Wizdumb Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 I'm writing to you now to spread the word about some inventions i've been working on. I don't know if they will work, but the idea will fully manifest more quickly if more people work on it. I'm not asking for assistance, simply sharing the ideas. I do hope someone experiments further with the ideas or spreads them to someone who will. On to the inventions. All of the inventions/ideas serve more or less the same purpose and they revolve around the use of magnets. The purpose is energy. I've come up with a few designs which might work to generate electricity, produce mechanical energy, and improve certain kinds of energy efficiency. Idea #1: This one is mainly for improving energy efficiency. Basically, what you do is connect things not by physical means, but magnetic. You can do it with either attraction or repulsion. The idea is when you connect things magnetically, it uses magnetic force/energy to move the object instead of physical force/energy. Of course, the magnetic force has to be enough to move the object in question. The key to making this work is using magnets of different strengths. The magnet(s) doing the pushing or pulling need to be more powerful than the magnet(s) being pushed or pulled. Idea #2: This idea requires magnets, tubes, and springs. A see-saw mechanism could be used in addition or in compliment. For the basic design, picture two magnets in a tube, seperated by a spring. As the magnets attract each other, the spring compresses. When the spring's compression overcomes the magnetic attraction, the magnets are pushed apart. They then get pulled back together by the magnetic attraction and then pushed away again by the spring. Essentially, the process would continue indefinitely. With this device, you could potentially generate both mechanical and electrical energy. Idea #3: This one is similar to #2, but it is aimed at producing large amounts of electricity. For this, you use the same sort of 'magnet in a tube' setup. You could also use multiple magnets, springs, and seesaws, depending on what is needed to make it work. But, with this one there is a seperate device attached to one of the magnets in the tube. I don't know exactly what the device is called but i'll post some links at the end which will help. Basically, when you spin it, the string portion compresses, or pulls in, which pulls the magnet it's attached to. So all that's really required is to pull the magnet back in the other direction, which causes the device to spin all the way around. Which you can do by using a magnet behind the magnet attached to the string, and in addition, with the seesaw. The back and forth spinning of the device goes on indefinitely, provided you pull on it hard enough and at the right time, and let up enough when it's spinning back and forth. It's really very simple to see what i'm talking about if you try the device itself. It's an easy device to make if you can't find one to buy (they are sold as toys). Of course, the spinning device would be in the core, generating electricity. On a side note, the seesaw device is useful for fine tuning, among other things. Basically, the idea is to attach a magnet to each end of the seesaw. The magnets each have their own tube. In the ends of the tubes, you can either use springs or magnets or whatever else. All of these devices can be made any size and they are incredibly inexpensive to produce. Of course, the energy produced is all perfectly clean. What needs to be determined at this point is do they work, and how much energy can we get out of them. With all this gas craze, hopefully these machines can provide an energy solution and get in production ASAP. But don't tell the oil companies, or they might assassinate us all. :hihi: Here are some links for the device in #3: [edit] Wow, I just noticed there's a thread right here in the physics forum about this particular device. Guess you guys already have a good grasp on it. :D "http://users.bigpond.net.au/mechtoys/button.html""http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2004/03/19.html""http://hypography.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-1228.html""http://www.kiravan.com/YAKUTSK.htm""http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6482137.html""http://www.things2make.com/Things2make_files/Instructions%20over%205/Spinning%20Disk.htm""http://www.heard.org/rain/science/spincolr.html""http://www.slpl.lib.mo.us/kidzone/stuff/wailer.htm""http://www.drliew.net/archives/000864.html""http://www.philhine.org.uk/writings/rit_jinx.html" I would include a drawing to assist my descriptions, but unfortunately i'm not allowed. I hope the descriptions are good enough to get you started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleAl Posted August 24, 2005 Report Share Posted August 24, 2005 http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/unwork.htm Perpetual motion machines Uncle Al says, "ACK! THBBFT!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boerseun Posted August 24, 2005 Report Share Posted August 24, 2005 There's a reason why perpetual motion machines don't work. It's called the Second Law of Thermodynamics, and we're all slaves to it. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockytriton Posted August 24, 2005 Report Share Posted August 24, 2005 Well, if you want to try patent your ideas you will need a working prototype. Here at the patent office they stopped accepting patent applications for perpetual motion machines a long time ago, unless accompanied by a working prototype. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alxian Posted August 24, 2005 Report Share Posted August 24, 2005 even with a provable prototype you're unlikely to be heard once you mention a red herring such as "time machie" or "perpetual motion machine". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAHD Posted August 25, 2005 Report Share Posted August 25, 2005 #2 & #3 won't work simply because the springs and magnets will reach equilibrium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qfwfq Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 With this device, you could potentially generate both mechanical and electrical energy.Nope, at best you can reduce dissipation to epsilon > zero. Strange Claims Forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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