GAHD Posted April 7, 2020 Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 Wow, congrats on burying my ideas that you can't refute. I can't image this biting you in the @ss.If you don't understand how that's a russel's teapot style of thinking, and how that is completely unproductive, you should work on Theory of mind and basic cognition before you step into the realm of defining reality... My skin's thick and my *** is meaty. Give your incoherent daydreams teeth if you want them to ever be able to break it's skin. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vmedvil2 Posted April 7, 2020 Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 (edited) Decohered waves have access to spacetime, so they have defined position and momentum. ..I'm a gawd damn genius Let me stop you right there, No you are a moron, that isn't even smart enough to realize that he/she is wrong. Well, you aren't kidding anyone we have cranks like you appear all the time, everyone thinks you are wrong. There are hundreds of reasons that you are wrong but mainly like... "you have no evidence nor proof what so ever", having a idea and proving a idea are two entirely different things. Edited April 7, 2020 by VictorMedvil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittsburghjoe Posted April 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 (edited) A wave packet is as physical as light can become. A matter wave is forced to use spacetime when a decoherent event is imminent. Wave packets use spacetime so there is a chance the particle is not truly physical until the decoherence event. The particle had to be a wave packet first because wave collapse wasn't an option yet. Do I dare say the decoherence event is wave collapse? Because the collapsed wave is allowed to continue past the event, it was allowed to dictate what the particle was in flight (decoherent). Edited April 7, 2020 by pittsburghjoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittsburghjoe Posted April 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 The reason you get fringes after the second decoherence event in the quantum eraser experiment is because, any quantum wave that is going to decohere will be a wave packet from the beginning. Wave packets use spacetime, so the second event causes that wave packet to go back to being unreal coherent waves that don't use spacetime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittsburghjoe Posted April 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 Is it still considered decoherence if the event caused the particle to dead stop? So measurement does cause wave collapse, but the collapse goes from decohered wave packets to physical particles. Coherent quantum waves (plane waves) are not involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittsburghjoe Posted April 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 A wave collapse that doesn’t allow the particle to continue moving past the decoherence event will not be decohered wave packets in flight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittsburghjoe Posted April 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 Is dark matter, wave packets that do not have the ability to collapse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vmedvil2 Posted April 7, 2020 Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 What are you cranking on about this time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittsburghjoe Posted April 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 What would make a wave unable to collapse? Is a higgs boson a requirement for wave collapse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittsburghjoe Posted April 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 Is decoherence the conversion of coherent/plane waves to wave packets? Is wave collapse the conversion of wave packets to physical particles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittsburghjoe Posted April 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 Fringes are not a wave interfering with the same wave, it is interference with other excitations of different fields? Mark this day in your calendar as the day the double slit experiment was solved. Decohered waves are compiled to a single wave and do not produce fringes. Coherent waves are many waves from the start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittsburghjoe Posted April 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 This realm isn't using the spatial or temporal dimensions (spacetime). It is the medium for coherent/plane waves/excitations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittsburghjoe Posted April 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 Pinhole aperture and then wavelength filter. The wavelength filter is causing spatially coherent wave packets to return to coherent waves (plane waves). Yes, two forms of decoherence in a particles path causes it to return to coherent waves (plane waves). The quantum which way experiment displays the same effect. When you use laser light for a quantum experiment which includes a decoherence event ..the process must be starting over. Is incoherent light intersecting coherent waves that are immune to decoherence from other light waves? Does the chaos of its phase cause matter waves to decohere? Does a pinhole aperture cause them to be wave packets (decohere) and to be orderly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittsburghjoe Posted April 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 I suspect sunlight goes through something similar when entering water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittsburghjoe Posted April 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 Is wave collapse the superimposition of coherent plane waves to a single wave packet and then spacetime assigns temporal and spatial dimensions to the wave packet to be physical and age? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittsburghjoe Posted April 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 If your jaw isn't on the floor right now you aren't paying attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vmedvil2 Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 (edited) Crank, stop spamming the forums up with crank posts. Edited April 10, 2020 by VictorMedvil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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