Trump Has Right, The Jewish Settlements Are Legal

[Thoth101]

Did any of you consider why Nazi Germany was over thrown and the separate issue why the Jews have some sympathy around the world. Russia was an ally until the end of the war, and they also killed lots of Jews. World war 2 was not about the Jews, it was about a state over throwing other states who had extremely powerful allies. 

 

If the Jews arriving in Palestine after WW2 had integrated with the Palestinian population there would not be a problem today. They might even be sharing power peacefully with the Palestinans.

 

Being anti Israeli Policy does not make anyone anti Jewish. There are Jews that are also anti Israeli policy. Israeli policy changes with Political party does this mean all the opposition politicians are anti Semitic.  

 

America is Israels greatest ally and likely has sympathies with Israel as it is a new country whose settlers had to fight of the Palestinian inhabitants. Not unlike the wild west where the settlers fought of the locals, pushing them onto reservations.

 

The only peaceful resolution is to reunite Palestine and Israel, forming a new government consisting of elected representatives from both sides. 

 

Committing genocide in Palestine, could escalate to nuclear war, resulting in the complete destruction of Israel and ALL its religious sites. Perhaps Israel would like to take out Mecca as well, and if maybe in this holy war Pakistan might take out the Vatican whilst the war is going on. 

 

Anyone who isnt a fan of religion, might protest on humanitarian grounds, against nuclear powers destroying the worlds religious sites. But if one country has committed genocide against another why the **** we give a ****. 

 

Very well said. I want to add that a ton of US tax payer dollars go to Israel. If I could vote on it I would vote not to give Israel anymore money. I am tired of them mooching off of us and freeloading off of us. The only reason they are an alley to the US is because all these Christians in America think Israel is god's land and Jewish people are god's chosen people. It is just a big scam with the religion and American people.

[Thoth101]

This is interesting:

 

Even groups that fell outside of the shared Jewish population cluster identified by PCA such as Ethiopian Beta Israel, Yemenite, Indian Bene Israel, and Indian Cochin Jews, formed their own subclusters indicating that they were distinct, homogeneous populations. On the nearest-neighbor-joining tree, the Yemenite Jews were on a branch between Palestinians and Bedouins, and the Ethiopian Beta Israel Jews were on a distinctive distal branch. Uniparental genome region analysis provided additional insights, for example, supporting male predominant Middle East Jewish origins for the Bene Israel population (Behar et al. 2010).

 

The closest genetic neighbors to most Jewish groups were the Palestinians, Israeli Bedouins, and Druze in addition to the Southern Europeans, including Cypriots. The genetic clusters formed by each of these non-Jewish Middle Eastern groups reflect their own histories of endogamy. Their proximity to one another and to European and Syrian Jews suggested a shared genetic history of related Semitic and non-Semitic Mediterranean ancestors who followed different religious and tribal affiliations. Earlier studies of Israeli Jewish, Palestinian and Druze populations made a similar observation by demonstrating the proximity of these two non-Jewish populations to Ashkenazi and Iraqi Jews (Rosenberg et al. 2001; Kopelman et al.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3543766/

[Vmedvil2]

I don't care about all that, I just want someone to take charge in the Middle East, I am sick of America having the eternally having to hold the Middle East's hand. I don't give a **** who does it just that we no longer have to babysit the religion, I would prefer Israel to someone like Iran but someone needs to grow some balls and conquer that region of the world. America should not have to be in the Middle East and deal with the problems of that region, it is so far removed from America that someone that actually lives in the region should do it, but none the less we are involved because we have to kill Palestinian terrorism groups because no will will deal with them that lives in the shithole we call the Middle East. Why should America and Russia who lives half way across the world have to deal with and conquer the Middle East? Buck up and go shoot the Palestinians like the US does Israel WTF, we supplied you with our aircraft,guns, and nuclear weapons use them....

 

"The United States is the largest single supplier of military equipment to Israel. According to the U.S. Congressional Research Service, between 1998–2005 the U.S. accounted for the vast majority of Israel's arms transfer agreements, accounting for $9.1 billion out of $9.5 billion worth of agreements."

 

so Iran is launching missiles at Israel then launch nuclear missiles back at them, no one would give a ****. Like the US cannot do that to Russia because they have nuclear weapons too however Iran doesn't just end them before they get them or you will be stuck with Iran like we are stuck with Russia.

 

 

"The United States conducted its first nuclear test explosion in July 1945 and dropped two atomic bombs on the cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in August 1945. Just four years later, the Soviet Union conducted its first nuclear test explosion."

 

 We are stuck with Russia but Israel doesn't have to be stuck with Iran.

 

 

Luckily the actual Israeli government is not as much of cowards as the people on this forum(https://www.newsweek.com/iran-step-fight-iran-ready-respond-1489354 and https://www.vox.com/2020/2/28/21156286/netanyahu-new-israeli-settlement-expansion-evict-bedouin-residents-e1).

Edited February 29, 2020 by VictorMedvil

[Thoth101]

An American Pulitzer prize winner whose name I have forgotten. Told me a long time ago, if you want to see what is wrong with US international policy, all you need to do is look at the make up of the senate. You are probably aware the Jewish representation in the US senate is disproportionately high. But then people get what they are stupid enough to vote for, perhaps the Jewish lobby groups, have more funding than other senators.  https://forward.com/fast-forward/417047/congress-is-now-3-times-more-jewish-than-united-states-as-a-whole/

 

Edit who are the Ashkenazi?

 

That is true you are correct. And just look how much of the US citizens tax dollars are sent to Israel while we have homeless people in the streets and infrastructure and roads falling apart. Also I will dig into the Ashkenazi in another post. It's utterly ridiculous. And it don't matter who is voted for the funding never stops.

 

This report provides an overview of U.S. foreign assistance to Israel. It includes a review of past aid programs, data on annual assistance, and analysis of current issues. For general information on Israel, see Israel: Background and U.S. Relations in Brief, by Jim Zanotti.

Israel is the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign assistance since World War II. To date, the United States has provided Israel $142.3 billion (current, or noninflation-adjusted, dollars) in bilateral assistance and missile defense funding. Almost all U.S. bilateral aid to Israel is in the form of military assistance, although from 1971 to 2007 Israel also received significant economic assistance. 

 

In 2016, the U.S. and Israeli governments signed a new 10-year Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) on military aid, covering FY2019 to FY2028. Under the terms of the MOU, the United States pledges to provide $38 billion in military aid ($33 billion in Foreign Military Financing grants plus $5 billion in missile defense appropriations) to Israel. This MOU replaced a previous $30 billion 10-year agreement, which ran through FY2018.

Israel is the first international operator of the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, the Department of Defense’s fifth-generation stealth aircraft, considered to be the most technologically advanced fighter jet ever made. To date, Israel has purchased 50 F-35s in three separate contracts.

 

P.L. 116-6, the Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2019, provides the following for Israel:

 $3.3 billion in Foreign Military Financing (FMF), of which $815.3 million is for off-shore procurement;  $5 million in Migration and Refugee Assistance (MRA) for refugee resettlement  $2 million in a homeland security grant;  Reauthorization of U.S. loan guarantees to Israel through September 30, 2023; and  Reauthorization of War Reserve Stock Allies-Israel (WRSA-I) through Sept 30, 2020.

 

P.L. 115-245, the Department of Defense and Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education Appropriations Act, 2019 and Continuing Appropriations Act, 2019, provides the following for Israel:

 $500 million in missile defense, of which $70 million is for Iron Dome, $187 million for David’s Sling, $80 million for Arrow 3, and $163 million for Arrow 2. For FY2020, the Trump Administration requested $3.3 billion in FMF for Israel and $500 million in missile defense aid to mark the second year of the MOU. The Administration also requested $5 million in MRA humanitarian funding for migrants to Israel. 

 

This comes from:

Congressional Research Service

crsreports.congress.gov

RL33222

August 7 2019

 

Edited February 29, 2020 by Thoth101

[Thoth101]

An American Pulitzer prize winner whose name I have forgotten. Told me a long time ago, if you want to see what is wrong with US international policy, all you need to do is look at the make up of the senate. You are probably aware the Jewish representation in the US senate is disproportionately high. But then people get what they are stupid enough to vote for, perhaps the Jewish lobby groups, have more funding than other senators.  https://forward.com/fast-forward/417047/congress-is-now-3-times-more-jewish-than-united-states-as-a-whole/

 

Edit who are the Ashkenazi?

Importantly, the initial genetic analyses suggested in this first publication incorrectly attributed this Ashkenazi Levite lineage’s origin to Eastern Europe¹⁸. A follow up study, summarizing information from whole Y chromosome sequencing, focused specifically on this Ashkenazi Levite lineage and confirmed that that 65% of the 97 randomly assembled Ashkenazi Levites carried haplogroup R1a-M198²⁰. Strikingly, the better resolved whole Y chromosome based phylogeny of haplogroup R1a, showed that 100% of these samples could be reassigned to the refined haplogroup R1a-M582. This distinctive R1a-M582 lineage was found, other than in Ashkenazi Jews, among 15.7% males self-affiliating as non-Ashkenazi Levites and, importantly, at low frequencies only in the Middle East, consistent with this location as its ancestral origin²⁰.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5668307/

[Thoth101]

You will be aware if America and more historically Europe had not messed around in the Politics of the middle east, during recent history. It likely would be a stable region now. A good part of the history of the middle east, america  and europe is driven by religious **** wits that want to expand their influence globally. The Old testament based religions are at the heart of much of the worlds problems. 

 

Americas support of Israel is based on religious grounds. If it was a bunch of Africans fighting each other for no other reason than hatred, or starving. America would not have funded their war, or famine since about 1946.

 

After WW2 many displaced Jews did not want to go back to where they were displaced from, ie most of europe, a large number went to Palestine. Which was initially controlled by the English, the Palestinians became alarmed at the number of Jewish immigrants arriving in Palestine and started protesting. So the English tried to stop the migration/exodus from europe. Due to Political pressure, the English withdrew from Palestine, leaving a power vacuum. The Jewish immigrantion then increased again and they went to war with the Palestinians, ultimately winding up with what we have today. After the declaration of the state of Israel,America was the first to acknowledge its existence, many countries did not for some time, they wanted political solutions. Ever since this time America has been funding the state of Israel, like an outpost of America. Without outside interference in middle east politics from outside powers, they would have had there little genocides years ago, and would likely be living in peace now. 

 

If history was to be repeated and America had not recognized the state of Israel and the rest of the world had insisted they come to a political solution with the Palestinians. They would be living in peace, and likely would have out bread the Palestinians and had a electoral majority and control the government. 

 

If America and the rest of the world stopped messing with other countries policies based on religion the world would be a better place. The world does not need controlling by a dictator/world power/police man based on dubious religious practices. 

 

I am American and I totally agree. Very well put and well said. Most Americans that are informed want no part of this and we do not want to be in the Middle East or give any money to Israel. But like I said informed Americans which is not a lot. I would say maybe 5 to 10 percent of Americans really know or care what is going on. Most are mind controlled servants and enjoy their servitude and or Christian nutjobs that have been brainwashed into the scam of Zionism.

 

I also suggest taking a look at the Rothschild family and how they were a part of putting this new Israel together. A term used is Rothschild Zionist.

Edited February 29, 2020 by Thoth101

[Thoth101]

One of Hitlers problems with the Jews, was the amount of influence they had in Germany. The Rothschilds in particular were very influential being one of the Richest families in the world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_family With a minority group controlling the power in a country, in this case the Jews in Germany prior to WW2, and after the recession fueled by punitive measures on germany after WW1, you can see how Hitler came to power and why the Jewish minority many of whom had no power or little influence in German politics were marginalized, and removed.

 

Hitler could very easily play on the heart strings of people and use the Jews as scape goats, and then clear them out of his country, by what ever means possible.

 

A similar thing could happen in other countries of the world, history has a habit of repeating itself.

 

Playing with the above idea > An anti-Trump might get elected who might view the Jews in the senate as having too much power, not unlike Hitler did. Trump might even turn on them, as a political target, and scape goat. Would America then evolve in the same direction as Nazi Germany? How easy is it to manipulate people views via the media, and control the mob? are people better educated these days, do they think with their heads or hearts. 

 

In the UK did anyone voting for Brexit think with their heads. I ****ing doubt it. People are in general cretins, who get the leaders they deserve.

 

Yes and you make very good points. At this point I think America is a lot like Germany just before Hitler took over. On the other hand the thing is the US has a base on just about every part of the planet. It isn't hard to see it is mostly a one world government now with the US as the global police. The Powers That Be don't even need a Hitler like person because the take over of the world has already been done. Nazi Germany may have just been a practice run for the Powers That Be. I am sure you know where all the Nazi scientist went.

[Vmedvil2]

You will be aware if America and more historically Europe had not messed around in the Politics of the middle east, during recent history. It likely would be a stable region now. A good part of the history of the middle east, america  and europe is driven by religious **** wits that want to expand their influence globally. The Old testament based religions are at the heart of much of the worlds problems. 

 

Americas support of Israel is based on religious grounds. If it was a bunch of Africans fighting each other for no other reason than hatred, or starving. America would not have funded their war, or famine since about 1946.

 

After WW2 many displaced Jews did not want to go back to where they were displaced from, ie most of europe, a large number went to Palestine. Which was initially controlled by the English, the Palestinians became alarmed at the number of Jewish immigrants arriving in Palestine and started protesting. So the English tried to stop the migration/exodus from europe. Due to Political pressure, the English withdrew from Palestine, leaving a power vacuum. The Jewish immigrantion then increased again and they went to war with the Palestinians, ultimately winding up with what we have today. After the declaration of the state of Israel,America was the first to acknowledge its existence, many countries did not for some time, they wanted political solutions. Ever since this time America has been funding the state of Israel, like an outpost of America. Without outside interference in middle east politics from outside powers, they would have had there little genocides years ago, and would likely be living in peace now. 

 

If history was to be repeated and America had not recognized the state of Israel and the rest of the world had insisted they come to a political solution with the Palestinians. They would be living in peace, and likely would have out bread the Palestinians and had a electoral majority and control the government. 

 

If America and the rest of the world stopped messing with other countries policies based on religion the world would be a better place. The world does not need controlling by a dictator/world power/police man based on dubious religious practices. 

But the world is as it is and people do mess around in the affairs of others, so in light of that, the Jewish guard dog that we call Israel should go and kill some Palestinians. America is sick of killing the Palestinians for Israel maybe they should step up and conquer that entire region. The US will obviously sell them weapons to do it with.

Edited February 29, 2020 by VictorMedvil

[Vmedvil2]

Governments do mess around in the affairs of other governments, that is a fact. It is not always for the benefit of the people being governed by the governments. Generally people are the same the world over. People always find a way to have fun, regardless of the leaders they have either elected or are foisted on them.

 

Most of the worlds Jews live outside Israel. So when you are talking about Jews are you talking about Israeli Jews or Jews globally. Many none Jewish people also live in Israel. 

 

Israel has borders with Jordan, Egypt,  Syria and Lebanon as well as the remaining Palestinian regions (West Bank, and Gaza strip) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Palestine The state of Palestine is officially recognized by the UN, which includes the US and the USSR. If Israel was to attack all the other countries with a view to conquering the whole region (not unike Hitler in europe). The UN would try to intervene, there would be sanctions, and any lingering sympathy people might have towards the Jews because of the Holocaust, might vanish. Currently Iran seems to have the strongest military and are quite fanatically anti American, and being Islamic are not fond of the Israelis, mainly due to the Palestine issue.

 

America supported the Shah of Iran, who was dictator. You may have liked him. his torture chambers were quite well used, I understand. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_the_Imperial_State_of_Iran

 

In any war zone people make money from selling weapons. It could even be good business to destabilize a region, and cause small scale wars. Why not make a bit of money out of the war. You could always charge for your assistance and provide military and war ships, that might take decades to pay off. (Unrelated general info Britain for example did not finish paying of its war debt to America for all the ships and stuff until 2006) Countries do not fight along side allies for free!

 

Playing:(

Iran has its own,Corona germ warfare at the moment, they are currently not restricting travel to and from their country. Maybe now would be a politically good time to nuke em, as they do not yet got nuclear bombs, and it could stop the Corona outbreak spreading across the middleast, and the rest of the world     Maybe you might think this is a sensible suggestion   Most wouldnt!

 

Jordan is a small state, and does not threaten or have any claim on Israel. Why do you think Israel might want to attack Jordan, or what provocation could Israel use as a reason to attack Jordan?  Having armies move around battlefields blowing each other to bits, leads to a win lose solution, but when an army is faced with over whelming opposition, the sensible option is to employ gorilla tactics,which could drag on for years. I dont think Israel could win a gorilla war spread over the entire middle east, and since most people just want to have a happy life, I doubt the Israelis would have the stomach for a drawn out war, which could result in the destruction of the state of Israel.

 

The Jews are famed for being tight fisted(frugal), they might not like a war debt with the rest of the world, that might take them a few life times to pay off. War is not free, it is best to get your allies to fight for you and keep your heads down.

 

If you were frugal and could take over another countries government, to get them to fight on your behalf paying for everything, this might be the cheapest way of having a war. Oh ****! have already done it, who runs America  :shocked:  (that little conspiracy took a lot of effort, time for a drink)

I am the Autarch of America, your favorite scientific dictator     ..... Now back to smoking some Devil's Weed Church hills. 

 

One should not inquire into how one obtains the Devil's Weed..... but if you want some Devil's Weed, Link = https://www.cigarsinternational.com/p/devils-weed-connecticut-cigars/2013582/

Edited March 1, 2020 by VictorMedvil

[Thoth101]

But the world is as it is and people do mess around in the affairs of others, so in light of that, the Jewish guard dog that we call Israel should go and kill some Palestinians. America is sick of killing the Palestinians for Israel maybe they should step up and conquer that entire region. The US will obviously sell them weapons to do it with.

 

There is this to back up what you are saying about selling weapons.

https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp90-00965r000402760020-4

 

The thing is the US already funds a lot of Israel's military. So even the US tax payers are guilty of funding Israel for the treatment of the Palestinians.

[Thoth101]

Governments do mess around in the affairs of other governments, that is a fact. It is not always for the benefit of the people being governed by the governments. Generally people are the same the world over. People always find a way to have fun, regardless of the leaders they have either elected or are foisted on them.

 

Most of the worlds Jews live outside Israel. So when you are talking about Jews are you talking about Israeli Jews or Jews globally. Many none Jewish people also live in Israel. 

 

Israel has borders with Jordan, Egypt,  Syria and Lebanon as well as the remaining Palestinian regions (West Bank, and Gaza strip) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Palestine The state of Palestine is officially recognized by the UN, which includes the US and the USSR. If Israel was to attack all the other countries with a view to conquering the whole region (not unike Hitler in europe). The UN would try to intervene, there would be sanctions, and any lingering sympathy people might have towards the Jews because of the Holocaust, might vanish. Currently Iran seems to have the strongest military and are quite fanatically anti American, and being Islamic are not fond of the Israelis, mainly due to the Palestine issue.

 

America supported the Shah of Iran, who was dictator. You may have liked him. his torture chambers were quite well used, I understand. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_the_Imperial_State_of_Iran

 

In any war zone people make money from selling weapons. It could even be good business to destabilize a region, and cause small scale wars. Why not make a bit of money out of the war. You could always charge for your assistance and provide military and war ships, that might take decades to pay off. (Unrelated general info Britain for example did not finish paying of its war debt to America for all the ships and stuff until 2006) Countries do not fight along side allies for free!

 

Playing:(

Iran has its own,Corona germ warfare at the moment, they are currently not restricting travel to and from their country. Maybe now would be a politically good time to nuke em, as they do not yet got nuclear bombs, and it could stop the Corona outbreak spreading across the middleast, and the rest of the world     Maybe you might think this is a sensible suggestion   Most wouldnt!

 

Jordan is a small state, and does not threaten or have any claim on Israel. Why do you think Israel might want to attack Jordan, or what provocation could Israel use as a reason to attack Jordan?  Having armies move around battlefields blowing each other to bits, leads to a win lose solution, but when an army is faced with over whelming opposition, the sensible option is to employ gorilla tactics,which could drag on for years. I dont think Israel could win a gorilla war spread over the entire middle east, and since most people just want to have a happy life, I doubt the Israelis would have the stomach for a drawn out war, which could result in the destruction of the state of Israel.

 

The Jews are famed for being tight fisted(frugal), they might not like a war debt with the rest of the world, that might take them a few life times to pay off. War is not free, it is best to get your allies to fight for you and keep your heads down.

 

If you were frugal and could take over another countries government, to get them to fight on your behalf paying for everything, this might be the cheapest way of having a war. Oh ****! have already done it, who runs America  :shocked:  (that little conspiracy took a lot of effort, time for a drink)

 

I can agree on mostly of what you said. However are you suggesting Iran was the one that put out the Corona virus? Though it wouldn't surprise me if the Powers That Be wouldn't blame the Corona Virus on Iran so the Cabal can invade which they have wanted to for a long time. One reason being they aren't part of the Rothschild banking system. I also wouldn't be surprised if Iran does have Nuclear weapons. It is a vast country and who knows what they have underground. Also I don't think nuking anybody is a very good solution for anybody. Really humans should not even have nukes in the first place.

[Thoth101]

You did not understand me, I was playing/joking.

 

However 

 

I was not suggesting Iran developed the Corona virus, I was suggesting now that they have it, and are doing little to, or nothing to control its spread from with in their borders they are being irresponsible. This was in order to play on Victors predilection for solving disagreements with violence or genocide. 

 

Ref Nukes, I dont think Iran has them, but am pretty sure they have enough money/oil if threatened enough to get them. Pakistan has nukes its not using, and they dont have a lot of oil. Why not trade and make some profit like the rest of the worlds arms dealing countries. The Shah traded for weapons with America and it might be sensible in view of an elevated threat level for the Iranians to want to retaliate if attacked. There is no conventional military force in the middle east that would be stupid enough to attack them? Similarly with Israel there is no conventional military force stupid enough to attack them, unless they deliberately want over throwing, and occupying by Israeli forces.

 

The only real solution in Israel/Palestine is a political one, whereby they share power and territory. Those people need to chill out! The take over of Palestine by the Israelis, is an historic injustice carried out by now dead people. The crimes of the parents are not the responsibility of the children. The people in Palestine/Israel need to forget the past and work towards a common good future, rather than be indoctrinated/programmed into the mind sets of their parents and carry on hating each other. Some compensation/beneficial trade deals towards the Palestinians might be in order, to smooth things over. Maybe make it a tax free financial trading centre, where the Rothschilds or other international financiers would love to do business. 

 

Sorry for my misunderstanding. It is good to have some humor. :)

 

I guess I am not overall to concerned with the corona virus. The way I look at it, it shall pass just like the swine flu and all these other scares in the past. I just wonder what is going on while everyone is dwelling on this corona virus. This is when governments like to push things through when the populace are busy being concerned about something else. So I am concerned with things that are flying under the radar right now. Also I would say keep and eye on the Ides of March.

 

Yes Victor does like his violence and genocide. I guess at least he is honest about it.  

 

I think you are right about the Palestinians and Israelis. And I don't think it is even the normal people themselves that hate each other that much. I think it most part it is the Israel government that is most of the problem. In general people just want to have a family and enjoy life and not hate each other. I haven't researched this part of it that much. But I would say the conflict between the Jewish people and Palestinian people is mostly government created and instigated. I think we all have to realize government rule over the world is a big reason why we as humans fight each other. It's really what keeps us separated and divided.

[Thoth101]

Its always good to alienate a minority group as an enemy, to promote patriotism, and racial/religious purity. 

 

Exactly what the US did to the Native Americans also. It seems those with the biggest guns always win out.

[Vmedvil2]

Exactly what the US did to the Native Americans also. It seems those with the biggest guns always win out.

Pretty much however sometimes those with the larger numbers win, if you don't have a machine gun handy to mow em all down.

 

Edited March 2, 2020 by VictorMedvil

[Thoth101]

Pretty much however sometimes those with the larger numbers win, if you don't have a machine gun handy to mow em all down.

 

 

What is the video doing? It is blocked at my work. Although it does come to mind we did not do very well in Vietnam even with all the firepower and even weather manipulation.