Non – Stop Engine

[thinhnghiem]

Dears,

I am investigating a way to make an engine that can run continuously. I do not declare that it is a perpetual motion. However, my result until now is so positive.

1. Tools and facilities:

- The main component of this model is a wooden toy with dragonfly shape. Its head is a rectangle which is curved upward, with long tail

- A sharp pillar with a steel marble stick at the head

2. Model

- The tail of dragonfly shaped specimen is put with a small weight to make sure this specimen settles down toward the tail.

- Then, touch the sharp peak of the rectangle head of the specimen very slightly into the marble so that it does not drop down

- The balance status of this dragonfly toy is very unstable. It is very easy to drop down as seen in attached screenshot

3. Operation:

- I put this model into an out of wind room to make sure no external force can influence my experiment.

- The movement of the dragonfly shaped specimen is the combination of slight staggering and swinging. This movement is remaining continuously.

- It seems that the gravity of the specimen pulls it down , while it touches by halves to the pillar. This is the cause of its continuous movement.

 

I post my article here so that any interesting individual can follow and replicate my experiments.

Due to the limited size of attached screenshot in our forums, I cannot show the details here. You can contact me by email: [email protected], I can say further there, with more specific screenshot

All of my expectation that you can contact me and replicate my experiment

 

Thinh from Vietnam

[JMJones0424]

This isn't strictly an engine as it doesn't convert energy into useful work.

 

I think, though you may have taken great care to isolate the balancing mechanism from air currents, that if you placed it in an evacuated chamber that was isolated from vibrations, you'd find that the toy would either reach equilibrium and balance without moving or fall off the rod.

[belovelife]

cool idea, do you have video of movement?

[Djames]

I post my article here so that any interesting individual can follow and replicate my experiments.

 

 

Hi Thinh,

Interesting post. Your machine reminds me of the one in Iron Man 2 .

[thinhnghiem]

This isn't strictly an engine as it doesn't convert energy into useful work.

 

I think, though you may have taken great care to isolate the balancing mechanism from air currents, that if you placed it in an evacuated chamber that was isolated from vibrations, you'd find that the toy would either reach equilibrium and balance without moving or fall off the rod.

 

Thank you so much for your feedback.

 

To say truthly, this experiment was done at my home, not in a laboratory, so it is impossible for me to make a vacuum environment.

 

I tried to isolate this room. All windows and doors were closed. Nobody was in this room, of course. I let my model overnight and went to sleep in another room. Next morning, I returned and found that it was still moving. I could let it days by days with the same result

[thinhnghiem]

cool idea, do you have video of movement?

 

The size of a video clip is so large, which exceeds the allowed limit for attachment in our forum. Can I send to you by email? If yes, send it to me by message

[thinhnghiem]

This isn't strictly an engine as it doesn't convert energy into useful work.

 

Let's think simply. is it possible to make a conductor with my model, and let it moving in magnetic field to create electric current?

[JMJones0424]

I don't know. All I've seen is a still shot of your contraption and a description given by you. Is it? Perhaps it would be more constructive for you to show as much?

[CraigD]

 

I post my article here so that any interesting individual can follow and replicate my experiments.

That looks like a better “balancing desk toy” than any I've seen for sale in gifts stores, such as this one:

 

Do you have a link to a store that sells them :QuestionM If I could get one, I could replicate your experiment, and have a nice-looking toy, too. :)

 

I’m pretty sure that it never stops moving because it has big enough surfaces and a low-enough friction bearing, that even a very small wind, undetectable to your bare skin, is enough to move it. It should be pretty easy to demonstrate this, by isolating it from even this small wind.

 

To say truthly, this experiment was done at my home, not in a laboratory, so it is impossible for me to make a vacuum environment.

You shouldn’t need a vacuum chamber to make it this toy stop moving. Just cover it with something fairly airtight, like a large, clear, plastic container, of a hand-made cardboard box with a small window, and place it on something reasonably vibration free, like a concrete (not a raised wood) floor.

 

Let's think simply. is it possible to make a conductor with my model, and let it moving in magnetic field to create electric current?

Too complicated, I think. Try isolating it from wind and vibration first.

 

Your machine reminds me of the one in Iron Man 2 .

That’s a very pretty desk toy. Like the youtube poster, I’d love to know where someone got one for US$90, as the lowes price I’ve seen for this “high quality, museum grade decorative art object” is $250.

 

This toy’s “never ending motion”, however, isn’t mysterious: it’s actually a reed-switch activated permanent and electro-magnet powered motor, which will keep moving until it discharges its 4 AA batteries, which its sellers (eg: ThinkGeek) say takes about 12 months.

 

Back in the 1990s, I was given a less expensive, similar, motion toy - this one:

, with slight color differences. After it discharged a couple of pairs of AAA batteries in less than 12 months, I converted it to plug-in, hooked it up to an run down, discarded desktop UPS, and kept it in continuous motion for nearly 7 years, ‘til it was accidentally unplugged by someone during a search for an extra outlet during a party – though I don’t think it would have lasted many more years, as its metal axles had nearly worn out their plastic supports by then.

[thinhnghiem]

I don't know. All I've seen is a still shot of your contraption and a description given by you. Is it? Perhaps it would be more constructive for you to show as much?

 

I have a clip, but it is more than 70 MB, too big to upload here. Couls any one of you can tell me how to show it to all of you? Thanks

[thinhnghiem]

That looks like a better “balancing desk toy” than any I've seen for sale in gifts stores, such as this one:

 

Do you have a link to a store that sells them :QuestionM If I could get one, I could replicate your experiment, and have a nice-looking toy, too. :)

 

I’m pretty sure that it never stops moving because it has big enough surfaces and a low-enough friction bearing, that even a very small wind, undetectable to your bare skin, is enough to move it. It should be pretty easy to demonstrate this, by isolating it from even this small wind.

 

 

You shouldn’t need a vacuum chamber to make it this toy stop moving. Just cover it with something fairly airtight, like a large, clear, plastic container, of a hand-made cardboard box with a small window, and place it on something reasonably vibration free, like a concrete (not a raised wood) floor.

 

 

Too complicated, I think. Try isolating it from wind and vibration first.

 

 

That’s a very pretty desk toy. Like the youtube poster, I’d love to know where someone got one for US$90, as the lowes price I’ve seen for this “high quality, museum grade decorative art object” is $250.

 

This toy’s “never ending motion”, however, isn’t mysterious: it’s actually a reed-switch activated permanent and electro-magnet powered motor, which will keep moving until it discharges its 4 AA batteries, which its sellers (eg: ThinkGeek) say takes about 12 months.

 

Back in the 1990s, I was given a less expensive, similar, motion toy - this one:

, with slight color differences. After it discharged a couple of pairs of AAA batteries in less than 12 months, I converted it to plug-in, hooked it up to an run down, discarded desktop UPS, and kept it in continuous motion for nearly 7 years, ‘til it was accidentally unplugged by someone during a search for an extra outlet during a party – though I don’t think it would have lasted many more years, as its metal axles had nearly worn out their plastic supports by then.

 

To CraigD: I bought this toy in the pavement on my way to office. Only half of USD, if you have a chance to travel to Vietnam, I will buy one for you (Do you know where Vietnam is :-) )

 

I will folow your instruction to verify my result tonight

[thinhnghiem]

To CraigD: Yesterday I applied more severe isolation for my room from air wind as your recoomnedation. Now the moving way changed. It began to lean toward its tail, then returned to balance states, and leaned to toward tail again, and so on. This time air wind cannot be blamed for its moving. I rhink the dragonfly gravity and its unstable balance caused this continuous moving

 

We are not living near each other, :-), so I cannot demonstrate to you physically. However I think you can buy similar shape toy at your town and replicate my experiment

[thinhnghiem]

Dears,

 

Few months ago I had chance to post topic here about a non stop engine model. Now it has been improved and works well, and I wold like to introduce my new model here.

 

 

1. Tools and facilities:

- The main component of this model is a wooden toy with dragonfly shape. Its head is a rectangle which is curved upward, with long tail

- A sharp pillar

- A medium sizes magnet (In attached screenshot it is the round and black piece)

- A tiny magnet

 

2. Model

- Stick the tiny magnet under the tail of dragonfly shaped specimen. The gravity of magnet makes this specimen settles down toward the tail.

- Then, touch the sharp peak of the rectangle head of the specimen very slightly into the top of the pillar. It makes the balance status of this dragonfly toy is very unstable. It is very easy to drop down as seen in attached screenshot

- Put the medium sized magnet at the base of the pillar so that its upward pole is the same as the downward pole of the tiny one (i.e. south to south, or north to north), and they are face to face as shown in attached screenshot

- Keep the whole system in an insolated room, with all doors and windows are closed to prevent air wing influence.

 

3. Operation:

- The attraction force between 2 magnets makes the tail of the specimen is pulled down slightly, before it is up again. Then a new period starts with the up and down movement of the specimen tail, again and again etc.

- The position of the medium sized magnet is adjustable so that it can give best result to the movement of the specimen. If the distance between magnets is so far, the force intensity is so weak to result in movement. Otherwise, the strong attraction force from the medium sized will also prevent the specimen from moving.

 

I let my model there overnight to make sure that there is no stopping. And luckily it does not stop until now.

 

I post my article here so that any interesting individual can follow and replicate my experiments.

 

All of my expectation that you can contact me and replicate my experiment

 

Thinh from Vietnam