Buckminster Fuller

[Southtown]

& who's stone do you think caught my eye? Mr. Fuller's of course.

Strange. He died two days before his wife of 65 years, who was born less than 6 months after him, and this barely a week before their 66th wedding aniversary. How did they die, I wonder?

 

And what the hell does "Trimtab" mean? Haha

[Turtle]

Strange. He died two days before his wife of 65 years, who was born less than 6 months after him, and this barely a week before their 66th wedding aniversary. How did they die, I wonder?

 

And what the hell does "Trimtab" mean? Haha

I don't know how they died; I bet we can find out though.

The trimtab thing is very weird. Reading his work, I think it's his attempt at humility. He wanted to control the whole ship, but couldn't & yet found his power & value in keeping the ship in trim by his little part. Wanting to be remembered for guidence. All that aside, it is alliteratively uncomfortable. He probably intended that too! :confused:

[CraigD]

… And what the hell does "Trimtab" mean? …

A trimtab (usually, but not always spelled as 2 words) is a small, adjustable flap on the rudder of a boat or any of the several control surfaces of an aircraft. It deflects the main control surface in a direction opposite which it is set. Some trimtabs are fixed – they must be adjusted before flight – others are adjustable via a mechanical wheel or electric switch in the cockpit. They eliminate the need for the pilot to apply constant force on the control for the main control surface, or to have a complicated/cumbersome device (eg: bungee cord) to do it for them.

 

My guess is that Bucky is making a little posthumous insider joke, somewhat like a modernized version of Archimedres "Give me a place to stand and with a lever I will move the whole world." I think Bucky’s acknowledging that while he didn’t dramatically change the course of history, in a clever and subtle way, he nudged it toward its present course.

[Turtle]

My guess is that Bucky is making a little posthumous insider joke, somewhat like a modernized version of Archimedres "Give me a place to stand and with a lever I will move the whole world." I think Bucky’s acknowledging that while he didn’t dramatically change the course of history, in a clever and subtle way, he nudged it toward its present course.

___Very well written Craig; very well written.

___I found this on the circumstances of Trimtab's death:

http://encyclopedia.laborlawtalk.com/R._Buckminster_Fuller

 

It is said that while visiting his comatose wife in hospital, he said "She's waiting for me," closed his eyes, and died of a heart attack within 2 hours. His wife died 36 hours later.

[Turtle]

___Since finding the online copy of Synergetics in August, I have spent many hours in its reading & never failed to find something new (or at least forgotten). How funny then that I overlooked entirely the section on Numerology until stumbling on it today; it is of course about Katabataks after all.

http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/s12/toc12.html

:confused:

[Southtown]

It is said that while visiting his comatose wife in hospital, he said "She's waiting for me," closed his eyes, and died of a heart attack within 2 hours. His wife died 36 hours later.

Amazing. Well, that's what 65 years of marriage will get you, I guess.

[Turtle]

___Any of you doing any reading in Synergetics? In deference to Mr. Fuller's wishes, I now call him Trimtab; I often wondered what he preferred seeing as a lot of folks refer to him as 'Bucky'. At the rate I'm going I have a year or two of reading yet to do. :QuestionM

[infamous]

___Any of you doing any reading in Synergetics? In deference to Mr. Fuller's wishes, I now call him Trimtab; I often wondered what he preferred seeing as a lot of folks refer to him as 'Bucky'. At the rate I'm going I have a year or two of reading yet to do. :QuestionM

Still reading, a lot of material to cover and I read rather slowly.

[Turtle]

Still reading, a lot of material to cover and I read rather slowly.

___Glad to hear it Infy; me too.;)

 

___While I did skip ahead to read his take on numerology/congruence/residues(& therefore Katabataks), I have returned to the beginning to review his exposition on the divisioning tetrahedron. I never finished assembling all my A Quanta Modules from their paper planar nets & I think I may take it up again.

___I recently came to realize that in regard to Fuller's divisionings of the tetrahedron I have considered them in term of their surface, & that doing so is in error. The surface is an arifact of constructing a 3-D model of a 6-D enrgetic tensegrity. There is no surface, no curves, only straight line edges.

___Off to study at sea; glad to have you aboard Infy, Southy, Craigy, & Buffy.:)

[Turtle]

___I came back around today to my Quanta A Modules I have started building from Trimtab's planar net in Synergetics. I have three together as well as the remaining twenty one un-assembled Quanta A modules. All put together, the 12 left & 12 right Quanta A Modules form a tetrahedron.

 

(Slippery little things these Quanta A Modules; it is difficult to even pick one up with my fingers!):)

[Turtle]

Moving to the metaphysical, the idea of "moments" is under discussion in another thread and I posted some Fuller comments there. On further reading, I found him specifically using the term "moment"; I have the quote below & the link to the quotes origin.

 

 

303.00 Universe is the comprehensive, historically synchronous, integral-aggregate system embracing all the separate integral-aggregate systems of all men?s consciously apprehended and communicated (to self or others) nonsimultaneous, nonidentical, but always complementary and only partially overlapping, macro-micro, always-and- everywhere, omnitransforming, physical and metaphysical, weighable and unweighable event sequences. Universe is a dynamically synchronous scenario that is unitarily nonconceptual as of any one moment, yet as an aggregate of finites is sum-totally finite.

 

http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/s03/toc03.html

 

 

 

 

:)

[Turtle]

___Lately I have not found the time to revisit this discussion, but as Fuller discusses time at length, I thought it time to drop in. As I stated in the beginning of this thread, reading Synergetics may take years.:eek2:

___Reference link to Synergetics exposition on time:

 

http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/s05/p2800.html#530.10

[Turtle]

___I picked a section in Synergetics to read which I chose 'randomly', (or is it 'chaotically'?). No matter; here's some Fuller to make you fuller with omnitopology.;) ;)

 

Section 1000.00 Omnitopology

1001.14 The more humanity probes and verifies experimentally by reducing its theories to demonstrable practice in order to learn whether or not the theories are valid, the more clearly does Universe reveal itself as being generated and regenerated only upon a complex of entirely orderly relationships. The inherent spherical center viewpoint with which each individual is endowed generates its own orderly radii of observation in a closed finite system of event observations that are subject to orderly angular subdividing, recording, and interrelating in spherical trigonometric computational relationship to the observer's inherently orderly sphere of reference.

1001.15 The expression "frame" of reference is not only "square" as imputed by the two-dimensional language of youth, but also by its exclusive three-dimensional axes of reference. Such XYZ coordinates impose inept, exclusively rectilinear definings, which are uncharacteristic of the omniwavilinear orbiting Universe reality. Science has not found any continuous surfaces, solids, straight lines, or infinitely extensible, nonclosed-system planes. The only infinity humanity has discovered experimentally is that of the whole-fraction subdivisibility of wholes into parts, as for instance by the progressive halvings that divide the finitely closed circle into ever smaller, central-angle-expressed, arc increments. The spherical dimensions of tangent and angle frequencied intervals can always be searchlighted "right on" all actual event tracery.

 

http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/s10/p0000.html

[Turtle]

Explorations in the Geometry of Thinking Fuller subtitles his work, & he doesn't disappoint. Many of our Hypography threads question what it means to exist, but offer little in any way of a reproducable answer; i.e. our experience(s) remains ours alone despite our describing our experience(s).

In full form, Fuller lays out the geometry of what "experience" means and so gives a basis of commonality & agreement to every-one.

Here's a bit of the text & a link to the full text; enjoy.

 

502.00 Experience

 

502.05 Experience is always special case but always governed by generalized laws. Among the generalized laws governing experience is the law that there are three directional aspects of all experience: in, out, and around. These directions manifest an inward-outward pulsing and a surface-articulated patterning. The pulsing patterning has six consequences:

1. the change in size wave frequency;

2. the plurality of precessionally induced surface vertex-vortex rotations of the expansive-contractive pulsations acting as omninonpolar vertex, alternately winding and unwinding, alternately and symmetrically to take in the slack of the contracting system or unwinding locally to permit symmetrical expansion;

3. the inherent axial rotation of the whole system;

4. the inherent orbitally occasioned surface changings occasioned by external forces operating precessionally upon the conceptual system considered;

5. the precessionally induced inside-outing transformations; and

6. the local-surface spiral wrinklings caused by axial torque; i.e., when opposite poles rotate in opposite directions (as with the Earth's clockwise rotation of high-pressure, clear-weather atmospheric motions and the counterclockwise, spirally wrinkled, cloud-cover pattern of the low-pressure stormy weather in the Northern Hemisphere and the oppositely spiraling behaviors in the Southern Hemisphere in respect to the same fair and stormy weather conditions).

 

Full text:

http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/s05/p0000.html#501.20

[Turtle]

___Well nows ladies & germs.:( Watercooler ya say? I'll have eine tasse kaffee bitte:cup: , & what about that Buckminster Fuller? No really.

All this talk about galaxies & atoms & this or that shaped thing or thingy, and yet Fuller attempts to describe it all; logically; geometrically. Here's a snippet on structure from Synergetics:

601.02 Structures are constellar pattern conservations. These definitions hold true all the way from whole Universe to lesser and local pattern differentiations all the way into the atom and its nuclear subassemblies. Each of the families of chemical elements, as well as their most complex agglomerations as super-star Galaxies, are alike cosmic structures. It is clear from the results of modern scientific experiments that structures are not things. Structures are event constellations.

___Right before that, this tidbit on pattern puts me immediately in mind of the Katabatak Patterns:

601.00 Pattern Conservation

601.01 It is a tendency for patterns either to repeat themselves locally or for their parts to separate out to join singly or severally with other patterns to form new constellations. All the forces operative in Universe result in a complex progression of most comfortable__i.e., least effort, rearrangings in which the macro-medio-micro star events stand dynamically together here and there as locally regenerative patterns. Spontaneously regenerative local constellations are cosmic, since they appear to be interoriented with angular constancy.

Source:

http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/s06/p0000.html

 

So what up science folks? No opinion whatsoever?! Since when is that the case at Hypography? Not even a half-hearted attack or name calling?:) Gentle barb? :) Heaven forbid, a cogent comment?:shrug:

[Queso]

chaotically attracted to this thread....

 

I'm looking thru it

wide eyed, K????

[Turtle]

chaotically attracted to this thread....

 

I'm looking thru it

wide eyed, K????

 

Yes of course it's K Orby. :)

Interesting you mention chaos, as that area of math as a 'theory' did not exist until after Fuller's death. However, my current quote is Fuller's take on probability & moreover reinforces my own view based on chaos theory understanding.

Orby [et al], you may find some of the drawings of visual interest first, then try going to the table of contents & look for words you like & then go read some from the that/those section(s).:shrug:

http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/toc/toc.html