Fluidlike Behavior, New Clues to Wear Studies using a microscope and high-speed camera revealed the formation of bumps, folds, vortexlike features and cracks on the metal surface. The findings were surprising because the experiment was conducted at room temperature and the sliding conditions did not generate enough heat to soften the metal. "We see phenomena normally associated with fluids, not solids," said Srinivasan Chandrasekar, a Purdue University professor of industrial engineering who is working with postdoctoral research associates Narayan Sundaram and Yang Guo ... more ... Original article at Perdue University : http://www.purdue.edu/newsroom/releases/2012/Q3/sliding-metals-show-fluidlike-behavior,-new-clues-to-wear.html " ..... The researchers are developing models to further study the phenomena and understand the wide-ranging consequences of such fluidlike flow in metals, Chandrasekar said . " ... more .... The UPN theory , Quantum shocking , Nature at the foundation is Analog , a non-granular SuperFluid : http://UPNtheory.WordPress.com Quote
Eclogite Posted September 26, 2012 Report Posted September 26, 2012 The answer to the zen koan, what is the sound of one hand clapping, is a sad one in this instance. Yet, apparently, clap it must. Quote
Urod Posted September 26, 2012 Author Report Posted September 26, 2012 (edited) The answer to the zen koan, what is the sound of one hand clapping, is a sad one in this instance. Yet, apparently, clap it must. I don't understand why is ' sad ' , please explain , but nevertheless let's see if we can put those Two hands together for a thundering SuperFluid clapping enough to push science further : here is a list of official scientific experiments that all point to a Nature made of a liquid with all its traits like vortices , waves and harmonics , please add more articles if you find them : Example of Harmonics typical of fluids : http://esciencenews.com/articles/2012/06/07/all.colors.a.high.energy.rainbow.a.tightly.focused.beam " Just as a violin or guitar string will emit harmonics of its fundamental sound tone when plucked strongly, an atom can also emit harmonics of light when plucked violently by a laser pulse," adds Murnane. "The laser pulse first plucks electrons from the atoms, before driving them back again where they can collide with the atoms from which they came. Any excess energy is emitted as high-energy ultraviolet photons . " SuperFluids : http://meetings.aps.org/Meeting/MAR09/Event/98024 Abstract: T4.00004 : Quantum fluid dynamics and superfluid behaviour of polaritons in microcavities Author: Daniele Sanvitto (Universidad Autonoma Madrid) Achievement of polariton condensation in semiconductor microcavities [1,2] has opened the way to the study of new interesting phenomena related to the behaviour of non-equilibrium Bose particles in the quantum limit ........ One of the most striking effects of a moving polariton condensate is the observation of superfluid behaviour when crossing obstacles even at speeds only 100 times smaller than the speed of light [4]. " .... http://actu.epfl.ch/news/dynamics-of-spontaneous-quantum-vortices-in-polari/ Dynamics of Spontaneous Quantum Vortices in Polariton Superfluids The experimental investigation of spontaneously created vortices is of utmost importance for the understanding of quantum phase transitions towards a superfluid phase, especially for two-dimensional systems that are expected to be governed by the Berezinski-Kosterlitz-Thouless physics .... http://www.nature.com/nphys/journal/v8/n1/abs/nphys2128.html?lang=en?WT.ec_id=NPHYS-201201 Nature Physics | Letter Quantum phase transition to unconventional multi-orbital superfluidity in optical lattices Here, we report on the observation of a multi-orbital superfluid phase with a complex order parameter in binary spin mixtures. In this unconventional superfluid, the local phase angle of the complex order parameter is continuously twisted between neighbouring lattice sites. The nature of this twisted superfluid quantum phase is an interaction-induced admixture of the p-orbital contributions favoured by the graphene-like band structure of the hexagonal optical lattice used in the experiment. We observe a second-order quantum phase transition between the normal superfluid and the twisted superfluid phase, which is accompanied by a symmetry breaking in momentum space .... http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v455/n7215/abs/nature07334.html Nature 455, 948-951 (16 October 2008) | doi:10.1038/nature07334; Received 28 March 2008; Accepted 12 August 2008 Spontaneous vortices in the formation of Bose–Einstein condensates Chad N. Weiler Here we present an experimental and theoretical study of the BEC phase transition of a trapped atomic gas, in which we observe and statistically characterize the spontaneous formation of vortices during condensation http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Video_Reveals_Wave_Character_of_Particles_999.html Video Reveals Wave Character of Particles Karlsruhe, Germany (SPX) Mar 30, 2012 http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2010/quantum-mechanics-1020.html Can fluid dynamics offer insights into quantum mechanics? Experiments in which fluid droplets mimic the odd behavior of subatomic particles recall an abandoned interpretation of quantum mechanics. Larry Hardesty , MIT News Office Recently, Yves Couder, a physicist at Université Paris Diderot, has conducted a series of experiments in which millimeter-scale fluid droplets, bouncing up and down on a vibrated fluid bath, are guided by the waves that they themselves produce. In many respects, the droplets behave like quantum particles, and in a recent commentary in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, John Bush, an applied mathematician at MIT who specializes in fluid dynamics, suggests that experiments like Couder’s may ultimately shed light on some of the peculiarities of quantum mechanics .... As Volovik said , this SuperFluid is different than everithing we know , and I can hardly wait to see someone point in his formulas explanations to the following properties of this SuperFluid that the UPN has already deduced by using only Logic : - non-granular ( movement/pressure is distributed equally , plus an Analog quality ) - uncompressible/unstretchable ( certain types of vibrations should be traveling instanteniously )- perpetually and spontaneously self-mixing ( perpetual motion/energy generating property ) Can you think of other properties and consequences ? Edited September 26, 2012 by Urod Quote
Eclogite Posted September 26, 2012 Report Posted September 26, 2012 I find it sad to see someone worshipping a false god in a congregation of one. Quote
Urod Posted September 27, 2012 Author Report Posted September 27, 2012 I find it sad to see someone worshipping a false god in a congregation of one. Thank you , now I understand that you do not agree with Gregory Volovik's find . This is very easy to settle : Volovik presented his case , may I see yours please ? Please procede to quote the faults that you found with Volovik's presentation , and your arguments against , thank you ! Quote
Urod Posted September 30, 2012 Author Report Posted September 30, 2012 (edited) I find it sad to see someone worshipping a false god in a congregation of one. I am still looking forward to your substantuated criticism of Volovik's findings but for now here is something that I personally disagree with Volovik : the properties of this SuperFluid that makes up the Universe . Please take a look at this statement that in Volovik's presentation gives the SuperFluid a Variable Volume , a statement that implies the SuperFluid ( quantum vacuum as Volovik labels it ) can be streched or shrunk ( something that is opposite to the UPN description of the Universe SuperFluid ) : http://arxiv.org/pdf/1004.0597.pdf " ... Let us consider a large portion of such vacuum liquid under external pressure P [21]. The volume V of quantum vacuum is variable, but its total “charge” Q(t) ≡ R d3r q(r, t)must be conserved, dQ/dt = 0 ... " . ... and why "charge" is under quotations ? Are there more than one interpretations of "charge" , and if so , why not use the appropriate one instead of quotations ? But more importantly regarding Volovik's interpretation , if the foundation of the Universe , the SuperFluid or quantum vacuum as per Volovik , can increase or decrease its volume , what New space it could occupy when its volume increases ?? And when it shrinks , what space does it leave behind ?? You will not find those conundrums in the UPN ! P.S. : Eclogite , as you see ( and further if you would read my UPN ) I do not 'warship' Volovik , in contrary , I disagree with the way he describes the Universe SuperFluid ! But to observe this you must read the UPN first and see the diferences between Volovik's SuperFluid and mine in the UPN . Please do so in order to apply proper criticism , thank you ! Never the less , in any SuperFluid Universe all is still Only Waves , Vortices and their Harmonics ... Edited September 30, 2012 by Urod Quote
Urod Posted October 6, 2012 Author Report Posted October 6, 2012 In the opening of the UPN I stated the problem cosmology has which is due to luck of an Universal Reference Point . Here , to my amazement , we learn that scientists were able to measure the expansion of the Universe : http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9107110356 What system of reference did they use ? Our galaxy and the ones in vicinity ?? Is this the ' evolution ' of science from the Earth at the centre of the Universe ? Now we enlarge the concept to the galaxies that we can see , it's not an evolution . Volovik arrived to the conlusion that the foundation of the Universe , the SuperFluid , based on the empiric Quantum formulas , can change its Volume ! One of the finess of this conclusion is that an Universal Localised Reference Point belonging as a part of the foundation of the Universe ( the SuperFluid ) would CHANGE Location during a Volume variation UNLESS would reside Perfectly at the centre of the ( INFINITE ) Universe ! ... a great Contradiction that proves the faults within EVEN with the Empirically derived Quantum formulas . How can one , without drinking , state that in an Infinite Universe can Possibly be a Localized Universal Reference Point ?? Think very carefuly and remember this statement as your Proof and reassurance that you'll need considering scientists have no problem with the Bing Bang and a minute 14 billion years old Universe ! Yet an Universal common reference concept does exists , of a totally diferent nature that the mind would jump to at first , a Reference Point that is looking at the composition of the Universe from a totally different angle , that is truly Universal . See it without any math or formulas ( yet ) in the UPN : http://UPNtheory.WordPress.com , Quantum and Relativity shocking ! Quote
Urod Posted November 7, 2012 Author Report Posted November 7, 2012 While scientist Volovik found empirical formulas leading to the SuperFluid Universe here is an experimental observation from another scientist , Ballagh , that supports the UPN and its conclusion that particles are vortices spinning the SuperFluid and that those vortices can Spontaneously Assemble to form Structures ( particles and atoms ) , page 28 : " .... Vortex lattice mimics solidbody rotation . " .... and further : " ... • Vortices form a hexagonal lattice(Abrikosov lattice – known in superconductors and He II) . " ... http://www.acqao.org/workshops/2004_School_lectures/VortexLectureBallagh.pdf However , keep in mind that scientist Ballagh's experiments above uses Atomic superfluids that are granular hence those vortices will be somewhat different . The interesting aspect is that those difference are the ones that defines Atomic and Particle properties since they are all made of the same SuperFluid . Volovik gives us a hint about those properties of the Universe SuperFluid when in the opening lines he states to the effect that " .... this SuperFluid is different from all other substances we know ... " , so reading between the lines we can substratct all the Known substance/matter properties and see what is left . From what the UPN states and deduces , this Main difference is : a non-granular SuperFluid ( substance ) , a property that it is unseen in our world as per present instruments and theories . This difference together with the property deduces by UPN of a non-compressible SuperFluid that makes the Universe results in defining the fundamental Vortices occuring in this SuperFluid as Uniform in Density all across ( opposite of Granular/Atomic superfluids like in Ballagh's experiment ) . Instead of varying Density , what defines those fundamental Vortices is the Varying Speed at different locations in those fundamental vortices . Hence so far among many other goodies : - Volovik labels this fundamental SuperFluid that makes the Universe , as Different than all sbstances that we know - Ballagh experiments show spontaneus atomic Vortices Formation And association in Lattices - the UPN logically deduces that this SuperFluid is Un-compressible and Non-granular Now , take a break and ponder at the physical meanings of the Localized Differences in the 3-D SuperFluid volume/Universe as based only on the Speed of this SuperFluid at that location and nothing else . Quote
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