Could aliens be time-travelling humans from the future?

[johngetup]

hey i am from the other side of the world(India)

trying to give an explanation.

the nearest star to earth is 4.3 light years away and which has no planets with possible life. the nearest possible life to us is around 20 light years away(approx) this life might not have intelligence comparable to humans.

20 light years that is 20 * 365 * 24 * 60 * 60 * 300,000 kilometers away.

so its very impossible to travel this distance even in a span of thousand life times.

the nearest alien you might see are the Indians.

It impossible to migrate to the aliens world otherwise we had caused a migration problem for them too.

i think time travelling is just a myth. suppose that one travels back in time and kills his own forefather before he is born himself. this sounds logically incorrect.

well i am poor at logic.

 

Backward time travel with today's understanding of space time is most defiantly possible and plausible. Not only that, but we are close to constructing a machine in which subatomic particles will be sent back in time. However, to travel back before the machine was created is impossible with present theoretical technology. To achieve this we would need to use the power of a rotating black hole, and even then we may only travel back to the point the black hole was formed. Other theories do exists utilising a ring singularity of within some black holes (if they exists), but this would require us defining the laws of physics.

 

What all 5 parts of this...its really interesting.

 

documentry the first time machine - Google Videos

[BrianG]

I remember the Woody Allen bit where aliens visit Earth, not with a technology 10,000 years ahead of ours, but only five minutes ahead. Which is really annoying because they always get in line just ahead of us.

[lemit]

Ok, here is my theory: the aliens and extraterrestrials that we see on Earth are us in the future!

 

There's an axiom in comedy: you buy the premise, you buy the bit. What a wonderful premise! I know I've been wondering where all the aliens I see have come from. Here in Colorado, a lot of people insist the aliens are from Mexico.

 

This theory reminds me of a possible variation on the Cheech Marin film "Born In East L.A.": "Me? An alien? No, I'm just from the future!"

 

Thanks for reviving this thread. It's great stuff for a Friday afternoon.

 

--lemit

[neillambourne76]

The only reason why people have reoccuring images of the greys because everybody thanks to steven spielberg have been watching close encounters far too may times, has anyone not noticed that everytime someone who goes to see a specialist that they all come out with same image the same flying saucer etc etc, they couldve been watching too many x-files as well, while I do belive there are some intelligence out there, do they have to be greys all the time! In Earth there are different type of culters indians, black white asians etc etc, why can't there be the same aliens blue ones black ones and not child like like with black eyes etc, as for aliens coming back in time to check on us not so sure on that one and they may not have flying saucers, why can't it be an x-wing for a change! If there were aliens don't you think they have met us by now wether we can handle it or not and not just because we hqave reached warp drive! I also don't belive that there wasn't nothing before something, you create something without nothing it's just not possible wether it's based on time or not something had to cause the big bang that was there before wether it was a very tiny particle of matter or whetever it maybe I just disagree with scientists on that theory. Oh and there is no God and he certainly did not build or create the earth we know that now...

[neillambourne76]

Me again...

Ha you scientest's and Alien belivers etc, can't even answer the question... no-one can, I thought I would at least have made some sort of impact by saying there is no God, Aliens etc I thought there would have been some proof by now alas no the same boring questions still keep popping up, give me some real hard evidence that aliens, god and jesus etc all do exsits, don't you think that all theories could have been made up god and jesus was by 12 or 13 poeple who just got bored one day and wrote a book called the bible about a man called jesus who does simply not exsist. where is his grave tomb etc

It does get boring after a while, and you lot are too scared to answer why don't you all face up to fact that you and no-body on the planet earth really and I mean really know's what the hell is going on with our planet, space time aliens god and all that surrounds us we know the basics, but the real truth what is going on...

[lemit]

[What if]frogs had wings....

 

Following that premise of the OP that I referred to earlier, you should ask, "Since frogs have wings, why don't we see more flying frogs?"

 

--lemit

[Moontanman]

Neillambourne76, I will be the first in line to say no one knows, i am sure no one here will disagree. No one knows, no one can know, anyone who says they do know is a bullshit artist. Why would you say such a thing?

 

Lemit, flying frogs are common where you live? Our frogs always bust their *** when when they land :)

[lemit]

Lemit, flying frogs are common where you live? Our frogs always bust their *** when when they land :hihi:

 

You never heard of our flying mountain tree frogs? They descend the slopes by flying from one tree to the next. Of course, if they get too low, they get stomped to death by our Jackalopes. I'm sure you've heard of Jackalopes. I suspect that both the frogs and the Jackalopes are mutations from the future. But there are other theories. For example, The Jackalope Conspiracy.

 

Also, it has occurred to me that the Heaven's Gate people, from the evidence we have, succeeded, since their bodies were to have been left behind. So maybe they're coming back to earth for, I don't know, shopping?

 

--lemit

[snoopdogg]

Suppose that there is a total pool of knowledge that one civilization could acquire. Then put that pool on a rating system of 1-10. Us humans would have about .25 on the pool of knowledge scale. If you had even close to a 3 rating (meaning you have conquered faster than light travel), you would never have to abduct a human or visit earth... You would simply be able to analyze our species at a distance. Energy is the only thing that exist in the universe, so at a 3 rating you would never need to come here for energy... The closest star is about 4 light years away. Give it up people no aliens are here or need to be here... However life outside earth does exist EVERYWAER

[snoopdogg]

Yes Time is just like Space (actually it’s the same thing Space-Time). So it can be manipulated and yes time travel could be possible. However if you reach this level of knowledge you would have no need to travel through time, for everything in your environment could also be manipulated ( if you think it,, it will be). Stop dreaming through the big screen, think about it.

[timbot]

Hi Neillambourne76, thanks for your comments; I am not sure what exact question you want answered, if you clarify I can have a bash. On the re-occurrence of "greys" and "flying saucers" the interesting thing (I think) is that these pre-date "Close Encounters..." by at least 3000 years. I don't favour a strong alien theory (that aliens have been messing with humans for at least this long) which is why I was interested in the fact that babies perceive adults much as greys are depicted in popular culture. Perhaps these greys represent one of our first experiential memories?

 

Snoopdogg - I don't follow your argument at all. You have created an arbitrary scale of knowledge and then assigned "humans" and "aliens" to it along with supposed levels of development. Can you elaborate?

[snoopdogg]

It’s a simple argument. Over time any given civilization including ours will gradually gain more and more knowledge. I am saying at some point there is a total sum of knowledge that one civilization can gain, say 10 on the scale. I was not referring to humans and aliens in this argument, I was referring to civilization itself, wither it be human or alien does not matter. Now the knowledge that us humans have gained must be small on a scale of 1-10 We still fight wars, we rely on non-renewable energy, and we can not easily manipulate our environment. However once we gain more knowledge, the need for war and energy will be eliminated. So NO, we are not being visited from any aliens even if they are future human. There is simply no need for this to happen.

[Moontanman]

It’s a simple argument. Over time any given civilization including ours will gradually gain more and more knowledge. I am saying at some point there is a total sum of knowledge that one civilization can gain, say 10 on the scale. I was not referring to humans and aliens in this argument, I was referring to civilization itself, wither it be human or alien does not matter. Now the knowledge that us humans have gained must be small on a scale of 1-10 We still fight wars, we rely on non-renewable energy, and we can not easily manipulate our environment. However once we gain more knowledge, the need for war and energy will be eliminated. So NO, we are not being visited from any aliens even if they are future human. There is simply no need for this to happen.

 

There is no need to reconstruct dinosaurs but we do it. If indeed time travel is possible someone is going to go back and make sure they get to see what actually happened in the past. I don' think we could resist!

[snoopdogg]

Yes there is a need to reconstruct dinosaurs; we are trying to answer questions about our origins, precisely because our knowledge is limited. With more knowledge all of these questions will be eliminated. Yet even if we did decide to travel to the past, we would do it at a distance in a bubble, as not to interfere. NO WE ARE NOT BEING VISITED......

[lemit]

Why do those future people lurk around in the shadows, only revealing themselves to half-wits and charlatans? Do they have nothing to teach us? Are they themselves so dumb that they can't figure out to whom they should be giving their messages?

 

If they have that much technology and that little human intelligence, they pose a danger and should be shot on sight.

 

--lemit

 

p.s. I suppose it's possible they are here as time-tourists, pointing their bony little fingers and laughing. If so, I'm sure we don't disappoint.

[timbot]

It’s a simple argument. Over time any given civilization including ours will gradually gain more and more knowledge. I am saying at some point there is a total sum of knowledge that one civilization can gain, say 10 on the scale. I was not referring to humans and aliens in this argument, I was referring to civilization itself, wither it be human or alien does not matter. Now the knowledge that us humans have gained must be small on a scale of 1-10 We still fight wars, we rely on non-renewable energy, and we can not easily manipulate our environment. However once we gain more knowledge, the need for war and energy will be eliminated. So NO, we are not being visited from any aliens even if they are future human. There is simply no need for this to happen.

 

But the arbitrary part is where you say "the knowledge us humans have gained must be small on a scale of 1-10".

 

There is no way of proving this, it is mere conjecture. Nor is there any way of proving that more technologically advanced races do not fight wars and have access to high tech. So that argument doesn't lead anywhere.

 

However, that said, I do agree with you, as I said before, I don't think there are aliens coming to Earth and messing with humans before heading miles back to wherever the originated from to recount the tale. I do believe there is a phenomenon of human consciousness that causes people to perceive that events like this occur and further back through time that people believed they were abducted by the faeries, met ancient Gods and so on. The fact that babies may perceive their mother in a similar way to the depiction of grey aliens is an important clue I think that these experiences are psychological not extra-terrestial. Any thoughts?

[snoopdogg]

I could not agree more. It has to be psychological. We need to conjure up images of aliens, ghosts and gods, because we have to make since of our lives. I mean life makes no since. We all know at some point we are going to die. What a cruel joke this is. But my scale was not completely arbitrary or wrong. We can look to our own human civilization and analyze the rate at which our knowledge has increased. From this we can see that there is much knowledge to come.