Greg_G47 Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 I needed a 200 level arts option. I didn't want English or history. So now I have Metaphysics. Universals, particulars, time, persistence, possible worlds. Am I in for the kind of course where you need to bring a shovel --as in a pile of pseudointellectual linguistic nitpicking to "prove" adjectives don't really exist-- or is there something interesting to be learned here? Please reply before the deadline to dump this course. Quote
Turtle Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 ___I suppose it depends a lot on the instructor, his text, style, bias, etc.. If nothing else, it's an exercise in identifying "a pile of pseudointellectual linguistic nitpicking to "prove" adjectives don't really exist-- or is there something interesting to be learned here?"___Take the course & report back. Meta - above; you must rise to the challenge. :hihi: Quote
UncleAl Posted August 24, 2005 Report Posted August 24, 2005 No, you won't need a shovel. You'll need http://wrongcrowd.com/article.php?story=20050131105404637 Visit the bookstore, thumb through some of the required texts. Which is the greater miracle, Revealed Truth or your hand calculator? Here, allow Uncle Al to start your term paper: Anybody lacking full cognisance of Western philosophy from Parmenides to Husserl is unqualified to comment. Western culture is intentionally metaphoric. The intended meaning is always texually encoded and never explicitly stated. If you read a Western philosopher and take him at his words, you will be wrong. You are being primitive, irresponsible, and ideologically indefensible. We have entered an epoch in which misconceptions must be discarded in favor of deconstructions. Read Frank Lentricchia... ... and vomit. ( Cast the whole thing in third person. You might want to omit that last line.) Quote
EWright Posted August 24, 2005 Report Posted August 24, 2005 Chances are you are just not in tune with thinking about things in a metaphysical sort of way. This likely means you're generally not interested in things such as physics or cosmology to begin with. I'd recommend some reading or even a DVD from the library dealing with some of these things that will make you think. DVDs to consider are 'A Brief History of Time', 'The Elegant Universe', and 'Einstein: How to See the World." You can also get the audiobook "Fabric of the Cosmos" for free from audible.com. Actually, you get two free audiobook downloads, and they have several good physics/cosmology titles to choose from. Quote
Turtle Posted August 24, 2005 Report Posted August 24, 2005 No, you won't need a shovel. You'll need http://wrongcrowd.com/article.php?story=20050131105404637 Visit the bookstore, thumb through some of the required texts. :___How do you manage to pay 5 guys to operate that Al? ;) (I presume you have one? :hihi: )___Once again, we agree. If you consider love (or disdain) a "thing", then you accept metaphysics as legitimate; a "thing" above or beyond (meta) physical description. That is not the same as saying that in the future love (or disdain) may find desription in physics.___Check out the texts & the prof, & then decide. ___How do you all think Al came by his scooper? By studying the material of course! ;) Quote
UncleAl Posted August 24, 2005 Report Posted August 24, 2005 How do you all think Al came by his scooper? By studying the material of course!Genius isn't knowing everything, genius is knowing where to find it. Civilization discovered mechanical prostheses with the Industrial Revolution. It was then possible to manufacture almost anything, hence the question "what is worth manufacturing?" A lot of crap got manufactured, and still is. Digital electronics plus the Internet, search engines, and mass storage like DvDs allow us to consider almost anything, hence the question "what is worth thinking?" As with manufacture, there is a mountain of crap contingent to the ability to ponder. Successful gardening is not just about planting, watering, and fertilizing. It also includes weeding, pruning, and pulling stumps. Science has gotten there, philosophy has not. Quote
Turtle Posted August 24, 2005 Report Posted August 24, 2005 Successful gardening is not just about planting, watering, and fertilizing. It also includes weeding, pruning, and pulling stumps. Science has gotten there, philosophy has not.___A weed is no great problem in its pulling (of course a weed is just a plant in a place you don't want it :hihi: ), but a stump requires considerable effort. Whether one intends to grind, dig, or pull a stump, the studied assessment of its stumpitude is advanticious.___The reflection of a stump, is not the stump; a stump in the fog is still a stump. Quote
Turtle Posted August 25, 2005 Report Posted August 25, 2005 ___Earn your opinion; read. :hihi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphysics http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertrand_Russell Quote
Qfwfq Posted August 30, 2005 Report Posted August 30, 2005 Successful gardening is not just about planting, watering, and fertilizing. It also includes weeding, pruning, and pulling stumps. Science has gotten there, philosophy has not.Sounds like you don't know the meaning of 'philosophy', its history and relation with science. If anything, it's contemporary philosophy that pulls less weeds. Quote
emessay Posted September 19, 2005 Report Posted September 19, 2005 Simply we define metaphysic map that probably now 'we' are alone at the center as 'observer' : Space<-----------( :hihi: )----------->Time Mass<------------( :hihi: )----------------------------------------->Energy Sometime people say that 'we' are now at 'the cross' space-time and mass-energy, sometime other people say that 'we' are now at 'the top' of pyramid of universe. Quote
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