Cutting The Most Out Of Diseases.

[BrettNortje]

The most effective cheapest way to get rid of diseases in the world is to purify water supplies. this is so cheap, and, will result in great advances in well being. the state could build their own 'factory' and produce it for basically nothing, or, they could group together and buy in bulk, yes?

 

Then another great cheap remedy could be to make a penicillin factory department inside the medical factory.

 

How about a t.b. cure? i have already shown how t.b. is caused by irritation, so, when someone has this, they can ingest something moist, like ice cream? a lot of inflammatory diseases can be cured with simple mucous type cool things, but the cooler it is, the more it burns, so, things like milk could help.

[CraigD]

The most effective cheapest way to get rid of diseases in the world is to purify water supplies.

Brett, you need to follow hypography’s rules, and support this and other claims you make in this and other posts using links and references.

[BrettNortje]

Brett, you need to follow hypography’s rules, and support this and other claims you make in this and other posts using links and references.

 

Okay, in Zimbabwe, for example, we find much cholera;

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimbabwean_cholera_outbreak

 

The Zimbabwean cholera outbreak was a cholera epidemic that originated in Zimbabwe in August 2008, swept across the country^[6]and spread to Botswana, Mozambique, South Africa and Zambia.^[7][8] By 10 January 2010 there had been 98,741 reported cases and 4,293 deaths making it the deadliest African cholera outbreak since 1993.^[9][10] The Zimbabwean government declared the outbreak anational emergency and requested international aid.^[11] Although the epidemic was contained by late 2009, the poor condition of sanitation in Zimbabwe remains a matter of regional concern.^[12]

 

The water was impure.

Edited January 23, 2015 by BrettNortje

[Eclogite]

Okay, in Zimbabwe, for example, we find much cholera;

 

 

The water was impure.

All you have done is to demonstrate that in one country, at one time, one illness was the consequence of contaminated water. Plus, the problem there could have been dealt with by improving sanitation and thereby preventing the contamination in the first place. You have not demonstrated that "the most effective cheapest way to get rid of diseases in the world is to purify water supplies".

 

How will pure water prevent heart attacks? Deaths from cancer? Deaths from malaria? The list of diseases that will not be prevented by using pure water is not endless, but it is very long. This is not to say that there are not many deaths from impure water, but - once again - you have taken something that is true in some cases and claimed it is true in all cases. This reduces any credibility you may have.

 

Let's examine a couple of other points you make.

 

the state could build their own 'factory' and produce it for basically nothing

You cannot  build water purification plants for "basically nothing". When you make absurd statements like that anything of merit in your argument gets ignored. Let's say you do actually suceed in building the factory, you do not seem to have considered the distribution problem. Well? (And please don't say "Well, they could just send it to the people in trucks." I hope you can see that is a wholly inadequate answer.)

 

Then another great cheap remedy could be to make a penicillin factory department inside the medical factory.

Are you aware that many bacteria are now immune to penicillin? And have been for some time? You wish third world countries to invest their limited capital in building a factory to make an oudated medicine?

 

i have already shown how t.b. is caused by irritation

I'm sorry but this is laughable. You have found the answer that hundreds of thousands of medical practitioners and thousands of researchers have missed? Get real! This is such a mind numbingly foolish comment I am beginning to wonder if you are a troll. I hope not. And I hope you begin to put more thought into your posting in future.

[BrettNortje]

All you have done is to demonstrate that in one country, at one time, one illness was the consequence of contaminated water. Plus, the problem there could have been dealt with by improving sanitation and thereby preventing the contamination in the first place. You have not demonstrated that "the most effective cheapest way to get rid of diseases in the world is to purify water supplies".

 

How will pure water prevent heart attacks? Deaths from cancer? Deaths from malaria? The list of diseases that will not be prevented by using pure water is not endless, but it is very long. This is not to say that there are not many deaths from impure water, but - once again - you have taken something that is true in some cases and claimed it is true in all cases. This reduces any credibility you may have.

 

Let's examine a couple of other points you make.

 

You cannot  build water purification plants for "basically nothing". When you make absurd statements like that anything of merit in your argument gets ignored. Let's say you do actually suceed in building the factory, you do not seem to have considered the distribution problem. Well? (And please don't say "Well, they could just send it to the people in trucks." I hope you can see that is a wholly inadequate answer.)

 

Are you aware that many bacteria are now immune to penicillin? And have been for some time? You wish third world countries to invest their limited capital in building a factory to make an oudated medicine?

 

I'm sorry but this is laughable. You have found the answer that hundreds of thousands of medical practitioners and thousands of researchers have missed? Get real! This is such a mind numbingly foolish comment I am beginning to wonder if you are a troll. I hope not. And I hope you begin to put more thought into your posting in future.

 

Okay, how would you go about cutting a huge chunk out of disease in Africa, South America and Asia?

[Eclogite]

Start by identifying which diseases are the biggest killers.

Note what the most effective strategies for dealing with those diseases are.

Determine the most cost effective way of implementing those strategies.

Implement those strategies through the cooperation of the local government, first world government, international agencies, charities and other interested and contributing partners.

 

Oh, guess what. We are already doing that. Could it be done better? Of course, but quarter baked ideas, that ignore reality and contain massive factual errors will not help us do it better.

 

I applaud your concern for what is a very serious problem, but thinking you can come up with a solution with some casual thinking and a brief internet posting is probably offensive to those who have devoted their lives to dealing with these issues.

[BrettNortje]

Start by identifying which diseases are the biggest killers.

Note what the most effective strategies for dealing with those diseases are.

Determine the most cost effective way of implementing those strategies.

Implement those strategies through the cooperation of the local government, first world government, international agencies, charities and other interested and contributing partners.

 

Oh, guess what. We are already doing that. Could it be done better? Of course, but quarter baked ideas, that ignore reality and contain massive factual errors will not help us do it better.

 

I applaud your concern for what is a very serious problem, but thinking you can come up with a solution with some casual thinking and a brief internet posting is probably offensive to those who have devoted their lives to dealing with these issues.

 

Does someone, somewhere, benefit?

[Eclogite]

What? What did you not understand about my post? Of course someone benefits: the people such an integrated program is designed to benefit - the sick and the potentially sick.

[BrettNortje]

What? What did you not understand about my post? Of course someone benefits: the people such an integrated program is designed to benefit - the sick and the potentially sick.

 

How does you saying that help anybody?

[Eclogite]

It was designed to help you understand that your suggestions were fatuous, silly, ill-informed and pointless.

 

It was not designed to help solve the problem of disease control. I am not competent by education or experience to make any impact upon global health. Neither are you.

 

It is admirable that you would like to do something in this arena, but disturbing that you apparently think you can do something despite your deep ignorance of the subject.

[BrettNortje]

It was designed to help you understand that your suggestions were fatuous, silly, ill-informed and pointless.

 

It was not designed to help solve the problem of disease control. I am not competent by education or experience to make any impact upon global health. Neither are you.

 

It is admirable that you would like to do something in this arena, but disturbing that you apparently think you can do something despite your deep ignorance of the subject.

 

Okay, can you point out where i was wrong, as, i did say something?

[Eclogite]

I have already done so.

 

1. The most effective way of combatting diseases in the world is not to purify water. This will reduce the risk of many diseases, but will leave many more unaddressed.

2. Purifying water via a state constructed factory is not cheap.

3. States grouping together to buy water in bulk completely ignores the enormous cost of transporting that water.

4. A penicllin factory would be largely obsolete because of the many diseases that have developed, or have always had, a resistance to penicillin.

5. T.B is not caused by irritation. Ice cream will not help cure it.

 

In the fourth post in this thread, my first post, I have already made each of these points, except number three. Did you not bother to read the post? If you did read it, what about it did you not understand?