tetrahedron Posted February 22, 2019 Report Posted February 22, 2019 Apologies for cross-posting (to Physics and Mathematics). A couple of days ago I discovered how to squeeze a Madelung-type rule out of atomic nuclear structure. In the Left-step periodic table created by the elderly French polymath Charles Janet in the late 1920's, all the periods end in s-block elements, ignoring chemical bonding behavior but reproducing (at least ideally) the sequence of introduction of new blocks in the table. Thus s, ps, dps, fdps, with each structure repeated (so 1s, 2s, 2p3s, 3p4s, 3d4p5s, 4d5p6s, 4f5d6p7s, 5f6d7p8s). Several workers around the same time started noticing that the sums of the shell number plus the quantum number (m)l value for each of the orbitals within the Janet period structure (N+L) always had the same value: 1s= 1+0=12s= 2+0=22p= 2+1=3, 3s= 3+0=33p= 3+1=4, 4s= 4+0=43d= 3+2=5, 4p= 4+1=5, 5s= 5+0=54d= 4+2=6, 5p= 5+1=6, 6s= 6+0=64f= 4+3=7, 5d= 5+2=7, 6p= 6+1=7, 7s= 7+0=75f= 5+3=8, 6d= 6+2=8, 7p= 7+1=8, 8s= 7+0=8 In the atomic nucleus, on the other hand, under a simple harmonic oscillator model, we are also presented with a Left-step pattern, but with a major difference. Unlike the electronic periods, shells in the harmonic oscillator system have all their orbital components sorted for parity (either all positive (even (m)l) or negative (odd (m)l)). And unlike the electronic system, period lengths by element count are not repeated. Rather the total number of orbitals within the shell are repeated. So 1s, 1p (both with only one orbital); 1d2s, 1f2p (with two orbitals); 1g2d3s, 1h2f3p (with three orbitals); 1i2g3d4s, 1j2h3f4p (with four orbitals). I found that the Madelung-type rule for the harmonic oscillator nucleus with 2N+L works just fine, thus: 1s: 1s: (2x1)+0=21p: 1p: (2x1)+1=3 1d2s: 1d: (2x1)+2=4; 2s: (2x2)+0=41f2p: 1f: (2x1)+3=5; 2p: (2x2)+1=51g2d3s: 1g: (2x1)+4=6; 2d: (2x2)+2=6; 3s (2x3)+0=61h2f3p: 1h: (2x1)+5=7; 2f: (2x2)+3=7; 3p (2x3)+1=71i2f3d4s: 1i: (2x1)+6=8; 2g: (2x2)+4=8; 3d: (2x3)+2=8; 4s: (2x4)+0=81j2h3f4p: 1j: (2x1)+7=9; 2h: (2x2)+5=9; 3f: (2x3)+3=9; 4p: (2x4)+1=9 The more realistic model which includes the spin-orbit coupling presents a more complicated picture, as the intruder levels which insert themselves into the structure of the previous harmonic oscillator shells have different 2N+L value than that shell (one greater). This raises the question as to whether they are truly incorporated into these receptor shells. First, they have the opposite parity (- adds to +, + adds to -). Secondly, calculations of total shell energies (conserved over ellipsoidal deformation) show that the intruders aren't part of the energy conservation (which was a big surprise for me). Jess Tauber Quote
fahrquad Posted February 23, 2019 Report Posted February 23, 2019 How dare you post a question about atomic structure to a forum dedicated to Science? Go find a chat forum somewhere to ask that crap (just kidding of course). Quote
tetrahedron Posted February 23, 2019 Author Report Posted February 23, 2019 It actually gets more interesting. My original post pertains only to spherical nuclei. But even in the harmonic oscillator-only model most nuclei will be ellipsoidally deformed. One way to express such deformation is via the so-called 'oscillator ratio' (OR). The usual convention in the US is to have the relative extent of the matter wave in the polar direction as the ratio's numerator, and in the equatorial direction as the denominator (in some countries, like Japan, they flip the values, so the denominator goes with polar and the numerator with equatorial). It turns out that for an OR (US-convention) of 2:1 (a prolate ellipsoid of revolution) the 'Madelung' values are N+L, not 2N+L as for spheres. N+L again is the same as we see in the electronic system, but with a twist. In the latter each such sum appears just once for any period. But here in the prolate nucleus the values appear TWICE in sequence. This reflects the fact that the orbital components for 2:1 occur twice for any size rather than once as in the sphere. So all very lawful mathematically, though I don't know the shape of that law yet- will be exploring other oscillator ratios today- both prolate and oblate. Should be a blast! Jess Tauber Quote
tetrahedron Posted February 25, 2019 Author Report Posted February 25, 2019 I've been looking at the oblate oscillator ratios to see if I can unpack their features with regard to a Madelung-like rule, or as Philip says, a Janet one. Or, as a wag might say, a Brady Bunch rule (that is, Jan Mad). If one lays out the orbital summation within derived shells marking deformed ellipsoid magic numbers as an array, something really interesting happens. So, for oblate oscillator ratio 1:2 (equatorial extent of the matter wave twice the polar extent) the shells look like this: 1s1/21p3/2 (one orbital component per shell) 1d5/2 1p1/21f7/2 1d3/2 (two components per shell) 1g9/2 1f5/2 2s1/2 1h11/2 1g7/2 2p3/2 (three components per shell) 1i13/2 1h9/2 2d5/2 2p1/21j15/2 1i11/2 2f7/2 2d3/2 (four components per shell) *1k17/2 *1j13/2 2g9/2 2f5/2 3s1/2*1l19/2 *1k15/2 *2h11/2 2g7/2 3p3/2 (five components per shell) One can easily stagger individual sequences here relative to each other. When you do you can draw '*isospin' lines connecting all the same-spin components. They all slope downwards to the right. This would be a 'right-step' table of sorts. And at a different angle you'd connect all the orbital components making up the spherical shells as described in my first posting on this topic. With a prolate deformed ellipsoid of oscillator ratio 2:1 (which has the doubled N+L pattern) we get the following (I hope it comes out ok here and doesn't reorganize itself in terms of line justification): //////////////////////////////1s1/2//////////////////////////////1p1/2 (one orbital component per shell) ////////////////////1p3/2 2s1/2////////////////////1d3/2 2p1/2 (two components per shell) //////////1d5/2 2p3/2 3s1/2//////////1f5/2 2d3/2 3p1/2 (three components per shell) 1f72 2d5/2 3p3/2 4s1/21g7/2 2f5/2 3d3/2 4p1/2 (four components per shell) You'll note that THIS array is organized as a kind of left-step table. '*isospin' lines are vertical. Lines connecting orbital components of the same spherical shell are sloping up and to the right, in the opposite direction from those in the oblate 1:2 osicllator ratio array listed above this one. I suspect similar arrays can be made for higher deformations in either oblate or prolate directions, and they will bear some resemblance to the Madelung/Janet diagrams which do this job for the electronic system.So far I haven't been able to discern what the (N,L) rule is for the oblate system. Note however that in the prolate deformed nuclei under the harmonic oscillator model, the doubled triangular number intervals are used twice for 2:1, thrice for 3:1 and so on, a MULTIPLICATION (I don't yet know how this relates to the (N,L) summations). But the oblates do things in the inverse manner, that is for oscillator ratio 1:2 we find a doubled triangular number interval between EVERY SECOND magic, and for 1:3 between every THIRD, and so on. I have to believe that any Madelung/Janet formulation will be strongly related to these facts for the oblates. Jess Tauber Quote
tetrahedron Posted February 27, 2019 Author Report Posted February 27, 2019 So, I found another Madelung-like relation. At oscillator ratio 4:1, the relation is N+2L (remember that for 1:1 (the sphere) the relation is 2N+L, and for 2:1 (prolate ellipsoid) the relation is N+L (or perhaps restatable as 2N+2L?). 1s1/2: 1+2(0)=11p1/2: 1+2(1)=32s1/2: 2+2(0)=22p1/2: 2+2(1)=4_____________ 1p3/2 3s1/2: 1+2(1)=3; 3+2(0)=31d3/2 3p1/2: 1+2(2)=5; 3+2(1)=52p3/2 4s1/2: 2+2(1)=4; 4+2(0)=42d3/2 4p1/2: 2+2(2)=6; 4+2(1)=6___________________________ 1d5/2 3p3/2 5s1/2: 1+2(2)=5; 3+2(1)=5; 5+2(0)=51f5/2 3d3/2 5p1/2: 1+2(3)=7; 3+2(2)=7; 5+2(1)=72d5/2 4p3/2 6s1/2: 2+2(2)=6; 4+2(1)=6; 6+2(0)=62f5/2 4d3/2 6p1/2: 2+2(3)=8; 4+2(2)=8; 6+2(1)=8_________________________________________ 1f7/2 3d5/2 5p3/2 7s1/2: 1+2(3)=7; 3+2(2)=7; 5+2(1)=7; 7+2(0)=71g7/2 3f5/2 5d3/2 7p1/2: 1+2(4)=9; 3+2(3)=9; 5+2(2)=9; 7+2(1)=92f7/2 4d5/2 6p3/2 8s1/2: 2+2(3)=8; 4+2(2)=8; 6+2(1)=8; 8+2(0)=82g7/2 4f5/2 6d3/2 8p1/2: 2+2(4)=10; 4+2(3)=10; 6+2(2)=10; 8+2(1)=10. Note that these sums do not increase monotonically but involve 2 steps forward and one step back. Other than that they are entirely regular mathematically. Quote
tetrahedron Posted March 3, 2019 Author Report Posted March 3, 2019 Here's another- super hyperdeformed harmonic oscillator nucleus- far more deformed in the prolate direction than any real nucleus ever discovered: So far there seems to be a pattern to even-numerator prolate ellipsoidally deformed nuclei with regard to the Madelung-like formula. For 2:1 we have N+2L. For 4:1 we have N+4L. And now for 6:1 the formula is N+3L. The multiplication factor for L is half the oscillator ratio's numerator. Still can't figure out how the odd-numerator oscillator ratio shells pattern in this regard, or any of the oblate systems. Will keep working at it. I'm sure something will come to me. 6:1 1s1/2 1+3(0)=11p1/2 1+3(1)=42s1/2 2+3(0)=22p1/2 2+3(1)=53s1/2 3+3(0)=33p1/2 3+3(1)=6------------------------1p3/2 4s1/2 1+3(1)=4; 4+3(0)=41d3/2 4p1/2 1+3(2)=7; 4+3(1)=72p3/2 5s1/2 2+3(1)=5; 5+3(0)=52d3/2 5p1/2 2+3(2)=8; 5+3(1)=83p3/2 6s1/2 3+3(1)=6; 6+3(0)=63d3/2 6p1/2 3+3(2)=9; 6+3(1)=9------------------------------------------------1d5/2 4p3/2 7s1/2 1+3(2)=7; 4+3(1)=7; 7+3(0)=71f 5/2 4d3/2 7p1/2 1+3(3)=10; 4+3(2)=10; 7+3(1)=102d5/2 5p3/2 8s1/2 2+3(2)=8; 5+3(1)=8; 8+3(0)=82f5/2 5d3/2 8p1/2 2+3(3)=11; 5+3(2)=11; 8+3(1)=113d5/2 6p3/2 9s1/2 3+3(2)=9; 6+3(1)=9; 9+3(0)=93f5/2 6d3/2 9p1/2 3+3(3)=12; 6+3(2)=12; 9+3(1)=12--------------------------------------------------------------------------1f7/2 4d5/2 7p3/2 10s1/2 1+3(3)=10; 4+3(2)=10; 7+3(1)=10; 10+3(0)=101g9/2 4f5/2 7d3/2 10p1/2 1+3(4)=13; 4+3(3)=13; 7+3(2)=13; 10+3(1)=132f7/2 5d5/2 8p3/2 11s1/2 2+3(3)=11; 5+3(2)=11; 8+3(1)=11; 11+3(0)=112g5/2 5f5/2 8d3/2 11p1/2 2+3(4)=14; 5+3(3)=14; 8+3(2)=14; 11+3(1)=143f7/2 6d5/2 9p3/2 12s1/2 3+3(3)=12; 6+3(2)=12; 9+3(1)=12; 12+3(0)=123g7/2 6f5/2 9d3/2 12p1/2 3+3(4)=15; 6+3(3)=15; 9+3(2)=15; 12+3(1)=15---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jess Tauber Quote
tetrahedron Posted March 7, 2019 Author Report Posted March 7, 2019 So I've now been able to describe a general rule for oscillator ratios for prolate nucei under the harmonic oscillator model that have even numerators, with one as denominator. 2:1 is N+L. 4:1 is N+2L. 6:1 is N+3L. And 8:1 is N+4L... and so on. Of course REAL nuclei also have spin-orbit corrections to consider, on the one hand, and they NEVER get as deformed as oscillator ratio 6:1 (let alone any higher ratio). But one has to start somewhere. All these even-numerator oscillator ratios have shells that have alternating parity suborbital components (so for example f, d, p, s, as we see in the electronic system), while those that have odd numerators have shells with all-same parity (so j,h,f,p or i,g,d,s). I've been trying to come up with a work-around for these latter oscillator ratios, since the simple rule doesn't apply to them. I think I've hit on a solution, which involves corrections for the relative positions of particular suborbitals in shell structure. So far as I know nobody has ever bothered to label these relative positions since quantum behavior hadn't ever seemed to be affected by them before. After I get all the prolate oscillator ratios out of the way come the oblates, which have their own boatload of issues. Jess Tauber Quote
tetrahedron Posted March 11, 2019 Author Report Posted March 11, 2019 There is a more general equation that covers all prolate and oblate nuclei that I've been able to tease out of the sequences of shells at different harmonic oscillator values. They depend on relative position within the chain of orbital partials that make up the shells. For the prolate nuclei, we count from the left, so that the first orbital partial (with the largest spin) has positional value 0, the second partial has position 1, the third 2 and so on. Then the oscillator ratio's numerator defines a multiplication factor (one less than said numerator) that creates a subtraction term. So for example oscillator ratio 2:1 has a multiplication factor of 1. Then we multiply this factor against the position value. For the oblate nuclei, we count from the RIGHT, where the spin is minimal in that orbital partial. The multiplication factor is one less than the DENOMINATOR of the oscillator value. With these two rules, all the Madelung-like equations for simple oscillator ratios are solved (so X/1, 1/Y) and all sums are completely consistent. I'm currently working on the more complex oscillator ratios (such as 3:2, 2:3, etc.). They appear to use very similar rules to the above. Jess Tauber Quote
tetrahedron Posted April 17, 2019 Author Report Posted April 17, 2019 (edited) So the general formula for harmonic oscillator-only nuclei with simple oscillator ratios (where either the numerator is 1 (for oblates) or the denominator is 1 (for prolates), is, for oblates, 2N+L- X(DELTA), where X is the oscillator ratio's DENOMINATOR-1 and DELTA is the distance in counts of orbital partials from the right end of the chain of orbital partials in the shell structure. The formula for prolate shells is 2N+L-X(DELTA), where X is the oscillator ratio's NUMERATOR-1, and DELTA is the distance in counts of orbital partials from the LEFT end of the chain of orbital partials in the shell structure. Where the oscillator ratio is simple (N:1 or 1:N) there are no exceptions to these rules in the oscillator model.. Jess Tauber Edited April 17, 2019 by pascal Quote
tetrahedron Posted April 22, 2019 Author Report Posted April 22, 2019 Anyone wanting to see if they can reproduce my results themselves can visit the following link: https://application.wiley-vch.de/books/info/0-471-35633-6/toi99/www/struct/struct.pdf?fbclid=IwAR2mRGqB5StBxhK4-J6zlbWAmXzfVsMjHOXe5nURC8fppNpQTFlBSSy8S7M. Figure 17 shows the original chart of energy levels of orbital partials for the harmonic oscillator model of the nucleus that I've used to determine all my results. Unfortunately you have to provide the orbital partial labels yourself. To get you started, the lowest energy level is for 1s1/2 (2 nucleons), shown in the chart as horizontal at energy 1.5 h-bar omega-bar. The next two levels are for 1p1/2 (the lower ray) and 1p3/2, (the higher ray), when looking on the right half of the chart (prolate deformation), and so on. On the right, prolate side you always start with the lowest spin partial orbital (spin 1/2) and work up. Each orbital can only have two rays, so if there are more than two then more than one orbital is being represented. In the harmonic oscillator model here all orbitals within period analogues are same-parity, either positive (s, d, g, i) or negative (p, f, h, j). The different osicllator ratios are found vertically where one sees intersections of orbital partial rays. Jess Tauber Quote
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