Cdc Admits They Have No Evidence Vaccines Don't Cause Autism

[Thoth101]

What do you all think of this? I am not surprised by the CDC and gov operation.

 

In a stunning lawsuit,CDC admits they have no evidence vaccines don't cause autism.
As of March 2nd,2020, the CDC has admitted in federal court they do not have any evidence proving that vaccines given to babies don't cause autism. An organization called the Informed Consent Network (ICAN) was instrumental in bringing forth this admission.

 

In summer 2019,ICAN submitted a Freedom of Information ACT (FOIA) request to the CDC requesting "All studies relied upon that the DTaP vaccine does not cause autism" ICAN also submitted this same request for HepB, Hib,PCV13 and IPV,as well as requesting the CDC provide studies to support the cumulative exposure to these vaccines during the first 6 months of life do not cause autism. Despite months of demands, the CDC failed to produce a single specific study in response to those FOIA requests. ICAN was therefore forced to sue the CDC in federal court, where the CDC finally conceded, in a stipulation signed by a Federal court judge, that is has no studies to support that any of these vaccines do not cause autism.

 

In short, the CDC provided a list of studies that were to claim vaccines did not cause autism, only, none of these studies proved that. Part of the list was a recent review by the Institute of Medicine (IOM), which was paid for by
the CDC. This study performed a comprehensive review of studies relating to the DTaP vaccine. It was looking to determine whether or not the vaccine does or does not cause autism. The IOM was unable to identify a single study to support that DTaP does not cause autism. What they did find was a single study that did show an association between DTaP and autism So for years, the CDC falsely claimed that "vaccines don't cause autism." This was based on no evidence, no studies, no science,just speculation.

 

You can see the full article at the CE collective evolution website.

 

 

Stipulation-and-Order-Fully-Executed.pdf

[Amplituhedron]

So for years, the CDC falsely claimed that "vaccines don't cause autism."

 

 

I mean, seriously … what???

 

I’m not going to wade through all that legalistic argle-bargle that you just uploaded. I don’t have to.

 

The CDC’s claim is NOT false. Their claim is, that there is no EVIDENCE that vaccines DO cause autism. And this is correct!

 

This is QUITE different from, “There is no proof that vaccines DON’T cause autism.”

 

There is also no evidence that vaccines DON’T cause you to expectorate invisible fairies that go on to spread the corona virus.

 

There is also no evidence that vaccines DON’T cause there to be a teapot that orbits between Mars and Jupiter.

 

There is also no evidence that vaccines DON’T cause God to be the flying spaghetti monster.

 

What this idiocy inverts is the concept of the burden of proof — it lies, not with those who make a negative claim, but with those who make a positive claim.

 

It is not up the CDC to prove that vaccines DON’T cause autism. It is up to someone to prove that they DO.

 

ONE study “found” that vaccines “cause” autism. ONE, and ONLY one. And that study was DEBUNKED, found to be fraudulent, and the doctor who made the “study” was STRIPPED OF HIS MEDICAL LICENSE.

 

Good god, PLEASE don’t spread this vicious nonsense! It is DANGEROUS to do so! Not getting vaccinated KILLS KIDS. Comprende?

[sanctus]

What pisses me most off with this anti-vax bullshit is that:

Unproven risk of autism, which if it were to be proven still does not kill anyone

vs.

Proven babykiller

And then they say they are about saving human race...by going wiht the option of killing babies....

[GAHD]

...This kinda falls in the same camp as "you can't prove there isn't a solid gold tea set on an orbit around the sun." There's no REASON for one to be there, so you're not likely to believe one WOULD be there until someone proves it IS there, but good effing luck proving that very specific claim wrong.

[Vmedvil2]

You need to shoot up straight heroin before having a baby and for the 9 months that they baby is inside the mother. I wonder if that will cause autism?

Link = https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2571530/

 

Edited March 10, 2020 by VictorMedvil

[Vmedvil2]

What do you all think of this? I am not surprised by the CDC and gov operation.

 

In a stunning lawsuit,CDC admits they have no evidence vaccines don't cause autism.

As of March 2nd,2020, the CDC has admitted in federal court they do not have any evidence proving that vaccines given to babies don't cause autism. An organization called the Informed Consent Network (ICAN) was instrumental in bringing forth this admission.

 

In summer 2019,ICAN submitted a Freedom of Information ACT (FOIA) request to the CDC requesting "All studies relied upon that the DTaP vaccine does not cause autism" ICAN also submitted this same request for HepB, Hib,PCV13 and IPV,as well as requesting the CDC provide studies to support the cumulative exposure to these vaccines during the first 6 months of life do not cause autism. Despite months of demands, the CDC failed to produce a single specific study in response to those FOIA requests. ICAN was therefore forced to sue the CDC in federal court, where the CDC finally conceded, in a stipulation signed by a Federal court judge, that is has no studies to support that any of these vaccines do not cause autism.

 

In short, the CDC provided a list of studies that were to claim vaccines did not cause autism, only, none of these studies proved that. Part of the list was a recent review by the Institute of Medicine (IOM), which was paid for by

the CDC. This study performed a comprehensive review of studies relating to the DTaP vaccine. It was looking to determine whether or not the vaccine does or does not cause autism. The IOM was unable to identify a single study to support that DTaP does not cause autism. What they did find was a single study that did show an association between DTaP and autism So for years, the CDC falsely claimed that "vaccines don't cause autism." This was based on no evidence, no studies, no science,just speculation.

 

You can see the full article at the CE collective evolution website.

[Thoth101]

For those that don't understand what happened take 7 minutes to watch this video. Enlighten yourselves.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCckUQgbyd8

[Thoth101]

Also here is the link to the full article:

 

https://www.collective-evolution.com/2020/03/08/cdc-admits-in-federal-court-they-have-no-evidence-vaccines-dont-cause-autism/

[Thoth101]

...This kinda falls in the same camp as "you can't prove there isn't a solid gold tea set on an orbit around the sun." There's no REASON for one to be there, so you're not likely to believe one WOULD be there until someone proves it IS there, but good effing luck proving that very specific claim wrong.

 

I just think it is great people are checking on this. When we have 1 in 36 kids getting Autism something must be done and looked into. Don't you think? There is definitely something going on.

[Amplituhedron]

For those that don't understand what happened take 7 minutes to watch this video. Enlighten yourselves.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCckUQgbyd8

 

 

You sure are one sick, stupid little puppy, ain't ya?

[GAHD]

I just think it is great people are checking on this. When we have 1 in 36 kids getting Autism something must be done and looked into. Don't you think? There is definitely something going on.

Not really? AFAICT it's a genetic thing, not an environmental one like FAS.

 

The cure might be one that's not morally palatable if that's true.

[Amplituhedron]

Also here is the link to the full article:

 

https://www.collective-evolution.com/2020/03/08/cdc-admits-in-federal-court-they-have-no-evidence-vaccines-dont-cause-autism/

 

From the above link:

 

 

The Facts: In a recent lawsuit, the CDC admitted in federal court that they have no studies, evidence or science proving that vaccines don't cause autism.

 

Reflect On: Why did they lie for years about this? Why did they conduct a massive media campaign shaming those that questioned vaccines? Why did they invent the term 'anti-vaxxer' to put people who question vaccines in a negative light?

 

 

This is nothing but propaganda aimed at stupid people! The CDC did NOT lie! It NEVER SAID that it could PROVE, or provide evidence or studies, that vaccines DON’T cause autism! What they SAID, correctly, and STILL SAY, correctly, is that there is no evidence, studies, or science, to show that vaccines DO cause autism!

 

And that is all that they are REQUIRED to do!

 

Do you really not understand this? Or are you just playing dumb? Or are you actually an anti-vax weirdo activist, rather than simply a credulous gull?

 

Here, “reflect on” this, dumb ***:

 

As a matter of elementary logic, NO ONE can PROVE a UNIVERSAL NEGATIVE PROPOSITION.

 

I can prove a LOCAL negative proposition. For example, I can prove that there IS NOT a unicorn hiding in my garage, simply by lifting the garage door.

 

But I cannot prove the UNIVERSAL NEGATIVE PROPOSITION that there is no unicorn hiding in any garage, anywhere, including all the garages of the past that no longer exist!

 

Pray, how could I prove that?

 

But what I CAN do is point out that there is NO EVIDENCE WHATEVER that unicorns exist, or ever HAVE existed — in garages, or anywhere else!

 

The BURDEN OF PROOF is on those who make a POSITIVE CLAIM. 

 

POSITIVE CLAIM: Unicorns exist, in garages or elsewhere.

 

Now,  PROVE IT.

 

POSITIVE CLAIM: Vaccines cause autism.

 

Now,  PROVE IT.

 

There is no evidence, AT ALL, that unicorns exist, or that vaccines cause autism! NONE.

 

Your appalling ignorance would be laughable, and not even worth commenting on, were it not for the fact that the LIES you dolts are spreading are HARMING AND EVEN KILLING CHILDREN.

[Thoth101]

Not really? AFAICT it's a genetic thing, not an environmental one like FAS.

 

The cure might be one that's not morally palatable if that's true.

 

I don't think it is all black and white and I think their are many factors. Then if it is genetic why is this defect being passed on to so many kids? What caused the original defect? For example if somebody gets radiation don't that cause a defects and can be passed onto the children? I will take a look at your video as soon as I can.

Edited March 12, 2020 by Thoth101

[Thoth101]

From the above link:

 

 

 

 

This is nothing but propaganda aimed at stupid people! The CDC did NOT lie! It NEVER SAID that it could PROVE, or provide evidence or studies, that vaccines DON’T cause autism! What they SAID, correctly, and STILL SAY, correctly, is that there is no evidence, studies, or science, to show that vaccines DO cause autism!

 

And that is all that they are REQUIRED to do!

 

Do you really not understand this? Or are you just playing dumb? Or are you actually an anti-vax weirdo activist, rather than simply a credulous gull?

 

Here, “reflect on” this, dumb ***:

 

As a matter of elementary logic, NO ONE can PROVE a UNIVERSAL NEGATIVE PROPOSITION.

 

I can prove a LOCAL negative proposition. For example, I can prove that there IS NOT a unicorn hiding in my garage, simply by lifting the garage door.

 

But I cannot prove the UNIVERSAL NEGATIVE PROPOSITION that there is no unicorn hiding in any garage, anywhere, including all the garages of the past that no longer exist!

 

Pray, how could I prove that?

 

But what I CAN do is point out that there is NO EVIDENCE WHATEVER that unicorns exist, or ever HAVE existed — in garages, or anywhere else!

 

The BURDEN OF PROOF is on those who make a POSITIVE CLAIM. 

 

POSITIVE CLAIM: Unicorns exist, in garages or elsewhere.

 

Now,  PROVE IT.

 

POSITIVE CLAIM: Vaccines cause autism.

 

Now,  PROVE IT.

 

There is no evidence, AT ALL, that unicorns exist, or that vaccines cause autism! NONE.

 

Your appalling ignorance would be laughable, and not even worth commenting on, were it not for the fact that the LIES you dolts are spreading are HARMING AND EVEN KILLING CHILDREN.

 

Are you really saying the government never lies? :lol:

 

How is it a lie that the CDC has been sued and lost the court case? How does suing the CDC kill children? Also if everybody is stupid but you what is the cause of Autism? It is a bit odd you get so angry when a corrupt institution such as the CDC is sued. You might want to do yourself some research on that.

[Vmedvil2]

Are you really saying the government never lies? :lol:

 

How is it a lie that the CDC has been sued and lost the court case? How does suing the CDC kill children? Also if everybody is stupid but you what is the cause of Autism? It is a bit odd you get so angry when a corrupt institution such as the CDC is sued. You might want to do yourself some research on that.

Now I am not saying the government never lies, however I would tend to think in the case of vaccines not causing autism this is true I have already explained to you why(http://www.scienceforums.com/topic/36472-bill-gates-thinks-gene-editing-and-artificial-intelligence-could-save-the-world/).

Edited March 12, 2020 by VictorMedvil

[Thoth101]

What pisses me most off with this anti-vax bullshit is that:

 

Unproven risk of autism, which if it were to be proven still does not kill anyone

 

vs.

 

Proven babykiller

 

And then they say they are about saving human race...by going wiht the option of killing babies....

 

I would say there is something to it. Especially when governments are pushing vaccines so hard. The big problem is they give babies 6 to 10 at one time. It's not about being an anti vaxxer it. It is about seeing what these institutions are actually giving to our kids. Should we not ask questions and believe everything they tell us? I have no problem with vaccines if they do what they are supposed to do. If they are giving entities problems and are causing problems the ingredients should be looked into. Should we just be naïve and believe that everything is told to us by the "mainstream" and so called "leaders"? 

 

Do you not look at the ingredients of the things you eat and give to your kids or do you just eat it and not care? It should be done with things that are literally injected in our bodies. Don't you think?

 

I thought all this was crazy at first. But my mom has been a nurse for about 20 years and she was the one that told me about some of these things and about the medical field and big pharma. I started researching things and come to find she knows what she is talking about. She can't say anything though or she will lose her job. Any medical person that tries to put out some truth will be fired and lose their license. They have to do what they are told. Most have to also because they are so in debt from the medical schools. Think how much a Doctor pays out for 8 years of medical school.

[Thoth101]

Now I am not saying the government never lies, however I would tend to think in the case of vaccines not causing autism this is true I have already explained to you why(http://www.scienceforums.com/topic/36472-bill-gates-thinks-gene-editing-and-artificial-intelligence-could-save-the-world/).

 

Yes I get that. What do you think the cause of the genetic defect is then in 1 in 36 kids. I am pretty sure it wasn't 1 in 36 kids even 10 years ago.