HouseKnight1 Posted April 24, 2018 Report Posted April 24, 2018 (edited) 1.Natalie Portman explained to the entire world her «skip» of the ceremony of handing her Israeli award Genesis: https://twitter.com/search?q=%22Natalie%20Portman%22&src=tren In fact, She gave as many as three explanations. Firstly, because of the Israeli representative criticized her attitude towards the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Actually, this is not a reason. If Natalie has the right to criticize the government and the people of Israel for allegedly misconduct against the Palestinians, why does not the representative of the Israeli government have the right to criticize Natalie? The second reason is the «wrong» behavior of the IDF in the current theatrical performance on the Gaza border. Yes, this time, Hamas invented a new, original way of propaganda war against Israel, throwing thousands of unarmed fighters into battle. I agree that this method has created serious problems for us, especially in the light of the worldwide campaign to de-legitimize Israel. But this does not mean that we must raise our hands and surrender to the mercy of the Hamas winner. The fact that Natalie Portman concluded so quickly against the IDF, against the people of Israel and its government, reveals the original prejudice of the actress. It turns out that we have no right to prevent the forcible entry of Hamas foreigners into the territory of Israel. Supporters of the Palestinians have long recognized Palestine as a separate independent state, and at the same time insist on the right of the Palestinians to freely “return” to Israel, not being Israeli citizens. Hence the vicious propaganda about the «wall of apartheid» and other measures to prevent the violent penetration of Palestinians into Israel. Allegedly, we are using the wrong methods to deter the Palestinians. This last question about methods is at least controversial. The fact that actress Portman decided to boycott us means that practically she supports the frankly anti-Semitic BDS, which demands the liquidation the Jewish state. And finally, the third reason: Natalie did not want to meet with Benjamin Netanyahu, who was supposed to be present at the award ceremony. Frankly, I refrained from expressing my opinion about the person and the investigations against Netanyahu. I’m waiting for the results of these investigations. But life does not wait, problems continue, Israel needs an acting head of government, so I decided not to postpone any more and to speak on this issue. Regardless of the results of the investigation, and even of the verdict of a possible law court, Binyamin Netanyahu is the legally elected prime minister of Israel. While his guilt is not proved, (and possibly it will not be approved), Natalie does not have the moral right to boycott him, since by such boycott she shows her disrespect to the most of Israelis. All election polls approve, that Netanyahu may win possible elections. A big question is about the motives of Natali. Involuntarily we compare Israeli developments with that civil war, which USA democrats arranged to the lawfully elected US president, Donald Trump. It seems that the campaign against Netanyahu is also a civil war, just like a campaign against Trump. And, similar key role play the media. In such a circumstances, I am forced to speak on the issue of the charges against Netanyahu, without waiting for the result of the investigation and law court. The first charge, allegedly he helped his rich foreign «friends» in exchange for gifts, is difficult to prove. After all, the same actions in their favor he had to do in the framework of his official duties. The fact of the connection between gifts and practical actions of Netanyahu in such a situation is difficult to prove. In this occasion, we must recall Shimon Peres, Ezer Weizmann, Ehud Barak, Itzhak Herzog, Ehud Olmert, Avigdor Lieberman — they all had rich foreign sponsors or received large sums from abroad under various pretexts. Not to mention the Israeli-Arab politicians who receive «subsidies» from Qatar and other foreign sources. After all, Israeli «human rights activists» exist mainly at the expense of foreign «sponsors», including George Soros. Seemingly, we must judge them all. The situation is more complicated with accusations about corruption relations with the media. The first of these accusations is that Nuni Moses, the owner of the leading Israeli media concern, Yedioth Ahronoth, suggested to stop the long-running campaign of his media attacks against Netanyahu (and his family), in exchange for Netanyahu’s support against Moses’ main rival, Israel Hayom. We must recall that in the 90s Nuni Moses was the man who created or destroyed politicians, including the Prime Minister. And he also led a continuous campaign of harassment, pouring mud at Netanyahu and his wife Sarah. Whole of Israel was the witness of this campaign. However, TV did not lag behind Moses, I am a witness and remember everything perfectly. This is very similar to the campaign of the American Democrats against Trump. Interestingly, Netanyahu’s main competitor in the struggle for the Prime Minister’s office, Yair Lapid, is the witness in this case. Yet more interestingly, Yair Lapid began his journalistic career, and then his political career, under the strict guidance of the alleged «bribe-giver», Nuni Moses. That time Lapid was Moses’ employee… Netanyahu cannot deny that the conversation took place, because of Moses recorded it. Netanyahu claims only that he has not actually fulfilled this verbal agreement. Strictly speaking, this was not necessary, since the influence of the newspaper tycoon (and the owner of the news site Ynet) Moses has since then declining due to competition from the Israel Hayom Group and the competition of other electronic media. And then there came a case related to the owner of Bezeq company, and of the news site Walla, Shaul Alovich, who, as it turned out, was among the friends of Netanyahu. Like in the case of Moses, Netanyahu is accused that the news site Walla allegedly refers positively to Netanyahu, in contrast to the Moses’ site, Ynet. Me personally haven’t detect a change in Walla’s behavior towards Netanyahu. This accusation is simply difficult to prove. If everything were limited to these above-mentioned suspicions, then Netanyahu should not be charged. But there are still «leaks» about bribes, and these charges, in my opinion, are more serious. Well, let’s wait and see. Meanwhile, our enemies got a new reason for de-legitimizing Israel: the prime minister is under investigation. And this was the third reason for the antics of Natalie Portman. But let’s set aside the pretexts and discuss real reasons for her actions. Her success and position Natalie is obliged to a certain circle of people who run the cinema industry. Naturally, the actress acts as her surroundings expect. And this is the very environment that awarded the deceitful Palestinian art and propaganda film «Jenin, Jenin,» based on «facts» invented by Yasser Arafat personally. The UN Commission then investigated the charges against Israel and proved their falsity. Natalie Portman officially converted to the religion of the «Protection of Palestine», based on anti-Semitic lies, and betrayed us, the people of Israel. Such is her profit. We all received a slap from her for defending ourselves from the anti-Semitic aggression of the Palestinians, and allegedly a «bad» head of government. All mentioned above explains but doesn’t justify Natalie. She is immoral. In this connection, let’s analyze: does Benjamin Netanyahu makes good or bad for the people of Israel? After all, whether we like it or not, we all will be responsible for the policy of the government that we chose. The Palestinians are permitted to do everything bad, but we are not permitted any mistakes. To understand the role of Netanyahu, let’s ask ourselves: what is the main task facing any Israeli prime minister? The answer is: this task is to confront world anti-Semitic pressure, the ultimate goal of which is the genocide of the people of Israel. Under any pretext: of «peace», or «protection of Palestine,» or «the liberation of Jerusalem,» or even without a pretext. We Israelis feel ourselves a game that anti-Semites hunt. Strictly speaking, the Palestinian people were created artificially and receive salaries specifically to run ahead of the hunters and drive the game, that is, us. And also to give a propaganda motive for the hunt. Therefore, security is the main criterion to estimate Israeli politicians. Yitzhak Rabin and Shimon Peres failed not because of they tried to reach peace with the Arabs and Palestinians, but because of they took unjustified risk for this goal. The Oslo Accords did not include any guarantees in case the anti-Semites and their hired Palestinians break the treaty and resume the hunt against the Jews. Then-time leaders behaved as if anti-Semitism had disappeared, as if there was no unequal struggle for the survival of Israel. They, seemingly, recognized that the Jews offended the Palestinians for nothing, and drove them out of their native villages and towns for no guilt. But the Palestinians themselves know better than us that everything is just opposite. That the hunt for the Jews has lasted thousands of years, and that their ancestors have participated this hunt since the Arab people settled in Palestine. That the Jews of Palestine, both local and new arrivals, are «people of death» who are supposed to be robbed and killed, and this is what the ancestors of the Palestinians were doing. Why did the Palestinians reject the British 1937 proposal to create a Palestinian state with an Arab majority and a Jewish minority? Since they expected the British to consent to the genocide of Jews. The Islamist bandit Izz ad Din al Qassam moved from Syria to Palestine specifically to kill the Jews. And for this same reason Amin al Husseini betrayed the British, his former masters, and began to serve Hitler. Israeli concessions in the name of peace were perceived by the Palestinians as encouragement the resumption of the hunting Jews. And they staged the terror of Oslo, the Intifada, and then voted for Hamas, which promised to accomplish the genocide of the Jews. The latest, modernized version of the Hamas Charter (2017) repeats the demand to destroy Israel. However, the Anti-Semitic passages borrowed from Hitler’s Mein Kampf, were removed from the Charter. The World Caliphate also does not appear anymore, and there is no reference to the Islamic conquest of Palestine as a «legal» basis for claiming the destruction of Israel. If so, the new Hamas’ Charter lacks logical reasons for destruction of Israel. It turns out, that all our fault is that we exist. Of course, the Palestinians understand that without outside help they cannot cope with such a task as the destruction of Israel. Therefore, the stake is made for the intervention of «external» forces, such as Islamists, American democrats, world corporations, Iran, Europe, Russia, Turkey and who else? Well, anti-Zionists of all stripes (including European, Jewish and American liberals) made use of the fault of Rabin. They literally pushed the Palestinians to terror and Intifada, and then began to twist Israel’s hands, demanding to stop unilaterally our resistance to Palestinian terror and aggression (as well as the aggression of Iran and Hezbollah). And this time they did not even promise to give any peace in return for concessions. So, Netanyahu coped with his main task: in the most difficult period for Israel, he resisted the powerful pressure of the Obama administration, and of the European empire, not to mention Iran, Turkey, the Arab Spring, Egyptian and other Islamists. He secured the absolutely necessary occupation of Palestine. True, Gaza has not coped yet, but, let patience, gentlemen. Yes, I am far from agreeing with Binyamin Netanyahu, and I wrote (and I yet will write) in this issue. Despite this, I believe that he is the best prime minister of Israel among all real candidates. And even if he leaves his office, we all will remain grateful to him for what he has already accomplished. However, it would be better to give Netanyahu another chance: to consolidate success and, if possible, to achieve peace while maintaining the necessary security. Maybe, not the general peace with all anti-Semites, because of this is impossible. It is enough if our neighbors recognize us as an integral part of the Middle East. Let’s recall, the first peace treaty with the Arabs was signed by the «hawk» Menachem Begin. With US President Trump as an ally, Netanyahu can repeat Begin’s historical breakthrough, and at the same time not to give up Israel to anti-Semites, whether the Ayatollahs, Europe, the American democrats or the Palestinian people. http://aaronblog.co/2018/04/natalie-portman-binyamin-netanyahu-and-hunting-of-the-jews/ Edited April 24, 2018 by HouseKnight1 Quote
Deepwater6 Posted May 13, 2018 Report Posted May 13, 2018 HouseKnight, I admire and appreciate your spirit and passion on this subject, it's a very important, albeit never-ending issue. However I think you would garner better conversation and get your point across more clearly if you consider some changes to your posts. Before I go into my suggestions to help you get more interests in your posts, I'd like to comment briefly on the posting above. Specifically section 3, which seems to suggest that Miss Portman viewpoints are a product of her Palestinian dominated entertainment industry's inner circle she is subjected to. I have no hard data, but I would venture to guess that Miss Portman spends more time in her chosen profession in Hollywood and other places with people from Jewish descent. As I admit to claiming ignorance on this subject I would have to surmise that those with a Palestinian heritage are not shaping most of the actors in the entertainment industry. Getting back to your post here and my suggestions to better get your message out. 1. Post or respond to other topics. although it's obvious this issue is very important to you, I'm sure to meet you in person our conversation would be more that one dimensional. I'm sure you have other interests and opinions on other subjects that many of us would be glad to hear from you. When you only post on one topic over and over again many members will see the name and the subject then skip over it. They will do this because the same wordage on the same issue with the same viewpoint from the same person gets tiresome. 2. Make some of your posts a bit smaller and to the point. Many readers to the site sometimes only have a few minutes a day in their busy lives to review new or ongoing topics. Extremely lengthy post cause some readers to skip the post for one or two that may only have a few paragraphs and a link or two to check out. 3. No matter how strongly you view the issue consider giving credit where credit is due to the other side. Try to present both sides instead of your posts being all one sided. Giving acknowledgement to the other point of view on the issue keeps it interesting for the reader and helps the readers to consider all sides of the problem. As an example, I'm a staunch opponent of Donald Trump and deem him childish and dangerous, however, despite that there are things he has changed the dynamics of pertaining to stalemated world problems. Most of these situations may still become disastrous, but did telling North Korea we have a bigger "red button" than they do cause a breakthrough? I hope these suggestions help you get your important view on this complicated issue easier to get across. One last thing, I asked you before, but you never responded to it. You are very good at describing many things about this problem, but I rarely, if ever, see you offer what the world must do to make the issues of your view on this issue disappear? What would have to occur to give you the sense that every country involved with this are dealing with it in the most ideal way as a better for Israel and the region? What's the solution....? LaurieAG, sanctus, JMJones0424 and 1 other 4 Quote
sanctus Posted May 14, 2018 Report Posted May 14, 2018 Common Houseknight, we have been through it, many times, BDS is not anti-semitic although I agree there surely anti-semites doing it too. But so does JVP (Jewish Voice for Peace, check the out if not familiar). Or so do I... Do you want proof? Get Israel to change poltical direction and opression and I will send you a selfie from Tel Aviv and even write you to know which places you suggest to visit.You know I also boycott Turkey, for instance, but for that I was never branded anti-muslim. And with Berlusconi in power I boycotted Italy, also not branded anti-christian....so why should I be branded anti-semitic for boycotting Israel? Remember boycotting just means not buying anything from given country or supporting it in any way and nothing more, no hate in there.Wrt to your "world-wide campaign to de-legitimize Israel" proof please? Iran is not world-wide ;-) (and also far from all Iranians back the ayatollahs in this). De-legitimize some of the actions of Israel has nothing to do with questioing its right to exist. So yeah, there is world-wide support for stopping the eg. land-grabbing and new settlements and treatmeant of arabs as second class citizens etc. But that is actions of a state criticized....where you also saying that there was a world-wide campaign to de-legitimize Myanmar, when the world criticised the treatment of Rohingas? If you are coherent you should, but I doubt you would.Why would she not have the right to boycott whoever she wants? Does she have to talk and shake hands with everyone? No she doesn't and neither do you or me. To understand the role of Netanyahu, let’s ask ourselves: what is the main task facing any Israeli prime minister? The answer is: this task is to confront world anti-Semitic pressure, the ultimate goal of which is the genocide of the people of Israel. Under any pretext: of «peace», or «protection of Palestine,» or «the liberation of Jerusalem,» or even without a pretext.Wtf? Where is this anti-semitic pressure? Not even Iran has everyone supporting that...The answer is for the Israeli PM just like for any other PM: to create more security (all types: economically, violence etc.) for the people, not more hatred. But tell me again how is Israel reducing the creation of more hatred? Isreal with its current approach is shooting itself in the foot... I fail to see how you can not notice that. And then be surprised Hamas was elected. You know it always needs strength to choose the non-violent way and the more has been taken from you the more strength it needs (eg. first your cousins then your family's house get destroyed for some retaliation and then your new place, while all you were ever doing was working for your family to make a living: then 2 guys come along one says "take it easy it will be better" the other says "let's fight back", who would you follow?). Note I do not condone AT ALL the violence of Hamas, all I say is I understand how it came to be...Let's if for once you reply :-) JMJones0424, LaurieAG and exchemist 3 Quote
exchemist Posted May 16, 2018 Report Posted May 16, 2018 Common Houseknight, we have been through it, many times, BDS is not anti-semitic although I agree there surely anti-semites doing it too. But so does JVP (Jewish Voice for Peace, check the out if not familiar). Or so do I... Do you want proof? Get Israel to change poltical direction and opression and I will send you a selfie from Tel Aviv and even write you to know which places you suggest to visit. You know I also boycott Turkey, for instance, but for that I was never branded anti-muslim. And with Berlusconi in power I boycotted Italy, also not branded anti-christian....so why should I be branded anti-semitic for boycotting Israel? Remember boycotting just means not buying anything from given country or supporting it in any way and nothing more, no hate in there. Wrt to your "world-wide campaign to de-legitimize Israel" proof please? Iran is not world-wide ;-) (and also far from all Iranians back the ayatollahs in this). De-legitimize some of the actions of Israel has nothing to do with questioing its right to exist. So yeah, there is world-wide support for stopping the eg. land-grabbing and new settlements and treatmeant of arabs as second class citizens etc. But that is actions of a state criticized....where you also saying that there was a world-wide campaign to de-legitimize Myanmar, when the world criticised the treatment of Rohingas? If you are coherent you should, but I doubt you would. Why would she not have the right to boycott whoever she wants? Does she have to talk and shake hands with everyone? No she doesn't and neither do you or me. Wtf? Where is this anti-semitic pressure? Not even Iran has everyone supporting that...The answer is for the Israeli PM just like for any other PM: to create more security (all types: economically, violence etc.) for the people, not more hatred. But tell me again how is Israel reducing the creation of more hatred? Isreal with its current approach is shooting itself in the foot... I fail to see how you can not notice that. And then be surprised Hamas was elected. You know it always needs strength to choose the non-violent way and the more has been taken from you the more strength it needs (eg. first your cousins then your family's house get destroyed for some retaliation and then your new place, while all you were ever doing was working for your family to make a living: then 2 guys come along one says "take it easy it will be better" the other says "let's fight back", who would you follow?). Note I do not condone AT ALL the violence of Hamas, all I say is I understand how it came to be... Let's if for once you reply :-) Good post. Quote
LaurieAG Posted May 16, 2018 Report Posted May 16, 2018 HouseKnight1, Are you aware that the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising occurred between April 17 and May 16 1943, ending 75 years ago today? I for one think that one hate crime is never an excuse for another hate crime against any Semite. Semitea member of any of the peoples who speak or spoke a Semitic language, including in particular the Jews and Arabs.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_languagesSemitic languagesThe Semitic languages are a branch of the Afroasiatic language family originating in the Middle East.[2][3] Semitic languages are spoken by more than 330 million people across much of Western Asia, North Africa and the Horn of Africa, as well as in often large expatriate communities in North America and Europe, with smaller communities in the Caucasus and Central Asia. The terminology was first used in the 1780s by members of the Göttingen School of History,[4] who derived the name from Shem, one of the three sons of Noah in the Book of Genesis. The most widely spoken Semitic languages today are (numbers given are for native speakers only) Arabic (300 million),[5] Amharic (22 million),[6] Tigrinya (7 million),[7] Hebrew (~5 million native/L1 speakers),[8] Tigre (~1.05 million), Aramaic (575,000 to 1 million largely Assyrian fluent speakers)[9][10][11] and Maltese (482,880 speakers).[12] Quote
Maine farmer Posted May 16, 2018 Report Posted May 16, 2018 I have to ask, HouseKnight, are you aware that there are those who are both anti-semites and pro Israel? I speak of the evangelicals in the U.S.. They are applauding the relocation of the embassy to Jerusalem because they think it a necessary condition to bring about the second coming of Jesus Christ, at which time the non converting Jews will face eternal damnation. It's pretty scary stuff. Quote
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