Freemasons

[dirty.deeds]

Out of interest:

 

What would you hope to gain by joining?

 

Boerseun

 

 

It's worthwhile joining in the uk...a membership ammounts to the same as a get out of jail free card in monopoly...there has been years and years of the police and criminals abusing there membership..Which is well documented over the years in both the press,in various books and on the net..

The basis is that if you make yourself known to another member in a police interview..the officer has a duty to help you in your 'hour of need'.. One of the most noted cases was one that involved Kenny Noye...He was involved in the brinks mat bullion case..He disposed of the gold..He used his masonic connections to keep an eye on what the police were doing in relation to himself..so he could keep one step ahead of the investigation into himself..

[chatlack]

=) You must be powerfull to be invited to masons. You can get bussiness connections by giving connections. :eek_big: Its a chain...

 

And I think most of them are inside all governments , giving orders to become more powerfull.

 

As we come to the "girls" subject, they want strict and "man of a few words" people. Most women are more emotional than men, but they can get every powerfull living inside. İmportant thing is to be able to be a powerfull chain peace...

[UncleAl]

Mozart had a field day with Freemasons in his Magic Flute. OTOH, Freemasonry is a single thread of honor, ethics, and respect for knowledge in a world's history of rape, pillage, hate, and willful ignorance. OTOH, Freemasonry gave rise to Mormons, so call it a push overall. "8^>)

 

(Missionaries stopped coming around after Uncle Al met them at the door while wearing a wonderously horrible Halloween latex mask, in March. It was either that, or the guy next door who answered the door starkers. Religious nutcases are neutralized with laughter. All they really have is their dignity. Ablate it.)

[rockytriton]

Is there really a connection between Freemasonry and Mormons? God I hope not. Also, chatlack, you can't be invited into the Masons, you must ask a mason, then they will decide whether to let you join.

[Qfwfq]

The masons were originally the bourgoisie rising against the aristocracy, that's why the tradition of being so covert and closed, they had to really watch out. This was also a reason for keeping it away from the women, they trusted them less with their typically more emotional character. It was all part of the same historic process as the enlightenment, the French and American revolutions and other ferment that was ongoing.

 

The whole thing has become somewhat aberrated since those days, if it wasn't already aberrated then, by the fact that it necessarily had to be sectarian, with all the secrecy and initiation rituality.

 

Mozart had a field day with Freemasons in his Magic Flute.

Mozart composed the music. It was Schikaneder that wrote the libretto. I hardly doubt Wolfy was also a member of them, at the very least a sympathiser.

[rockytriton]

Yes, Schikaneder was the one, but Mozart was a mason as well, since 1784

[hiddenlodge]

who knows

some say that they have power to rule like gods but I seriously doubt that

but there is indeed a legend behind them all

[Moontanman]

I know several free masons, my son has asked to join and they said yes. My father in law is a Mason of some high degree, grand poopa or something but they are all just regular guys from what I've sen. They like to party and have a good time. They have relatively cool funeral services. I was stranded out of town with a group of friends riding motorcycles and none of the hotels would let us in until we found one run by a Mason, one of the guys was a Mason they exchanged secrete hand shakes or something we were treated like kings from then on. Can't be all bad.

[hiddenlodge]

brotherhood that's how they called themselves, hiding behind money exploiting those at the bottom who have nothing and if you are useless they will enslave minds with Sci-Fi movies or reality shows to make sure none of the below go against the flow

 

? who am I to speak in his name

stay tune for -post17-

ma vengence est fraichement sortie du congelateur

[Moontanman]

brotherhood that's how they called themselves, hiding behind money exploiting those at the bottom who have nothing and if you are useless they will enslave minds with Sci-Fi movies or reality shows to make sure none of the below go against the flow

 

? who am I to speak in his name

stay tune for -post17-

ma vengence est fraichement sortie du congelateur

 

What do Science Fiction movies and reality television have any thing to with mind control or free masons.

[CraigD]

brotherhood that's how they called themselves, hiding behind money exploiting those at the bottom who have nothing and if you are useless they will enslave minds with Sci-Fi movies or reality shows to make sure none of the below go against the flow

Hiddenlodge, can you support these accusation? Are you or have you ever been a Mason, or can you cite such an accusation from a credible source, such as a active or lapsed Mason, or a journalist?

 

My great grandfather, grandfather, and uncle were Masons. Two of my closest friends are Masons. None of them were or are wealthy, nor unusually adept at exploiting or enslaving anyone, although my friends are pretty expert in the subject of SF novels and movies. Membership in a Masonic lodge was very important to my grandfather and uncle, as the availability of free care in an excellent Masonic hospital when my grandfather was found to have incurable brain cancer protected his modest financial estate, allowing my grandmother to sell her house and gift the money to my uncle, who was able to use it to make a substantial down payment on his first house.

 

Although Masonic rituals are secret, in the sense that they are not open to non-Masons, and Masons are not supposed to describe to non-Masons, they are nonetheless fairly well known, because some Masons have ignored their oaths of secrecy and written about them. Some of these references are very good Mackey’s “Encyclopedia of Freemasonry”, while over a century old and written an encyclopedia, and thus poorly suited to narrative reading, remains a respected reference, while Regarde’s “Golden Dawn”, while covering many more esoteric traditions than Masonry, is also good. It’s important to note that Masonic traditions vary considerably between major traditions, nations, and to some extent, regions within nations and individual lodges within the same tradition and region.

 

If you are an adult, male, “in good standing in your community” – typically, have a job, own a home, not have been arrested within sight of you neighbors, etc. – know a Mason willing to sponsor you, and are able to make a good impression on the members of a Masonic lodge, you can become a Mason – though if as few as a single member of the lodge (depending on that lodge’s rules) disapproves of you, your candidacy may be rejected. Because it requires sincere respect for and participation in rituals which are, from many rational perspective, silly and superstitious, Masonry is not for everyone – but from my experience with many Masons, it’s certainly not a strange cult, nor an organization bent on brainwashing, world domination, or many of the other traits I’ve heard attributed to it.