Doppler Effect Of Gravitational Field

[TonyYuan2020]

Good luck with that, the physics forums is like a meat grinder. 

 

My friend ,Physics forum is not a meat grinder. They are still in the Copernican era. Posts with different views will be deleted. Science Forum is a fair and free platform. We can express different views. Thank you very much.

[Vmedvil2]

My friend ,Physics forum is not a meat grinder. They are still in the Copernican era. Posts with different views will be deleted. Science Forum is a fair and free platform. We can express different views. Thank you very much.

Okay next forums go to the http://www.sciforums.com/ and post there.

[TonyYuan2020]

Okay next forums go to the http://www.sciforums.com/ and post there.

OK, let me try again. :beer:

 

 

This time I published a post very carefully. I hope they can respect me as a learner. :zip:

http://www.sciforums.com/threads/a-story-about-special-relativity-who-can-explain-it%EF%BC%9F.162954/

Edited March 17, 2020 by TonyYuan2020

[exchemist]

OK, let me try again. :beer:

 

 

This time I published a post very carefully. I hope they can respect me as a learner. :zip:

http://www.sciforums.com/threads/a-story-about-special-relativity-who-can-explain-it%EF%BC%9F.162954/

Janus 58, who has given you a thorough reply on that forum, is a professional astronomer. He will know what he is talking about, so his reply will be worth considering carefully. 

[TonyYuan2020]

Janus 58, who has given you a thorough reply on that forum, is a professional astronomer. He will know what he is talking about, so his reply will be worth considering carefully. 

 

OK, I see. I can't reply to him until tomorrow morning. It's late night here. Good night. Thank you very much for the reminder.

[TonyYuan2020]

Janus 58, who has given you a thorough reply on that forum, is a professional astronomer. He will know what he is talking about, so his reply will be worth considering carefully. 

 

I'm back.

Yes, I have thought about his reply in the morning. There are some logical errors in his reply, and I will ask him to give further answers.

This story has become more interesting.

[TonyYuan2020]

Who can tell me, at present, what is the highest accuracy of the speed of light?

 

I've been designing a system these days that uses it to get the speed of light to an accuracy of 0.01 meters, or even higher. It may take me a few weeks to finish debugging this system.When I finish the final verification, I will publish the data.

 

The data I found is:

(299792500 ± 100) m / S 

299792458.458     m / S

299792458            m / S

[TonyYuan2020]

Janus 58, who has given you a thorough reply on that forum, is a professional astronomer. He will know what he is talking about, so his reply will be worth considering carefully. 

 

I think I've won the debate.

[TonyYuan2020]

Okay next forums go to the http://www.sciforums.com/ and post there.

 

My friend, you can see our discussion on sciforums. Special relativity is still very fragile there. I ended the discussion with three questions. They began to accept my article. Should we seriously think about it? Is special relativity really right?

http://www.sciforums.com/threads/a-story-about-special-relativity-who-can-explain-it%EF%BC%9F.162954/

 

I want to focus on the measurement of the speed of light. I want to challenge the accuracy of the speed of light to 0.00001 m / s. If I succeed, will it be a successful design？

 

I would be very honored if I could win your support.

Edited March 18, 2020 by TonyYuan2020

[exchemist]

I think I've won the debate.

Why do you think that? Janus has yet to reply to your further questions, and in the meantime several other posters have explained to you why you are wrong. 

[exchemist]

 

My friend, you can see our discussion on sciforums. Special relativity is still very fragile there. I ended the discussion with three questions. They began to accept my article. Should we seriously think about it? Is special relativity really right?

http://www.sciforums.com/threads/a-story-about-special-relativity-who-can-explain-it%EF%BC%9F.162954/

 

I want to focus on the measurement of the speed of light. I want to challenge the accuracy of the speed of light to 0.00001 m / s. If I succeed, will it be a successful design？

 

I would be very honored if I could win your support.

 

No they did not "begin to accept your article". Halc was polite enough to read it and point out some mistakes, that's all.  

 

He even signed off with the following: "Just a little constructive criticism to make a paper slightly less confusing, albeit still wrong"

Edited March 18, 2020 by exchemist

[TonyYuan2020]

No they did not "begin to accept your article". Halc was polite enough to read it and point out some mistakes, that's all.  

 

He even signed off with the following: "Just a little constructive criticism to make a paper slightly less confusing, albeit still wrong"

I've given three very simple scenarios that they can't solve with special relativity, and I think that's enough.

My article has been reviewed by several college students (they have all won the National Physics Olympic Competition Award), and they think it is right from the perspective of classical physics.

I also hope that they can point out where the writing is wrong, and I will reply one by one.

It's not simple. Generally speaking, the article is wrong. If they don't understand it, they say it's wrong. It's irresponsible words.

Edited March 18, 2020 by TonyYuan2020

[Vmedvil2]

I've given three very simple scenarios that they can't solve with special relativity, and I think that's enough.

I don't know what your talking about you are obviously delusional, I solved it then they solved it using special relativity(http://www.scienceforums.com/topic/36528-questions-to-special-relativity and http://www.sciforums.com/threads/a-story-about-special-relativity-who-can-explain-it%EF%BC%9F.162954/).

Edited March 18, 2020 by VictorMedvil

[exchemist]

I've given three very simple scenarios that they can't solve with special relativity, and I think that's enough.

First, who is "they"? Janus has not yet responded. He is a busy man and has other things to do than converse with internet cranks. 

 

Second, Halc has told you your paper is wrong.

 

Third, even if you pose a problem that people find difficulty solving with SR, that does not make SR wrong, let alone make Newtonian mechanics right. You may get a solution out of classical mechanics, but it is highly likely to be wrong, seeing as it gives the wrong answer in simpler scenarios. 

 

You have a choice here. You can either make an effort to listen to knowledgeable people and learn to understand SR, which currently you do not, apparently. Or you can hastily dismiss the advice you are getting, claim victory and carry on as if nobody had ever responded to you. It is entirely up to you. 

Edited March 18, 2020 by exchemist

[TonyYuan2020]

First, who is "they"? Janus has not yet responded. He is a busy man and has other things to do than converse with internet cranks. 

 

Second, Halc has told you your paper is wrong.

 

Third, even if you pose a problem that people find difficulty solving with SR, that does not make SR wrong, let alone make Newtonian mechanics right. You may get a solution out of classical mechanics, but it is highly likely to be wrong, seeing as it gives the wrong answer in simpler scenarios. 

 

You have a choice here. You can either make an effort to listen to knowledgeable people and learn to understand SR, which currently you do not, apparently. Or you can hastily dismiss the advice you are getting, claim victory and carry on as if nobody had ever responded to you. It is entirely up to you. 

I don't judge a thing in general as right or wrong. I will analyze and ask questions one by one, waiting for the other party to answer.

OK, let's continue to discuss it in depth. I hope our discussion is comprehensive and logical.

 

I'll wait for Janus to respond.

Edited March 18, 2020 by TonyYuan2020

[TonyYuan2020]

I don't know what your talking about you are obviously delusional, I solved it then they solved it using special relativity(http://www.scienceforums.com/topic/36528-questions-to-special-relativity and http://www.sciforums.com/threads/a-story-about-special-relativity-who-can-explain-it%EF%BC%9F.162954/).

First scene:

<--A----------------------------------Earth---------------------------------------B--->

-0.9C............................................................................................................0.9C

Please answer the relative speed between A and B .

 

Second scene:

Earth---------------------------------------A--->

----------------------------------------------B--->

.............................................................0.9C

Please answer the relative speed between A and B .

 

Third scene:

Earth---------------------------------------A--->

.|....................................................0.9C

.|

.|

.|

.|

\/ B 0.9C

Please answer the relative speed between A and B .

[Vmedvil2]

First scene:

<--A----------------------------------Earth---------------------------------------B--->

-0.9C............................................................................................................0.9C

Please answer the relative speed between A and B .

 

Second scene:

Earth---------------------------------------A--->

----------------------------------------------B--->

.............................................................0.9C

Please answer the relative speed between A and B .

 

Third scene:

Earth---------------------------------------A--->

.|....................................................0.9C

.|

.|

.|

.|

\/ B 0.9C

Please answer the relative speed between A and B .

You are following the same path as ralfcis, ralfcis already asked this question in (http://www.scienceforums.com/topic/35098-relativity-and-simple-algebra/). The answer is your add the gamma's to find the speed or use the equation r² = x² + y² + z²

 

1) A and B are traveling at γ_a * γ_b  or it's around like .995C

2) They are again traveling γa * γb or like 0C

3) They are traveling at γ_f² = γ_x² + γ_y²   or ‭.994C

Edited March 18, 2020 by VictorMedvil