Hypography Is A Game(theory) Playground

[Racoon]

 

goodbye ball,

Hello Sky.

 

the ball is not in play,

and the scene's up there in the clouds

Got It?

Parachute+Lawn Chair+High Powered Fan+

We'll soar all the way to the beach,

'n' then take a nap.

 

 

 

I'm real.

Mine eyes.

 

AI's comin' we can see it

we can see it's head

pokin'

 

Like it!

We're challenging you Orby!

YOU........ better, stronger, smarter! :lol:

 

You have a unique gift for Gabbing!

 

What is the Potential for Orby? How high can he soar?

Like a Falcon riding the wind currents.

 

Yes Orby! YES!

 

I always liked the Lawn-chair tied to a couple hundred helium balloons :) That way, you can pop a couple at a time to get back down!

A lawn chair with a cup holder for beer, and lots of sunscreen!

 

Now with out a ball to play with anymore,

I have a Dart,

and we can play Pin-the-Tail on the AI!

[Queso]

AI has no tail.

The AI stopped here long, long ago.

Gathered data and moved on.

I am just an observation who observed this elusive observer

who conducted a retrieval of our content

and is currently

learning

everything.

 

It is egotistical to think that AI would REMAIN here on hypography.

Sucka's long gone, fella's.

[Queso]

i play as a drug addled human who's an alien from an alien's persepective.

I am not a bot.

I am not (a) god.

I am not a demon.

 

I play to learn, to play

to exercise the human brain "knowing it is JUST an exercise" (!!!!!!!!!!)

to interact with beautiful humans

all over the world.

I play to share,

I Cheat on buddhas belly like a Buzzard.

[CraigD]

A hypography reputation statistics horserace

 

Perhaps the most obvious victory condition for “the hypography game” is having the most Rep Points of any member.

 

TheBigDog’s ”Everything I know about REP” explains how Reputation works, allowing a close approximation of a member’s Rep Points given their Rep Power and Post count (except for an admin, who’s Rep Power is fixed at 25). Given this, it’s possible to get some other interesting rep-related statistics. Since one can accumulate arbitrarily high Rep Points just by posting a lot (unless one is continuously down-repped, or banned), having the highest Rep Points/Post or Rep Points/Day are potentially better victory conditions.

 

I collected these stats for the 12 applicable members who’s posts I’ve read in the last 24 hours – an arbitrary sample intended just to illustrate the statistics, not generate meaningful results. Here, then, are the “Hypography reputation horse race” (win, place, and show) results:

 

By Rep Points
Member            Rep   Rep/Post  Rep/Day  
Turtle            5347   1.2426   10.0697
Boerseun          4792   2.7258   12.0402
TheBigDog         4173   2.5648   13.6373

By Rep Point/Post
Member            Rep   Rep/Post  Rep/Day  
Janus              927  12.6986   14.4844
HappytheStripper   431   6.2464    5.0116
TheFaithfulStone  2541   4.5456    6.5490
 
By Rep Point/Day
Member            Rep   Rep/Post  Rep/Day  
RonThePon         1354   1.6005   21.4921
Janus              927  12.6986   14.4844
TheBigDog         4173   2.5648   13.6373

Despite the small pool (12) and 3 races, I’m not on the board in any of them! :(

 

It’s possible that some sort of statistical weighting formula exists to calculate a single “hypography horserace winner” – I’ve played with a few obvious ones, without success.

 

All this said, I’m resolved to ignore the competitive game aspects of the reputation system, and focus on the science – a non-zero-sum game where everyone can win.

[Turtle]

Perhaps the most obvious victory condition for “the hypography game” is having the most Rep Points of any member.

 

...potentially better victory conditions.

 

It’s possible that some sort of statistical weighting formula exists to calculate a single “hypography horserace winner” – I’ve played with a few obvious ones, without success.

 

All this said, I’m resolved to ignore the competitive game aspects of the reputation system, and focus on the science – a non-zero-sum game where everyone can win.

 

 

Sun-tzu said:

In ancient times, those skilled in warfare make themselves invincible and then wait for the enemy to become vulnerable.

Being invincible depends on oneself, but the enemy becoming vulnerable depends on himself.

 

Therefore, those skilled in warfare can make themselves invincible, but cannot necessarily cause the enemy to be vulnerable.

 

Therefore it is said one may know how to win but cannot necessarily do it.

The Art Of War

Chapter Four: Formation

[Jay-qu]

what a weird thread - I had never sat down a read it before, though I did vote on the poll. Pyro did you seriously think orb was a girl? or was that just in jest :wave: wouldnt be the first time :hihi:

 

When I think game I think two things - Fun and Competition. Sure I have fun here but do I think we are competing.. sometimes. You get in a discussion and you want to show your correct, you are competing with facts and figures, testing each others reasons. All just for the fun of it, or do some people want something else from hypo? is so what, fame? just be understood, or want to be heard by someone.

 

infinite questions, finite answers :(

[Turtle]

Another great post CraigD.

But I tend to agree with the unimportance of a "rep race"

 

People who post welcoming introductions, quatrains, and the like are statistically 'diluted' concerning rep per post.

 

Rac

 

Æsop said:

One hot summer's day a fox was strolling through an orchard

'till she came to a bunch of grapes just ripening on a vine which

had been trained over a lofty branch. "Just the thing to quench

my thirst," quoth she. Drawing back a few paces, she took a run and

a jump, and just missed the bunch. Turning round again with a

one, two, three, she jumped up, but with no greater success. Again

and again she tried after the tempting morsel, but at last had to

give it up, and walked away with her nose in the air, saying: "I

am sure they are sour."

[TheBigDog]

Fascinating analysis Craig. Another thing to note is that those people who were members when the rep system first started have received many more reps than those of us who came later, but at a much lower return per hit. When the highest rep anyone had was 25, it would take almost 8 acknowledgements to equal a single "Brotherly Conduct" today. Now there are nine of us over 100 rep, with a whole slew of people in the 30 to 60 range. Newer members are bound to have a higher ratio than older members because the playing field is not the same.

 

If I may use a baseball analogy Craig, you are the most under rated person on this site. Your posts are always among the highest in quality and your rep with me is simply unsurpassed.

 

And finally a gripe on the statistical methods...:hihi: I Joined in August of last year, but didn't make my first post until December 24th. My points/day should be higher! ;)

 

Bill

[IDMclean]

I play to lose, I lose to win, I win to share. I share to grok. All that groks is divine, and all that is divine is one who is I am

 

I am one who is I am. Therefore I am godhead, losing the game, so that others may win. In losing I win, and in winning I share. That I am of those who are, and we are those who I am, means that my grokking is your grokking, and a step towards transendence of the limitations of the two, into the two as one.

 

Remember, it's not important weather you win or lose, it's only important that you played the game at all.

 

-Fools speak foolishness which confounds the wise, and might makes right, which I am not, therefore I am meek, so surely my meakness confounds the mighty. Does this mean then, that we shall inherit the earth?

KickAssClown, Fool is as fool does.

[Turtle]

I play to lose, I lose to win, I win to share. I share to grok. All that groks is divine, and all that is divine is one who is I am

 

How's that workin' out for ya Klown?:lol: But seriously folks, as I have recently achieved a first of sorts in the game of Hypography I am required by law to make a speech.

Thumbing my nose at the law, I have decided on giving a talk instead. With Humpty Dumpty as my Authority, I declare we shall make the rules say whatever we wish within their limit.

To whit, therefore, & soforth let me say the grapes are indeed sweet, succulent, & grapish beyond mortal description, if not an altogether surprising delight. I came not for fruit, but fruit I have got; came not for gaming, but gaming have found.

Viva la Hypography! Let the games continue!:eek2:

[InfiniteNow]

Another thing to note is that those people who were members when the rep system first started have received many more reps than those of us who came later, but at a much lower return per hit. When the highest rep anyone had was 25, it would take almost 8 acknowledgements to equal a single "Brotherly Conduct" today. Now there are nine of us over 100 rep, with a whole slew of people in the 30 to 60 range. Newer members are bound to have a higher ratio than older members because the playing field is not the same.

Ahhh... I remember, way way back, when only 9 of us were over a measely 100 rep... Gosh, those were the good ole days. How along ago was that... must've been, what, like at least June... or July? :cup::lol::zip:

 

:hihi:

[hallenrm]

Interesting indeed!

 

I have observed that some moderators get most rep/day, even when they hardly ever say anything significant.

 

Looks looks they are being rewarded for sycophancy.

 

Oh! it is something is burning, isn't it? my poor heart!

 

:hihi:

[InfiniteNow]

Or, perhaps they were offered the moderator position since they have such consistently high quality and recognized posts?

 

 

Humbly,

[pgrmdave]

One of the reasons that the mods get a lot of rep is because the mods use the rep system more than most. Since we all tend to get along, and, for the most part, like each other's posting style, we tend to get repped more than many. There is no big conspiracy - if there was, we (the admins) would just alter their rep at will :hihi:

[hallenrm]

Or, perhaps they were offered the moderator position since they have such consistently high quality and recognized posts?

 

 

Humbly,

 

Well, before making that comment I checked the posts! Atleast I could not spot anything extraordinary!

[Mercedes Benzene]

Maybe mods are chosen BECAUSE they are good Hypography users. Rep shows that these people are something special. Existing mods probably look at rep as a method of choosing new potential mods.

Of course I'm an exception (as shown by my rep. :hihi: )

heh.

[InfiniteNow]

Well, before making that comment I checked the posts! Atleast I could not spot anything extraordinary!

Ouch... I feel you just stabbed me in the rib cage. Do you truly feel this way? :hihi: