Tormod Posted July 12, 2005 Report Posted July 12, 2005 For the first time since the 1970s, a NASA spacecraft will get clear pictures of Apollo relics on the Moon. "In 2008 NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter will carry a powerful modern camera into low orbit over the Moon's surface. Its primary mission is not to photograph old Apollo landing sites, but it will photograph them, many times, providing the first recognizable images of Apollo relics since 1972." http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2005/11jul_lroc.htm?list149261 I look forward to seeing how the hoaxsters will respond to this... ;) Quote
Queso Posted July 12, 2005 Report Posted July 12, 2005 i would love if they actually went to all of the trouble of launching landing debri into the moon to make it look like the apollo missions were real. i am still so confused, and stuck in the middle when it comes to believing it or not. there are so many things that say it's wrong, but then how could it be? i'll have to see these pictures for sure.. Quote
Turtle Posted July 12, 2005 Report Posted July 12, 2005 ___New data on Earth's favorite neighbor is welcome news to me. I played the video of the Lunar take off in the link you give; twice. Well written articl. Quote
Boerseun Posted July 12, 2005 Report Posted July 12, 2005 I look forward to seeing how the hoaxsters will respond to this... ;)...Did anybody check wether NASA signed any rental contracts for a Hollywood studio recently? Imagine - a small landing site built with dinky-toys in a large warehouse full of cement powder, craters carefully sculpted strewn over the floor, and a camera suspended on a cable taking "real live footage" as it crosses the warehouse in its "orbit". If they zoom in close enough to the lander's relics, they'll see "Mattel" printed on the side next to the micrometeorite-pitted US flag. Or even a radical Al Qaida astronaut trying to set fire to the US flag in the vacuum. If the flag burns, its a studio. Hoaxsters - gotta love 'em. Quote
BlameTheEx Posted July 12, 2005 Report Posted July 12, 2005 Boerseun Don't be too sure - if the Americans can make an american flag that flies with no air perhaps Al Qada can make one that burns. Anyway I am going to lobby for NASA to send a committee of sceptics with the orbiter to check that there is no cheating. Lol. Quote
Harzburgite Posted July 12, 2005 Report Posted July 12, 2005 Anyway I am going to lobby for NASA to send a committee of sceptics with the orbiter to check that there is no cheating.I don't believe they will be real sceptics. They will be actors hired by NASA to play the part of sceptics. ;) Quote
saidevo Posted August 21, 2006 Report Posted August 21, 2006 Seems that the missing NASA moon landing tapes are back in the news since the beginning of this month. And since the publication of Dan Brown's novels, you do have an idea about the "capability" of NASA and other US research centers in actual and make-believe scientific research. Did man really land on the moon or not? Why doesn't NASA come out clean even after all these years? It is widely opined that it is not possible to cross the Van Allen radiation belt, using a spacecraft as it would take several inches of lead shell to protect an astronaut from a dealy dose of radiation from the van allen radiation belt, that the space capsules were made of very thin metal, so radiiation would just pass right through it. What exactly is this radiation belt and where is it? Wikipedia has run an elaborate discussion on this subject. It seems that the issue is not settled yet. What is the opinion of the forum members on the arguments for and against the issue? Quote
TheFaithfulStone Posted August 24, 2006 Report Posted August 24, 2006 It is widely opined that it is not possible to cross the Van Allen radiation belt, using a spacecraft as it would take several inches of lead shell to protect an astronaut from a dealy dose of radiation from the van allen radiation belt, that the space capsules were made of very thin metal, so radiiation would just pass right through it. What exactly is this radiation belt and where is it? It is widely opined by people who don't know any better. Even if you were parked in the belt with only 3mm of sheilding, you'd get about about 25 Sv a year (which is a LOT) but if you just travel through it for a few days, and if you time it so you're not traveling through it when it's especially hot (as they did during Appollo) then you only get about 20 mSv - about what XRay techs takes in a year. And since the publication of Dan Brown's novels, you do have an idea about the "capability" of NASA and other US research centers in actual and make-believe scientific research. If it's in Dan Brown, it's make believe. Don't trust the man for science. TFS Quote
Mercedes Benzene Posted August 24, 2006 Report Posted August 24, 2006 Why do so many people think that the Apollo missions were a hoax??? Quote
Tormod Posted August 24, 2006 Author Report Posted August 24, 2006 ...since the publication of Dan Brown's novels, you do have an idea about the "capability" of NASA and other US research centers in actual and make-believe scientific research.... Man, you really use reliable sources. :hihi: Did man really land on the moon or not? Why doesn't NASA come out clean even after all these years? And with "come clean" you mean...? Quote
eric l Posted August 24, 2006 Report Posted August 24, 2006 Why do so many people think that the Apollo missions were a hoax??? Maybe because there was not enough mistery about them, while on the other hand these people do not realize what leaps in technology it took to make such things as rendez-vous in orbit possible. Quote
Stargazer Posted August 24, 2006 Report Posted August 24, 2006 There is no reason to believe it was all a hoax. The problem is that some people know how to fool other people. Some of them convince others that everything was created by a god. Others focus on bending spoons. Some hoax creators actually came up with the idea to fool people that the moon landings never happened. It's utterly strange that this idea came up at all. I mean, why would anyone have reason to believe that others would fall for it? There is money and power in creating a lie, but personally I could never have thought of the possibility of fooling people to believe it was all a hoax. Why? Simply because we know it happened. Quote
Eclogite Posted August 27, 2006 Report Posted August 27, 2006 I look forward to seeing how the hoaxsters will respond to this... :hihi:The capacity for almost infinite self delusion is one of mankind's most endearing qualities. [Author's note: irony in use. Proceed with caution.] Those who claim the landings were a hoax will make the following observations:1) With modern cgi/sfx it will be very easy to create a false suite of photographs of the landing sites.2) Why has it taken till the present day for NASA to respond to the public clamour for information?3) Why is the work to be delayed till 2008, if not to allow time to create the fakes?4) Why will NASA not address the obvious fakery in the moon landing films and pictures today? Why embark on this expensive and uncessary program of further fakery?5) Why are we not turning the giant telescopes on Earth to examine the sites? (And while we are at it, why are all the observatories on the planet operating under government control?) In short, regardless of how much evidence is produced to support the reality of the moon landings, people who don't believe they occured will continue to believe they did not occur. All hail the eternal power of stupidity.:hihi: Boerseun 1 Quote
TheBigDog Posted August 27, 2006 Report Posted August 27, 2006 The crew of the Prophesy already visited those sites several weeks ago. It was great. Pyrotex, Jay-Qu and I were all there. Did we fake that too? Bill Quote
TheFaithfulStone Posted August 27, 2006 Report Posted August 27, 2006 Besides, when was the last time the Government kept any secret, secret? TFS Quote
Boerseun Posted August 28, 2006 Report Posted August 28, 2006 The crew of the Prophesy already visited those sites several weeks ago. It was great. Pyrotex, Jay-Qu and I were all there. Did we fake that too?It's all a lie. If you look closely at the Prophesy's fuselage, you'll see a thin stripe running from the front to the back. This is a hallmark of plastic injection molding. There is no way a spaceship will be built using plastic injection molding techniques. Stop lying to us. We want the TRUTH. Quote
Tormod Posted August 28, 2006 Author Report Posted August 28, 2006 Stop lying to us. It's not them anymore. They all died from 2 seconds of exposure to the Van Allen belt. And anyway their spaceship can't fly because it has certain (secret! it's kept under wraps! I know TBD has a fax from Jay-qu about this!) shortcomings that should be obvious to anyone but they are not talking about it. So they never left. In fact, I think the "Prophesy" may be an alien artefact and it is being used to study alien technology. The TRUTH is that is is all a LIE. Quote
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