What happens after life??

[Tim_Lou]

what do people mean die?? what happens when someone dies?? what do you mean that someone is dead?? what happens to their mind??

 

i read a book about near-death experience. it says that people see they got out of their bodies and see heaven and all that. thousands of them have the similar experience.

 

but how is this possible??? it cannot be explained by any scientific ideas..... maybe god really exists, or.....

 

i wanna see what you guys think.

[Tormod]

The mind disappears, the body decomposes and is recycled. That's it.

 

Tormod

[Mantra Man]

To accept that we 'live' beyond physical death is not something that everybody can

understand - Religion aside.

Our mindset is formed by our predecessors and our ignorance and belief in 'knowing all

there is to know' is a fallibility of mans arrogance.

 

In a nut-shell...yes there is 'life' after death because I experienced it.

The comfort of seeing that life goes on cannot be underestimated.

[Tim_Lou]

dying is not simple as that. thousands of people see similar stuffs when they are nearly dead. read some articles or books about it. the mind doesnt just disappear.

 

there are tons of evidence that proves there is a life after life.

they are all experieces from some near-death surivers. they were nearly die and the brains and all that shouldnt be functioning well. but they actually saw stuffs and could tell those stuffs after revive.

 

also, a guy who is said to be dead and was sent to some place to be frozen. but after 3 days, he came back to life. no one can explain why. he told the events that happen during these days. he saw stuffs like heaven and life review, seeing god and all that "crazy" stuffs.

 

even someone who didnt believe in god or child who never know what god is have similar experience.

 

if god is true, sciences would be mostly meaningless...

[Tim_Lou]

think about it, what do you mean you dont exist, what do you mean your mind is gone. its really complex. what will the world like after your dead.

 

tell me, what is mind, how does it work??? how can we response to different environment?? why is there mind?? why do we think?? love, fear, knowledge..... we still dont know what all there are.

 

mass and energy can't be destroyed or created as we all know. i think, life (i should say spirit, actually) too, cannot be destroyed. but if you ask me can it be created.. i dont know... tell me if you have any ideas.

[syndicated]

i think what this discussion comes down to, again, is the difference between evidence and proof.

There may be boatloads of evidence in support of life after death, or out of body expeiences, or any of the multitude of other theories in this area, but until there is proof, none of that evidence means anything tangible. The most feasible and logical explanation at this point is exactly what Tormod said.

There is no evidence which directly disproves the idea that there is NOTHING after death except decomposition.

[Mantra Man]

There are situations (religion for example) where evidence cannot be provided.

After death experiences are another.

Man has a tendency to believe that he knows all there is to know (bar fine tuning of recent

discoveries).

The earth 'was' flat, people couldn’t fly, and speeds above 19k.p.h. would cause

asphyxiation (George Stevenson's critics).

All of these, and countless others, were real beliefs...'facts' at a time when people of the

day could not comprehend or understand otherwise.

 

To dismiss anything that does not provided evidence is to believe that it cannot possibly

exist.

That frame of mind is no different than it was 300 years ago and we've all seen how wrong

people can be about the ways of the world.

 

The mind is only organic matter that, driven by minute electrical impulses, has the capacity

to outwit a machine which can process billions of calculations a second (Gary Kasparov v

Deep-Blue).

This organic matter (and everything else that we know of) is made up of atoms.

Atoms are compressed forms of energy that when split provide enormous amounts of heat

and light with no residual matter (or evidence that we can see).

So it's safe to assume that we are compressed energy, as is all other matter.

To understand this fact is to open our minds up to all other possibilities however

implausible they may seem initially.

Trying to understand Life-after-death is incomprehensible to some but a path we will all

one day 'live' to experience (pun intended).

Yes, I've seen it. Yes it's real....as real as our compressed energy bodies.

What was it like?

It's a place where I wondered 'where have I been' as opposed to 'where am I' , because I

had returned to the place that I came from.

That was the strangest part...knowing that I had been away but glad I was back.

Just like returning home after an exhausting holiday.

Evidence?....none.

But I don't need any...I experienced it.

Peoples disbelief will one day be disproved, guaranteed, but by then the issue of evidence

will be null and void.

[Andrameleh]

The possibility of an illusion did not ever passed through your mind regarding your expirience from "beyond"?

[Tim_Lou]

proof? where does proof come from? experiences, people all observe similar near-death experiecne, is that a proof??

 

if not, what is proof?

 

life after life can really be true, its just there is not a good theory yet, and people can't accept it yet. i know it goes against a lot of rules. but you cant really expain this. why do they see those stuffs? do they lie? is it just an illusion? but how come thousands of people see similar things and some childrens who dont know the god or someone who dont believe in the god saw the similar? maybe time changes ones memory, but, overall, the near-death experience all match.

[Lord Henry Wotton]

Positivism is often very ignorant. It assumes that our senses are sufficient to understand our existence.

Now, here's one that may interest you Tim_Lou: A child less than 4, never having heard of the term "Angel" and even knowing nothing really of a God has a death experience and sees such things, only to find later on in life what these things were.

 

I believe in not merely a body and physical soul (physical life force) but also a spirit. An incorporeal entity.

[Tim_Lou]

i know this already. i saw it in the book.

 

anyway, it proves that the "God" thing is not just an illusion, maybe it is but its not caused by religious.

 

if God really exists, all we doing is just like "visiting" the earth or having a game on earth. that sounds really crazy. but what can we say that it is not right??? god maybe living in a different dimension..... and peole go to a different dimension when dead.....

 

there is one thing really confuse me, if god exists, what would the heaven like? will spirits die in there?? how big is it? maybe all these are beyond imagination that it is pointless to think...

[Lord Henry Wotton]

Infinite in size. No death. Death as such does not in exist in a place of perfection.

[deamonstar]

near-death experiences are real. however, this does not prove that there is a soul or true life after death.

the human brain is a complex organ driven by electro-chemical reactions. when a person dies all of these chemicals are still present in the brain and continue to allow the brain to function for some time even after breathing and the heart stops. it is for this very reason that a person can be revived after a short time through c.p.r. or defribullation.

when the person is revived, he/she may be able to recall some of the mental images that they had during the time when they were technicaly 'dead'. this is NOT to say that everyone who is revived in this manner will be able to recall these types of memories and, is in fact a rare occurance indeed for anyone to be able to recall these experiences. though it is only when a person can remeber those 'visions' that the experience is sensationalized. and a lack of understanding of the processes of the human brain can lead a person to conclude that these expeiriences are due to a 'higher power'.

 

though the brain can still function after the body dies, it does not continue eternally. the decomposition of the chemicals in the brain takes time (enviromental factors such as temperature and the condition of the body at the time of death can greatly increase or reduce the rate of decomposition).

the death of the brain begins the moment that it stops recieving oxygen and ends when the different chemicals in the brain have all stopped reacting with each other (have become nuetral). however, some time during the interim, the brain will become too damaged for a person to be revived with a chance of normalcy in life, and after a certain point, though the brain may still function, it will be too damaged to support the bodys' other functions (such as breathing, the heart and other organs) leading to organ failure and, inevitably, death.

[OpenMind5]

Tim_Lou

 

Hello,

I was very interested in your question...I myself am devoted Christan who thinks science and religion should go hand in hand...Anyways, most people think that life is exsistance and death is the end of that exsitance...I disagree that it is the end. I feel life is a level of exsistance and death is like an elevator that takes us to the nest level. I feel that the next level is with god. Death is a very interesting thng that people are afraid of...I don't know why, but then i do at the same time. People fear that this is teh end of them...when it isn't. So my opion on the question is yes, there is a heaven and hell, and death will get you to that plain of new exsistance.

 

OpenMindFive

[OpenMind5]

Tim_Lou

 

Hello,

I was very interested in your question...I myself am devoted Christan who thinks science and religion should go hand in hand...Anyways, most people think that life is exsistance and death is the end of that exsitance...I disagree that it is the end. I feel life is a level of exsistance and death is like an elevator that takes us to the nest level. I feel that the next level is with god. Death is a very interesting thng that people are afraid of...I don't know why, but then i do at the same time. People fear that this is teh end of them...when it isn't. So my opion on the question is yes, there is a heaven and hell, and death will get you to that plain of new exsistance.

 

OpenMindFive

[scubawuba]

I too am a christian that believes the same think. I had a near death expirence before back in 5th grade. i was in a fight and got knocked out cold. And i do not watch a lot of tv. i'm not really into it. I mean sometimes i watch speed channel or i watch musci channels. but i dot watch that family type stuff like "its a miracle". I mean my parents do. but i dont. Im usually riding my bike, running or using the computer. that basically wut i do on my spare time. but yeah. i remember it being all bright around me but i could see the peple circled around me. it was wierd. I mean i know for a fact i wasnt under the influence of narcotics or alcochol. But yeah. I believe our bodies decompose but our spirit goes somewhere. Or maybe our spirit goes from our body to another body on another plannet or a parrallel universe.

 

Scuba Wuba

[Tim_Lou]

wow, you have the near death experience, maybe you can contact some resercher and tell them your stories. did you see any humans figures there or any animals or grass land???

 

maybe everyone is just like visiting the earth, everything is made up. our body is just like a suit. when we are dead, we go back to where we from and leave the suit.