The Earth Is Growing Up, Subvert Your World View

[xps13579]

And we all are not to alloweth you to useth the internet sayeth the Great Spaghetti Monster.

The earth makes mountain, soil, coal, oil with the same program, the purpose is not to let people use, in other words, they  don't care whether people use them, as mice exist not to be for cat to eat

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[Turtle]

The earth makes mountain, soil, coal, oil with the same program, the purpose is not to let people use, in other words, they  don't care whether people use them, as mice exist not to be for cat to eat

As trolls exist not to be for forums to entertain with cartoon snows. :weather_snowing:

[xps13579]

not considering the constant growth of the earth,  there will be no significant development of Earth Science

[Turtle]

not considering the constant growth of the earth,  there will be no significant development of Earth Science

The Loose Canon: A Really Important Collection of Words

 

 

6 teripie

6:1 Galliano shall go unto the mountain and there he shall beseech the Lord of All Semolina for thee Mighty Noodle shall be displeased with the people. 6:2 And the time shall come to pass when the cheese shall melt and the heavens shall rain a spirited liqueur that shall become the flow of Galliano. 6:3 Woe to the sinners who feast without carbohydrates. 6:4 Woe to the slackers who boil in the microwave. 6:5 And the city of the mighty apartment buildings that lay in the land close upon the shore of the watery water shall sink into despair. 6:6 And a great leader who is a false and not officially elected leader shall bring the people low. 6:7 Upon them shall be heaped flaming globs of marinara for which that shall be no pasta.

 

6:8 The sky shall grow heavy with the tears of the Pasta Lord as he beholds the sins of the carbo loaders. 6:9 For they have forgotten to grate their own cheeses and choose to buy the stuff in the green cans. 6:10 And this flaw of the lazy shall force the Great Linguini to cast them out of their land that was once wrought with many things.

[Moontanman]

not considering the constant growth of the earth,  there will be no significant development of Earth Science

 

 

As was stated in the video I suggested, the Earth can be measured down to millimeters, no growth is occurring. A few tons a year rain down from space in the form of meteors but this is insignificant to the total giga tons of the Earth. 

 

I must ask, exactly where do you think this extra mass is coming from? How could the Earth expand without mass? It is a conundrum, no trace of Expanding Earth can be measured and no source of mass can be shown to exist...

 

The ball is in your court, you made an assertion the Earth is expanding... show me...  

[Moontanman]

 The interpretation of previous studies on the formation of earth are basically non science, because it is not based on the logic analysis of features of today's the earth, but subjective imagination or a belief, the most popular opinion is that the earth 4 billion 600 million years ago by the loose material had gathered, this view is obviously a simple imagination, not science conclusion."

 

 

You really need to support this assertion... 

 

 

"If the earth were gradually gathered by loose matter, the surface of the earth would be very flat today, and there would be no mountains, and the composition of the earth's material would be even.So how did the earth come into being? We say that the earth has been growing up and the earth is a living body"

 

 

No, in fact both gravitational contraction not to mention radioactive decay provide the energy for tectonic activity, as dose the orbiting body of the moon and the tides it creates. In fact some have suggested an actual nuclear reactor made up of a body of uranium and thorium about 5 miles in diameter produce the heat in question. 

 

"Monitoring satellites have accumulated a great deal of evidence, and it is no doubt that the earth's radius increases by about 0.1-1 millimeters per year.and again look at the fact that the land is like many patches floating in the ocean, it is worth noting that the patches can be combined into a sphere with few slits, which can only be explained by the constant expansion of the earth and by using the theory of plate tectonics is not legitimate to explain."

 

 

Citation please I can find no science sources that support this claim. 

 

 

 

The theory of expansion is a higher order than the theory of plate, and the plate says that the phenomenon that can be explained by the theory of plate can completely be explained by the theory of expansion, and on the contrary, not the same.The drift is an image and actually it is a course of expansion- -- land is expanding, and the sea is also expanding, and lands looks separating,and the earth we see with a magnifying glass today is the actual Earth several years later.Like the land, seabed is not liquid, there are lofty mountains and steep hills, if sea water evaporates, the surface of the earth is just a rugged shell, sea area is merely lower, never because of water poured into the high will drift away.

 

 

 

This really makes no sense what so ever, you need to explain what you are saying here. 

　　

The study found that sixty million years ago there were many huge animals, not only huge dinosaurs, dragonflies as big as eagles, this shows that the gravity acceleration of the earth's surface in the past was smaller than today, otherwise animals would be crushed by their weigh.While the volume of the earth increases its mass also increases,the celestial bodies including the earth and the sun form through gradual growing rather than the accumulation of matter in existence after the big bang.

 

 

No, in fact a higher level of oxygen and thicker air easily account for the gigantism seen in the past. 

 

The celestial bodies, including the earth and the sun, have been forming gradually, rather than the accumulation of matter after the big bang. More and more scholars believe that the big bang theory is pseudo science of the world's largest and must be abandoned. As for the nebular doctrine, which is consistent with the big bang, both they think the stars formed by the gather of existing material, so the nebula doctrine is still wrong, and there is no evidence that the earth and the sun formed from the gather of nebula. New research shows that the temperature of the sun is getting higher and higher, and the brightness of the sun about 2 billion 700 million years ago is about 15/100 today，which is not explained by the Big Bang Theory. According to the big bang theory, the temperature of cosmic matter is gradually decreasing, the sun’s temperature should also be lowered rather than elevated without the exception.If the gravitational contraction causes the solar temperature to rise, then other celestial bodies also should be so, will certainly cause the temperature of the entire universe today is bigger than that after the big bang, when material had not been able to gather, so lead to the big bang theory cannot be consistent.The increase of mass of the sun or the earth is the direct cause of the increase of its temperature, which can be explained by mass-luminosity ratio.

 

 

So you have never heard of nuclear fusion? The sun is powered by nuclear fusion, this totally accounts for both its energy and slowly higher temps... 

 

 

　　

The possible mechanisms leading to the expansion of the earth are generally considered as follows: 1, thermal effects; 2, chemical changes or phase changes in the earth's interior; 3, the slow decrease of the gravitational constant. Although in the history of the earth, especially in the early Earth, there might exist pure growth of heat, thus there might exist a slight expansion of the earth as a whole, but the effect seems only can cause some deep trench, there can be no greater impact. Comparing the energy required for expansion with the energy available in the chemical bond, to estimate whether the chemical changes in the earth's interior or the phase transition can cause massive expansion of the earth, discovered that the energy the earth's radius expands uniformly to 20% to require is equal to the energy needed to break almost all the chemical bonds of the molecules that make up the earth.found. As a result, the chemical changes in the earth's interior matter do not produce enough energy to cause massive expansion of the continent. It is also impossible to explain the earth's radius to increase by 100km by estimating the energy obtained from the decrease of the gravitational constant.

 

Again, you are mistaken, radioactive decay is the source of energy from the center of the earth.. 

 

 

This constant expansion can only be explained by admitting that matter is continuously generated in the earth. The matter is continuously generated in the earth, the internal pressure is more and more big, the temperature is higher and higher, the accumulation goes to a certain extent, it will erupt forming earthquakes and so on, and thus establish a new balance, continue to occur again and again the earth is more and more big, the mountain of the surface rising, as the tree is bigger the skin is more deep grooves, formation phenomenon like tree rings is the symbol of the earth is growing. Stratigraphic phenomena like the rings of a tree is the symbol of earth's growth. Usually think the earthquake is the result of the impact of plates, the apparent lack energy of continuous occurrence, the earth has existed for billions of years, even if there exists occasional relative motion, soon it will be exhausted by friction, it is impossible that there seemed to be getting bigger plate impact. To put it back, even if there is an impact, it is also a manifestation of the inhomogeneity of the earth’s expansion, once leaving the expansion the impact will cease immediately. The phenomenon of Like attracts like on the earth, such as oil field, coal mine, mountains, plains, are the result of like causes like and can be explained by the theory of gather of galaxy formation. Oil and coal are also gradually generated and are being produced, but not the remains of ancient creatures, which can be explained by the inedible nature of oil. If coal is evolved from the ancient trees, so coal should be mixed with a lot of clods and stones, and in fact coal is quite clean. The moon is also growing gradually, and ring mountains on the moon are just the grown craters.The mass of celestial bodies increases from the work by negative pressure, dm +pdv=0, and meets energy law. The calculation shows that the radius of celestial body r is proportional to the cosmic scale factor, that is, r=kR(t), the mass change is dm=3Hmdt, and H is the Hubble parameter. In short, celestial growth is the local effect of space-time expansion, the universe create of spacetime with it creases matter, for example, the earth’s radius one year today increases 0.47 mm, weight increases one trillion and two hundred billion tons.

 

 

 

This is completely nonsensical, it makes no sense what so ever.. 

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[xps13579]

As was stated in the video I suggested, the Earth can be measured down to millimeters, no growth is occurring. A few tons a year rain down from space in the form of meteors but this is insignificant to the total giga tons of the Earth. 

 

I must ask, exactly where do you think this extra mass is coming from? How could the Earth expand without mass? It is a conundrum, no trace of Expanding Earth can be measured and no source of mass can be shown to exist...

 

The ball is in your court, you made an assertion the Earth is expanding... show me...  

the expansion of the earth is the local effect of spacetime expansion, expanding force overcomes the negative pressure to do work and makes the mass of celestial body increase and satisfy the first law of thermodinamics dm+Pdv=0 neglecting heat exchange between celestial bodies, about the details see the paper Modification of Field Equation and Return of Continuous Creation----- Galaxies Form from Gradual Growth Instead of Gather of Existent Matter

 Jian Liang YANG

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[Buffy]

Okay so I read your paper, and you've got a few modifications to Newtonian mechanics to make them conform to expansion, but you don't address ANY of the literature on Expansion which all states very clearly that expansion happens in the space in which the physical objects exist, not to the objects themselves. And the equations you do develop govern objects in space, again, not the objects themselves.

 

So it's no wonder there's no critique of your "concept" anywhere on the internet: you haven't shown or indicated anything, let alone proved it.

 

Just because you have a lot of words doesn't mean you're saying anything of substance.

 

I'll foolishly give you one more shot, but right now this is on it's way to the Silly Claims Forum.

 

 

What was the use of my having come from Oakland it was not natural to have come from there, :phones:

Buffy

[xps13579]

 

You really need to support this assertion... 

 

 

 

No, in fact both gravitational contraction not to mention radioactive decay provide the energy for tectonic activity, as dose the orbiting body of the moon and the tides it creates. In fact some have suggested an actual nuclear reactor made up of a body of uranium and thorium about 5 miles in diameter produce the heat in question. 

 

 

Citation please I can find no science sources that support this claim. 

 

 

 

 

 

This really makes no sense what so ever, you need to explain what you are saying here. 

　　

 

 

No, in fact a higher level of oxygen and thicker air easily account for the gigantism seen in the past. 

 

 

So you have never heard of nuclear fusion? The sun is powered by nuclear fusion, this totally accounts for both its energy and slowly higher temps... 

 

 

　　

Again, you are mistaken, radioactive decay is the source of energy from the center of the earth.. 

 

 

 

 

This is completely nonsensical, it makes no sense what so ever.. 

you are wrong completely. In fact, if there had not been continuous creation of the radioactive material,  the radiation had completed long ago because there was no  controllable mechanism. you must know that from the big bang on the material that form celestial bodies  already existed and burned, no matter how their combustion can not be more and more exuberant, that is to say, if there had not been continuous creation  the temperature of celestial bodies including the sun should be decreasing but not observed increase. about the expansion of the earth, see  W. B. Shen, R. Sun, W. Chen, et al. (2011) The expanding earth at present: evidence from temporal gravity field and space-geodetic data. Ann Geophysics, 54(4) (2011), pp.436-453

 

 Harutyunian, H.A., 1995, Some similarities of expansion phenomena in the vicinity of the Earth

     and in the Universe as a whole, Astrophysics, 38, 667

[2] Cooperstock, F. I., Faraoni, V., Vollick, D. N. (1998) The influence of the cosmological expansion on local systems. Astrophys. J. 1998, 503, doi: 10. 1086/305956

 

 

[3] Zhou Yao qi, Chen Hai Yun. Tidal rhythmites in Cambrian-Ordovician, North China and evolutionof orbital parameters.  Journal of Chinese University of Geosciences. VOL. 27 No.6 Nov. 2002.

[4] Iorio, L. An Empirical Explanation of the Anomalous Increases in the Astronomical Unit and the

    Lunar Eccentricity. Astron. J. 2011, 142, doi:10.1088/0004-6256/142/3/68

[5] Egyed, L., (1956) Determination of changes in the dimensions of the Earth from

     palaeogeographical data, Nature, 178, 534.

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[xps13579]

Okay so I read your paper, and you've got a few modifications to Newtonian mechanics to make them conform to expansion, but you don't address ANY of the literature on Expansion which all states very clearly that expansion happens in the space in which the physical objects exist, not to the objects themselves. And the equations you do develop govern objects in space, again, not the objects themselves.

 

So it's no wonder there's no critique of your "concept" anywhere on the internet: you haven't shown or indicated anything, let alone proved it.

 

Just because you have a lot of words doesn't mean you're saying anything of substance.

 

I'll foolishly give you one more shot, but right now this is on it's way to the Silly Claims Forum.

 

 

What was the use of my having come from Oakland it was not natural to have come from there, :phones:

Buffy

you are wrong. I don't try to modify Newton's theory but Einstein's field equation, I am sure you don't  read my paper to understand, in the paper all of the conclusions are discussed systematically and clearly

[Moontanman]

you are wrong completely. In fact, if there had not been continuous creation of the radioactive material,  the radiation had completed long ago because there was no  controllable mechanism. you must know that from the big bang on the material that form celestial bodies  already existed and burned, no matter how their combustion can not be more and more exuberant, that is to say, if there had not been continuous creation  the temperature of celestial bodies including the sun should be decreasing but not observed increase. about the expansion of the earth, see  W. B. Shen, R. Sun, W. Chen, et al. (2011) The expanding earth at present: evidence from temporal gravity field and space-geodetic data. Ann Geophysics, 54(4) (2011), pp.436-453

 

 Harutyunian, H.A., 1995, Some similarities of expansion phenomena in the vicinity of the Earth

     and in the Universe as a whole, Astrophysics, 38, 667

[2] Cooperstock, F. I., Faraoni, V., Vollick, D. N. (1998) The influence of the cosmological expansion on local systems. Astrophys. J. 1998, 503, doi: 10. 1086/305956

 

 

[3] Zhou Yao qi, Chen Hai Yun. Tidal rhythmites in Cambrian-Ordovician, North China and evolutionof orbital parameters.  Journal of Chinese University of Geosciences. VOL. 27 No.6 Nov. 2002.

[4] Iorio, L. An Empirical Explanation of the Anomalous Increases in the Astronomical Unit and the

    Lunar Eccentricity. Astron. J. 2011, 142, doi:10.1088/0004-6256/142/3/68

[5] Egyed, L., (1956) Determination of changes in the dimensions of the Earth from

     palaeogeographical data, Nature, 178, 534.

 

 

Your assertions of radio decay fly in the face of established science as does your assertion about fusion or lack there of in the sun. The papers you cite seem to have little to nothing either to do with your ideas or have any scientific support.. 

[billvon]

   

The expansion theory is more advanced than the plate theory, can explain more questions and phenomenons than plate plate tectonics. the current theory of the earth formation needs to be examined entirely

Tectonic plate theory has been around for more than 100 years.  Thousands of researchers have looked into it.  It is supported by research in geology, paleontology, physics, oceanography, seismology and vulcanology.  None have been able to disprove it, and indeed, there is a mountain of evidence that it is valid.

 

"Expansion theory" meanwhile is a theory by a crank with no scientific support.  No one has proposed a sane mechanism by which planets just "expand" - and every theory about it violates several physical laws.

[xps13579]

Your assertions of radio decay fly in the face of established science as does your assertion about fusion or lack there of in the sun. The papers you cite seem to have little to nothing either to do with your ideas or have any scientific support.. 

it kooks that you can not understand the most advanced theory, you may  go to sleep for your health.

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[xps13579]

Tectonic plate theory has been around for more than 100 years.  Thousands of researchers have looked into it.  It is supported by research in geology, paleontology, physics, oceanography, seismology and vulcanology.  None have been able to disprove it, and indeed, there is a mountain of evidence that it is valid.

 

"Expansion theory" meanwhile is a theory by a crank with no scientific support.  No one has proposed a sane mechanism by which planets just "expand" - and every theory about it violates several physical laws.

Geocentric lasted for thousands of years, but it is wrong after all and must be thrown away. Any law of physics is approximate,  the slow creation of matter should be allowed. We are not afraid of violating the laws of physics, as long as we do not violate the experiment

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[xps13579]

Your assertions of radio decay fly in the face of established science as does your assertion about fusion or lack there of in the sun. The papers you cite seem to have little to nothing either to do with your ideas or have any scientific support.. 

I am sure you don't understand my paper, it need cost about 20 days of you to read the paper,  obviously you read it  roughly to take such short time

[xps13579]

in a word, If people continue to not consider the earth's growth, earth science will not have any valuable progress

[Turtle]

in a word, If people continue to not consider the earth's growth, earth science will not have any valuable progress

 

Presuming it were true, what difference would a growing Earth make? What would it change for engineering, space travel, communication, or any other sort of real application?