granpa Posted February 9, 2016 Report Posted February 9, 2016 19.4 earth masses of ice inside Saturn if density of metallic hydrogen = 2.2 g/cm^3The surface of the gas giant is defined as the point where the pressure of the atmosphere is 1 bar,Scale height = the vertical distance over which the density and pressure fall by a factor of 1/e.saturn Scale height: 59.5 kmjupiter Scale height: 27 kmhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frenkel_lineBelow the Frenkel line the fluids are "rigid" and "solid-like", whereas above it fluids are "soft" and "gas-like".(1-((1.326/2.2)^0.333)) * (76850km-270km) * (0.08g/cm^3) * 2.53 * (10m/s^2) * (1/((1.326/2.2)^0.333)) in bar = 284 638 bar (according to google) = pressure at which hydrogen becomes metallic inside Jupiter1.326 = density of Jupiter2.2 g/cm^3 = Metallic hydrogen density(1.326/2.2)^0.333) = radius of metallic hydrogen core = rmhc = 0.845*radius of Jupiter76,850km-270 km = polar radius of Jupiter - 10 scale heights = Frenkel line(1-((1.326/2.2)^0.333)) * (76,850km - 270km) = depth of liquid hydrogen = 11 881 km0.08 g/cm^2 = estimated density of 0.75 liquid hydrogen (0.071) + 0.25 liquid helium (0.125)2.53 * (10 m/s^2) = surface gravity of Jupiter1/((1.326/2.2)^0.333) accounts for increase of gravity with depth = (integral of 1/x^2 from surface to rmhc)/(integral of 1 from surface to rmhc) = 1/rmhcMass of Jupiter = 317.8 earth massesmass of Jupiters liquid hydrogen atmosphere = (0.08/1.326)*(1-0.845^3)*317.8 earth masses = 7.6 earth massesSaturn reaches 286,426 bar at 0.6 from center(1-0.6) * (54300km-595km) * (0.08g/cm^3) * (10m/s^2) * (1/0.6) in bar 286 426 bar54,300 km - 595 km = Saturn polar radius - 10 scale heights1 * (10 m/s^2) = surface gravity of Saturnmass of Saturns liquid hydrogen atmosphere = (0.08/0.6)*(1-0.6^3)*95.16 earth masses = 9.95 earth massesmass of Saturns metallic hydrogen core = (2.2/0.687)*(0.6^3)*95.16 = 65.8 earth massesmass of Saturns inner ice core = 95.16 - 65.8 - 9.95 = 19.4 earth massesThis makes sense because Neptune is 17 earth masses and is mostly ice And Uranus is 14.5 earth masses and is mostly ice Quote
granpa Posted February 9, 2016 Author Report Posted February 9, 2016 (edited) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volatiles In planetary science, volatiles are the group of chemical elements and chemical compounds with low boiling points that are associated with a planet's or moon's crust and/or atmosphere. Examples include nitrogen, water, carbon dioxide, ammonia, hydrogen, methane and sulfur dioxide. In astrogeology, these compounds, in their solid state, often comprise large proportions of the crusts of moons and dwarf planets.In contrast with volatiles, elements and compounds with high boiling points are known as refractory substances.[1]Planetary scientists often classify volatiles with exceptionally low melting points, such as hydrogen and helium, as gases (as in gas giant), while those volatiles with melting points above about 100 K are referred to as ices. The terms "gas" and "ice" in this context can apply to compounds that may be solids, liquids or gases. Thus, Jupiter and Saturn are referred to as "gas giants", and Uranus and Neptune are referred to as "ice giants", even though the vast majority of the "gas" and "ice" in their interiors is a hot, highly dense fluid that gets denser as the center of the planet is approached Edited February 9, 2016 by granpa Quote
granpa Posted February 9, 2016 Author Report Posted February 9, 2016 (edited) Saturn has a hot interior, reaching 11,700 °C at its core, and it radiates 2.5 times more energy into space than it receives from the Sun. I think hydrogen is dissolving in the metallic hydrogen and getting subducted down so deep it becomes metallic hydrogen.I think that explains the present-day luminosity of the planet Edited February 9, 2016 by granpa Quote
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