Dimension

[pljames]

To me a dimension or plane is space without boundaries and is infinite. There's the material visible plane and the space invisible plane and might be others planes/dimensions within these dimensions. How is it possible for a person to go to and from these dimensions? Is there a door entrance exit are, are they infinite in there own way? pljames

[cal]

To me a dimension or plane is space without boundaries and is infinite.

False, let's look at specific dimensions. For example, the Third Dimension is limited to three planes, and the space contained within is also limited to the phenomena that the properties of the planes allow. What is meant by that is, without matter and other properties, space is very bound and never exceeds it's dimensional container. The container doesn't expand unless matter is introduced (unless you're working with something like eleven dimensional hyperspace, but that's a whole 'nother thing).

 

There's the material visible plane and the space invisible plane and might be others planes/dimensions within these dimensions.

Wutlol. You failed your physics course in high school didn't you? All the planes of reality are invisible. They're invisible because they're just mathematical concepts. What's visible comes about through the way matter and energy interact within the constructs of these dimensions, but not simply because the dimension itself exists. Also, you can't really have sub-dimensions the way you're describing it. There are dimensions that actuate other dimensions, but I don't think it's fair to say that the first dimension exists inside of the second. You can build one from the other, but you can also model universes without certain dimensions, so it's not necessary to say that they exist inside of each other.

 

How is it possible for a person to go to and from these dimensions?

Very Carefully.

 

Is there a door entrance exit are, are they infinite in there own way? pljames

No. And I could be wrong, but I think you meant to spell it, "their".

[sigurdV]

Whenever we think of dimensions we think of physical space and time... but there are other examples ... one easily overlooked is Harmony Space :)

 

Use the major scale as x and y axises and you have a two dimensional flat space... identify octaves and you have a sphere. The diagonal (cegbdfa: having the major chord as sense)) can be used as a third axis (if you dont use time)and we get a model of physical space? Music Spaces are not (to my knowledge) analyzed so there might be surprises for you waiting around the corner.

 

The subject got a good start with Pythagoras but then followed mostly dark ages...right?

Edited November 21, 2012 by sigurdV

[pljames]

False, let's look at specific dimensions. For example, the Third Dimension is limited to three planes, and the space contained within is also limited to the phenomena that the properties of the planes allow. What is meant by that is, without matter and other properties, space is very bound and never exceeds it's dimensional container. The container doesn't expand unless matter is introduced (unless you're working with something like eleven dimensional hyperspace, but that's a whole 'nother thing).

 

 

Wutlol. You failed your physics course in high school didn't you? All the planes of reality are invisible. They're invisible because they're just mathematical concepts. What's visible comes about through the way matter and energy interact within the constructs of these dimensions, but not simply because the dimension itself exists. Also, you can't really have sub-dimensions the way you're describing it. There are dimensions that actuate other dimensions, but I don't think it's fair to say that the first dimension exists inside of the second. You can build one from the other, but you can also model universes without certain dimensions, so it's not necessary to say that they exist inside of each other.

 

 

Very Carefully.

 

 

No. And I could be wrong, but I think you meant to spell it, "their".

Matt,

What came first the chicken or the egg? Did space come first then atoms or vice versa. To me there is infinite space with no boundaries. Within this infinite space is atoms and protons and such. There is water in a glass neither the glass or water or infinite but both are enclosed within itself. Then there's the outside of the glass. Could each of these things the glass the water and outside of the glass be dimensional with boundaries? Yes I failed science and every other subject as well. pljames

[CraigD]

To me a dimension or plane is space without boundaries and is infinite.

In math, a simple definition of the concept of dimension is a specific element of a n-tuple (the general form of single, double, triple, quadruple, etc). So, when we say an object is 3 dimensional, we mean the points that it can be considered to consist of can be expressed with 3 numbers (eg: (6,1,5), or generally, (x,y,z)), conventionally called length, width, and depth. An n-dimensional point can be expressed (x₁,...x_n)

 

In physics, the concept of dimension is sometimes the same as in math, with the addition that dimensions are typically divided into spatial (of which there are usually 3, sometimes more) and temporal (of which there is very rarely, and very weirdly, less or more than 1). Such points are typically called points in space-time.

 

In other contexts in physics, dimension refers to the kind of fundamental quantity an element in tuple represents. This use of the term dimension is commonly called dimensional analysis, and what it is applied to, physical quantities. In this context, the dimension of a spatial dimension is of length (L), of a temporal one, of time (T). There is at least one additional “basic” dimension, mass (M), and usually at least one more, charge (Q). Often, temperature is considered a dimension, though temperature can arguable be defined in terms of the other 3 basic dimensions, L, T, and M. Classical physics requires only these basic dimensions – other physics, such as quantum mechanics, may add additional ones.

 

Mystics, especially 19th century and later ones, and bad science fiction and fantasy writers, often use the term “dimension” to refer to 3 dimensional volumes displaced from one another by some amount of one or more dimensions other than the usual 3 spatial and 1 temporal, calling these volumes “parallel dimensions” or “parallel universes”. Such mysticism and bad SF is not, it goes without saying, scientific.

 

Some serious physics theories, such as brane cosmology, propose that our 3 non-compact spatial dimensioned universe is contained in space (meaning volume) of more than 3 dimensions known as “the bulk”. In these theories, there could be many “parallel brane universes”, ours being one. These parallel universes would interact very weakly or not at all, unless they “collided” in the brane. In these cases, dramatic events, such as a Big Bang beginning of a universe (that is, the beginning of a matter and energy filled universe like ours) occur.

 

A well known interpretation of a physical theory (that is, a way of understanding a theory, rather than a theory itself), the many worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics, also proposes a large number of parallel universes. These universes, however, are not separated by some distance in higher dimensional space, and can’t interact with one another.

 

There's the material visible plane and the space invisible plane and might be others planes/dimensions within these dimensions.

That doesn’t make sense in any scientific way I know. I think you’re using the terms in a non-scientific way, pljames.

 

How is it possible for a person to go to and from these dimensions? Is there a door entrance exit are, are they infinite in there own way?

If brane theory is correct, maybe it’s possible to move an object out of our brane, through the bulk, and into another. So far, however, there’s not been any experimental evidence that brane theory is correct.

 

There has been some serious scientific investigation of connecting distant points in the same or distant universes with traversable wormholes, in a doorway-like way, but theorists have only a very vague idea how to create such wormholes, or if they are even possible.