Super Polymath Posted February 20, 2018 Report Posted February 20, 2018 (edited) There are se7en deadly sins. 1. Wrath2. Pride3. Sloth4. Greed 5. Lust6. Envy7. Gluttony If you can avoid committing any of these & maintain a fair & equally distributed amount of empathy for all others & yourself, you will live forever. Heaven is not a place. Hell is not a place. There is either utility or obsoletion. We are all apart of the same organism, the atoms that we're made of are connected to radiation in space like dominoes, pushing one atom will push the atom in front of it & pull the atom behind it - at the rate of quantum entanglement this will have an effect on radiation a trillion miles away in less than a nanosecond. Think about what other organisms are involved in our evolution that exist out there. The pattern of nature that is a planet exactly like earth, inhabited by a people that is exactly like us, repeats infinitely in nature. Go far enough & you will find that that the descendants of another human society that was once exactly like ours is now may have influence over our relatively primitive modern civilization. Edited February 20, 2018 by Super Polymath Quote
Vmedvil Posted February 20, 2018 Report Posted February 20, 2018 (edited) There are se7en deadly sins. 1. Wrath2. Pride3. Sloth4. Greed 5. Lust6. Envy7. Gluttony If you can avoid committing any of these & maintain a fair & equally distributed amount of empathy for all others & yourself, you will live forever. Heaven is not a place. Hell is not a place. There is either utility or obsoletion. We are all apart of the same organism, the atoms that we're made of are connected to radiation in space like dominoes, pushing one atom will push the atom in front of it & pull the atom behind it - at the rate of quantum entanglement this will have an effect on radiation a trillion miles away in less than a nanosecond. Think about what other organisms are involved in our evolution that exist out there. The pattern of nature that is a planet exactly like earth, inhabited by a people that is exactly like us, repeats infinitely in nature. Go far enough & you will find that that the descendants of another human society that was once exactly like ours is now may have influence over our relatively primitive modern civilization. Ya, I dunno if it works that way Polymath, otherwise you would think that all the "good" people killed by "Bad" people would survive things like bullet wounds to the head, but we see injustice every day as the wicked oppress the good. For Instance, If I were a monster and if were at a point of more Physical, Mental, and Social power than everyone else combined I could turn all citizens of the planet into a slave species and harvest their undamaged genetic material and organs to replace my decaying genetic material and organs despite the evil of that way of immortality, you would still have it and never die. It is a physical thing and not a morality thing whether good or evil the actions the laws of nature obeys as long as the process obeys nature's laws. Have you ever heard the axiom that "Life is not fair", well, the Universe has that policy too that it doesn't take sides, he who has the most Domination, which usually means Resources or control over it physically will win like a RTS Game. I can provide "Evil" schemes if you would like but I will leave it at this unless asked directly about this, but yes, it is not always the "Good" guys in power or have the power in a situation in this universe. Here is an example of this from a kid's TV show Dragon Ball Z as Freeza, a evil space overlord with hundreds to thousands of planets under his control and more physical power, blows up Goku's and Vegeta's home planet in the show being just a single species with one planet and less powerful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcGtUEHzk9s Some real examples would be the actions of Joseph Stalin or Adolf Hitler and having more domination over the physical world than their foes at that time, no one could stop them at that time despite the morality of their actions. Another Scary aspect of this is that no one that is truly "Evil" views their actions as "Evil" and they can justify their actions as necessary in that situation. Even if their actions are truly "Evil" in the view of their peers it is a unfortunate truth that the winners or those with more "Power" write the history books making their actions justified as people are taught that their actions were justified and the actions gradually grow to acceptable behavior, but only if they can always stay in "Power" there is always the possibly a more powerful entity will defeat them, of course, with a different morality construction than them or he or she. Here is a interview with a serial killer to bring the psychology of "Monsters" or Morally Corrupted to prespective. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQNwjEkszvg Edited February 20, 2018 by Vmedvil Quote
Maine farmer Posted February 20, 2018 Report Posted February 20, 2018 Some real examples would be the actions of Joseph Stalin or Adolf Hitler and having more domination over the physical world than their foes at that time, no one could stop them at that time despite the morality of their actions. Another Scary aspect of this is that no one that is truly "Evil" views their actions as "Evil" and they can justify their actions as necessary in that situation. Even if their actions are truly "Evil" in the view of their peers it is a unfortunate truth that the winners or those with more "Power" write the history books making their actions justified as people are taught that their actions were justified and the actions gradually grow to acceptable behavior, but only if they can always stay in "Power" there is always the possibly a more powerful entity will defeat them, of course, with a different morality construction than them or he or she. Here is a interview with a serial killer to bring the psychology of "Monsters" or Morally Corrupted to prespective. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQNwjEkszvgWait a minute, did either of those two have particularly long lives? Quote
Vmedvil Posted February 20, 2018 Report Posted February 20, 2018 (edited) Wait a minute, did either of those two have particularly long lives?Stalin died at age 74 of a massive stroke in bed the next day after the stroke and Hitler Shot himself at age 56 rather then be taken alive by the Allies. So pretty average lifespans. Edited February 20, 2018 by Vmedvil Quote
Super Polymath Posted February 22, 2018 Author Report Posted February 22, 2018 Here's some factual, cinematic, & sci fi food for thought that could be made to relate to my topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYS3J7hvCus Quote
Vmedvil Posted February 23, 2018 Report Posted February 23, 2018 (edited) Um, Polymath..........ya, I do not pretend to be a expert in the subject you have just dove down but there is always something that matters beyond all of that Survival and sometimes to that end cold and calculated decisions need to be made. Whether right or wrong, the actions produced. In a Sword fight to the death against a foe would you cut off your own arm to defeat someone trying to kill you, if that were the only way to win? Would you slaughter legions of evil people that oppress others so that a few good and innocent people could survive? See how the lines of morality become blurred in some situations? Right and Wrong is not always so cut and dry. You like Star Trek right? , Watch the Episode "Deep Space Nine : In the Pale Moonlight" which shows a realish type morality calculation when the stakes are high in value. http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/In_the_Pale_Moonlight_(episode) When all the chips are on the table, it shows the real character of people, when morality in that situation is everything but cut and dry. Sometimes the decision is wrong that you make in that situation. Other times it was the right decision in that situation. But do remember you do have to live with the effects of that decision despite what it seemed at the time. As for women and men too in a sexual/relationship context....... They all have their own beauty in different ways, I totally agree. As there are a thousands of versions of love as too are there thousands of versions of beauty. Edited February 23, 2018 by Vmedvil Quote
Vmedvil Posted February 23, 2018 Report Posted February 23, 2018 (edited) As for me, I once saw a philosophy I liked about this sort of morality and stick to it, "Aku Soku Zan" (悪 即 斬) Which translates to "Slay Evil Immediately" , If I deem what you have done as "Truly Evil" you will feel the full and unrestricted power of my wrath upon you without mercy, which requires you do make a very bad decision for it to be deemed as "Truly Evil", which goes beyond any minor transgressions that could be said to be "Slightly Evil Actions". This concept was taken from a fictional character named Hajime Saito , who is part of the secret police for the Japanese government in the a kid's show Rurouni Kenshin. Ask anyone that has played a RTS game with me, Academician Victor Medvil will exterminate you, if you really anger him by doing something he deems as truly wrong (in an unaltered state of mind with his memory in tact and not a mindless slave.... Don't ask what this scenario is about in the side lines you don't want to know how monstrous some people can be or are suspected to be "Mind Control Devices and Psychological reconditioning/reconfiguration",Yes, like the Borg Collective in Star Trek I have fought people who did stuff like that in RTS games which i feel people may try in real life at some point, continuing on). This usually means the usage of Weapons of Mass Destruction or Super-weapons on them in that setting for doing the "Truly Evil Action". This idea was taken from another Fictional Character Academician Prokhor Zakharov in the Civilization game Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri from the 90s, he was the scientist faction leader in that game, who seemed to get his way when using them on other factions. they do see the fallacy of their ways after things like that, usually. Which are found Guilty without trial under the "Writ of Attainder" and "Ex Post Facto Laws" issued at that point nullifying their human rights,(Which are highly illegal in real life), The Punishment is always the same Extermination of all living creatures, by any means necessary or available, that are found guilty by this method before beginning this process, by something I coined in RTS games as "Doctrine:Extermination". In any case, more personal views on ethics when it comes to high stakes and how cold and calculated decisions can get. Edited February 23, 2018 by Vmedvil Quote
Super Polymath Posted February 23, 2018 Author Report Posted February 23, 2018 As for me, I once saw a philosophy I liked about this sort of morality and stick to it, "Aku Soku Zan" (悪 即 斬) Which translates to "Slay Evil Immediately" , If I deem what you have done as "Truly Evil" you will feel the full and unrestricted power of my wrath upon you without mercy, which requires you do make a very bad decision for it to be deemed as "Truly Evil", which goes beyond any minor transgressions that could be said to be "Slightly Evil Actions". This concept was taken from a fictional character named Hajime Saito , who is part of the secret police for the Japanese government in the a kid's show Rurouni Kenshin. Ask anyone that has played a RTS game with me, Academician Victor Medvil will exterminate you, if you really anger him by doing something he deems as truly wrong (in an unaltered state of mind with his memory in tact and not a mindless slave.... Don't ask what this scenario is about in the side lines you don't want to know how monstrous some people can be or are suspected to be "Mind Control Devices and Psychological reconditioning/reconfiguration",Yes, like the Borg Collective in Star Trek I have fought people who did stuff like that in RTS games which i feel people may try in real life at some point, continuing on). This usually means the usage of Weapons of Mass Destruction or Super-weapons on them in that setting for doing the "Truly Evil Action". This idea was taken from another Fictional Character Academician Prokhor Zakharov in the Civilization game Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri from the 90s, he was the scientist faction leader in that game, who seemed to get his way when using them on other factions. they do see the fallacy of their ways after things like that, usually. Which are found Guilty without trial under the "Writ of Attainder" and "Ex Post Facto Laws" issued at that point nullifying their human rights,(Which are highly illegal in real life), The Punishment is always the same Extermination of all living creatures, by any means necessary or available, that are found guilty by this method before beginning this process, by something I coined in RTS games as "Doctrine:Extermination". In any case, more personal views on ethics when it comes to high stakes and how cold and calculated decisions can get. Careful, wrath is a sin. Omega is the ultimate authority, not you or I. It decides who ages & who doesn't, if you've deemed what I've done unredeemable you won't survive your own wrath, I will patiently outlive you genetically adapting to your methods through Omega. Quote
Super Polymath Posted February 23, 2018 Author Report Posted February 23, 2018 (edited) Omega guides evolution, the laws of man are flawed, Omega is perfect. The constructs of Judeo-Christianity, God (The Father, Son, & the Holy Ghost), are to Omega as Zeus, Poseidon, & the Greek/pre-Constantine Roman Pantheon are to God. This is because Omega can be defined (Albeit futurism & ADS/Conformal GW Theory) with scientific objectivity. Edited February 23, 2018 by Super Polymath Quote
Vmedvil Posted February 23, 2018 Report Posted February 23, 2018 Omega guides evolution, the laws of man are flawed, Omega is perfect. The constructs of Judeo-Christianity, God (The Father, Son, & the Holy Ghost), are to Omega as Zeus, Poseidon, & the Greek/pre-Constantine Roman Pantheon are to God. This is because Omega can be defined (Albeit futurism & ADS/Conformal GW Theory) with scientific objectivity. You know what this has ceased to be science at this point, but philosophy believe whatever you would like. It is not my place to tell you what to believe just how stuff works. Later! Quote
Vmedvil Posted February 23, 2018 Report Posted February 23, 2018 (edited) Ya, its some brutal stuff huh? War..... Later. Edited February 23, 2018 by Vmedvil Quote
Super Polymath Posted February 23, 2018 Author Report Posted February 23, 2018 I'm adapted to thriving in all kinds of warfare, psychological, legal, political, tactical, physical, I can think like high society, I can become high society, I can change the way people think because can empathize & put myself in their shoes, & understand them. Would you like for me to school you? Quote
Super Polymath Posted February 23, 2018 Author Report Posted February 23, 2018 In the scene prior to this Ivar portrays remorse for his actions so that his soldiers would see him as human & empathetic & thus more fit to lead than his ally. https://youtube.com/watch?v=T91DcDtNtds Quote
Vmedvil Posted February 23, 2018 Report Posted February 23, 2018 (edited) In the scene prior to this Ivar portrays remorse for his actions so that his soldiers would see him as human & empathetic & thus more fit to lead than his ally. https://youtube.com/watch?v=T91DcDtNtds No, dude I have fought all through out time, in video games, I get it. My warlock 10 years ago. Edited February 23, 2018 by Vmedvil Quote
Super Polymath Posted February 23, 2018 Author Report Posted February 23, 2018 The global moral authority of the Vatican, who have preached the value of the common life yet practiced sin & greed behind the facade, is fast coming to an end. As is the partially fake scientific authority used to "educate" us in how are bodies were designed, chemistry, the underlying physics regarding the limitations of fusion, urban design & electrical power, are all about to end as the truth that has been suppressed comes to light. Quote
Super Polymath Posted February 23, 2018 Author Report Posted February 23, 2018 (edited) The police will be forced to stop acting like the gestapo in red states. This whole neo-nazi thing, people even around here will know who's behind it. Edited February 23, 2018 by Super Polymath Quote
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