montgomery Posted June 21, 2020 Report Posted June 21, 2020 (edited) The factor is that the MSM and Elite use race to divide and conquer. From my own experience most races get along well in the US. The controllers create an illusional division between races and even get them set off against each other. The justice system for many parts are rigged and the more money you have the more you can get off.The MSM is just expressing the thoughts and feelings of the people. I have to reject the 'fake news' idea because when Americans are asked to elaborate on what it is, there is no response. Do you know yourself? I agree that America's justice system is rigged, but I don't agree on the connection to America's huge income inequality problem. That's the rigged American way of greedy capitalism while the world's leading capitalist countries are practicing 'socially' responsible capitalism and leaving Americans behind in poverty.https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/canada-ranked-best-country-quality-life-2019America has fallen to 17th. and China already follows closely at 20th. This has a lot to do with the reason why Americans accepted Trump in desperation, but Trump lied about fixing the problem. America's racism problem is much too evident to be hidden or denied. Edited June 21, 2020 by montgomery Quote
montgomery Posted June 21, 2020 Report Posted June 21, 2020 I do think Trump is operating out of his depth (facial appearance suggests high performing downs syndrome maybe). I also agree that he might be mentally ill. If Trump is of no importance in the decision making of the states, it might explain some things. If he was to be put under pressure, just how irrational would he become, would he go MAD, and need locking up, or would he agree to lock himself up, and Tweet anything that comes into his head, whilst the real decisions are made for him. As a spokes person for the USA, he appears to be a bit lacking in many areas of understanding. Who would want to be lead by an ignorant person. He does appear to have the power to fire his advisers and get votes, maybe he appeals to the ignorant majority of voters in America. Why would you think that Germany or any other country comply with demands from an outside power, all countries in the world are free to trade with who they like. China is a huge market place, and is going to overtake the USA in trade with the rest of the world, Europe is also a big market place. Crying fowl and changing the rules of play, when you are losing might be what Trump is trying to do. Regarding Trade agreements, they take a long time to set up with mutually agreeable terms for trade. New agreements are not drawn up over night. Have you mistaken the acronym 'M.A.D.' for a reference to Trump's mental illness? I would suggest it's not helpful to suggest that Trump is afflicted with 'down syndrome'. Trump's mental illness is narcissism by definition.America has traditionally had the power to force or convince other countries to abide by America's wishes, but is quickly losing that power because of those other countries having a choice of other large and powerful countries. Think both militarily and economicallly. It's a long and detailed discussion. Cuba's liberation from under US sanctions and dirty tricks is one of the most glaring examples. Quote
montgomery Posted June 21, 2020 Report Posted June 21, 2020 Well for starters that was funny what you said about high performing down syndrome. :lol: One major problem is that there really isn't a vote for the president. Last time it was between Hillary and Trump. Dumb and Dumber or Evil and more evil. Any candidate that would be good usually loses out and it is the ones with the most money and backing from lobbyist that can run. Now the next election is between Trump and Biden. This is why I don't vote because it is a total waste of time and useless in the end.Voila! A choice between Trump and Biden is just a choice to continue the failed American way of cheating the people out of their piece of the pie. Bernie had many of the right ideas but the Dem party establishment cheated him out of the nomination. In some fairness to the Dem party, the country wasn't ready yet because the people still imagine a commie under every bed. Thoth101 1 Quote
Thoth101 Posted June 22, 2020 Report Posted June 22, 2020 The MSM is just expressing the thoughts and feelings of the people. I have to reject the 'fake news' idea because when Americans are asked to elaborate on what it is, there is no response. Do you know yourself? I agree that America's justice system is rigged, but I don't agree on the connection to America's huge income inequality problem. That's the rigged American way of greedy capitalism while the world's leading capitalist countries are practicing 'socially' responsible capitalism and leaving Americans behind in poverty.https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/canada-ranked-best-country-quality-life-2019America has fallen to 17th. and China already follows closely at 20th. This has a lot to do with the reason why Americans accepted Trump in desperation, but Trump lied about fixing the problem. America's racism problem is much too evident to be hidden or denied. All of MSM is owned by 5 corporations. I would say it is the other way around where the MSM injects thoughts into people's heads. In other words propaganda. For just one simple example is Marijuana. For years mainstream was putting out all kinds of propaganda about it. Not to mention in the MSM there is barely any real journalist anymore. They are just teleprompter readers which comes down from the main head pushing the stories the controllers want to be pushed that day. Though to put in a little bit of your perspective death and drama does sell. There are many variations of fake news. It really can be used for any kind of news. True to the word though fake news is propaganda or anything without any verifiable facts and eye witnesses. For instance Big Pharma pays for most of the advertising on the MSM. So Big Pharma can push any kind of propaganda they want since they are paying the bills and MSM won't call them out on it. It can be said Big Pharma are pushers of fake news because they can just say what they want without a debate. In short global corporate media protect the interests of the one per cent by serving as a propaganda machine for the superclass. They provide entertainment for the masses and distort the realities of inequality. Corporate news is managed by the one per cent to maintain illusions. Well I am not sure if you ever lived in America but like I said I have worked with all colors and I never had any problems. I think it is an illusion because of the MSM pushing that their is a race problem. They can push any illusion they want to you. There is a big problem though of black on black crimes'. That is a big problem and they kill each other every day especially in the inner cities. But the MSM won't tell you about the real problems at hand. Quote
Thoth101 Posted June 22, 2020 Report Posted June 22, 2020 Voila! A choice between Trump and Biden is just a choice to continue the failed American way of cheating the people out of their piece of the pie. Bernie had many of the right ideas but the Dem party establishment cheated him out of the nomination. In some fairness to the Dem party, the country wasn't ready yet because the people still imagine a commie under every bed.I am glad we could agree. Well Bernie kind of stabbed himself in the back when he backed Hillary after he didn't get the nomination. Bernie might have been a little to socialist also to get a lot of Americans votes not to mention his age and how long he has been in. When he was pushing free college for everyone people kind of realized nothing is free and they would have to pay for it through taxation anyway and the taxes we have here already are astronomical. There is big government and we have BIG GOVERNMENT. If anything people want less government and less taxes. That is part of the problem with the police. We also have to many laws they have to enforce. Which is why the so called free America has the highest prison population in the world. They say almost every citizen breaks about 5 laws a day because there is a law for just about everything. Quote
Thoth101 Posted June 22, 2020 Report Posted June 22, 2020 Trump 74 years old, Biden 77 years old. Will either of them reach the end of the next Presidency or even next election? They are both in the Covid-19 high risk category. Trump appears to think Covid 19 is not an issue, I wonder if he thinks the same when he gets it during his campaign?I think the more evil you are the longer you live. Look at Henry Kissinger. He is still going around flapping his gums. :lol: But indeed I would agree with an age limit for presidents. Quote
montgomery Posted June 22, 2020 Report Posted June 22, 2020 I am glad we could agree. Well Bernie kind of stabbed himself in the back when he backed Hillary after he didn't get the nomination. Bernie might have been a little to socialist also to get a lot of Americans votes not to mention his age and how long he has been in. When he was pushing free college for everyone people kind of realized nothing is free and they would have to pay for it through taxation anyway and the taxes we have here already are astronomical. There is big government and we have BIG GOVERNMENT. If anything people want less government and less taxes. That is part of the problem with the police. We also have to many laws they have to enforce. Which is why the so called free America has the highest prison population in the world. They say almost every citizen breaks about 5 laws a day because there is a law for just about everything.Americans are paying far more tax than Cubans, but getting less out of your tax dollar. That which you call 'free' education has already been paid for by your tax dollars. Same with health care. Canadians can have what you call 'free' health care that is of higher quality than US health care, and still pay roughly the same in taxes. In America the tax revenue to government isn't sufficient to provide the necessities I've mentioned because the wealthy aren't paying their fair share. That's the biggest reason for the huge income inequality. America's record incarceration rate isn't because of too many laws but I would like to hear of some laws that America has that other countries don't have? Thoth101 1 Quote
Thoth101 Posted June 23, 2020 Report Posted June 23, 2020 Americans are paying far more tax than Cubans, but getting less out of your tax dollar. That which you call 'free' education has already been paid for by your tax dollars. Same with health care. Canadians can have what you call 'free' health care that is of higher quality than US health care, and still pay roughly the same in taxes. In America the tax revenue to government isn't sufficient to provide the necessities I've mentioned because the wealthy aren't paying their fair share. That's the biggest reason for the huge income inequality. America's record incarceration rate isn't because of too many laws but I would like to hear of some laws that America has that other countries don't have? True and yes most of the very wealthy bypass paying any tax dollars. I know there are many loopholes so they can do that and one example I know is off shore accounts and as Bill Gates does puts his money in "foundations". And correct me if I am wrong I am pretty sure Jeff Bebos of Amazon hardly pays any tax dollars if any. He is now a trillionaire. And during the Covid many of the billionaires got even richer including Bill Gates. I recently found out today on the Corbett report that even the Melinda and Bill Gates foundation funds one 2 of the fact checkers for the social media. How convenient. I ask who is watching the "fact checkers"? Yea I am sure there are many more reasons besides laws that so many Americans are incarcerated. That would be something to look into comparing the countries. I know because of the "drug war" many are incarcerated because of drugs. But then you come to find that our own CIA is part of shipping the drugs in. Then you realize why we are in Afghanistan. Way for them to make "Black OPS Money" that can't be tracked. Another thing to understand many of the manufacturing sector companies and corporations went to China and Mexico for cheaper label and bypass the taxes. That left a lot of Americans without jobs and a lot of broken homes. What else was there for people to do then survive by selling drugs. Since drugs are "illegal" it created the whole underground culture such as gangs. You think we would have learned something from Prohibition of alcohol. Most of the mom and pop stores of normal simple people were either bought out by larger corporations and or went out of business because they couldn't afford the taxes and compete with the larger corporations. I think what it all boils down to is a war between the 99 percent and the 1 percent. But those who have the money hold the power so Rothschild said. Right now the Technocrats are taking everything over right over our noses and by looking at this Covid you see how truly globalized everything has become. Quote
montgomery Posted June 23, 2020 Report Posted June 23, 2020 True and yes most of the very wealthy bypass paying any tax dollars. I know there are many loopholes so they can do that and one example I know is off shore accounts and as Bill Gates does puts his money in "foundations". And correct me if I am wrong I am pretty sure Jeff Bebos of Amazon hardly pays any tax dollars if any. He is now a trillionaire. And during the Covid many of the billionaires got even richer including Bill Gates. I recently found out today on the Corbett report that even the Melinda and Bill Gates foundation funds one 2 of the fact checkers for the social media. How convenient. I ask who is watching the "fact checkers"? Yea I am sure there are many more reasons besides laws that so many Americans are incarcerated. That would be something to look into comparing the countries. I know because of the "drug war" many are incarcerated because of drugs. But then you come to find that our own CIA is part of shipping the drugs in. Then you realize why we are in Afghanistan. Way for them to make "Black OPS Money" that can't be tracked. Another thing to understand many of the manufacturing sector companies and corporations went to China and Mexico for cheaper label and bypass the taxes. That left a lot of Americans without jobs and a lot of broken homes. What else was there for people to do then survive by selling drugs. Since drugs are "illegal" it created the whole underground culture such as gangs. You think we would have learned something from Prohibition of alcohol. Most of the mom and pop stores of normal simple people were either bought out by larger corporations and or went out of business because they couldn't afford the taxes and compete with the larger corporations. I think what it all boils down to is a war between the 99 percent and the 1 percent. But those who have the money hold the power so Rothschild said. Right now the Technocrats are taking everything over right over our noses and by looking at this Covid you see how truly globalized everything has become.That's the American way Thoth. It's the reason for all the problems in your country and the reason why the people accepted Trump, a corporate psychopath, for their president. He promised to do something for the ordinary people but he lied.The American people continue to fall further and further behind the higher standards being set by the world's leading capitalist countries. Quote
Vmedvil2 Posted June 23, 2020 Author Report Posted June 23, 2020 That's the American way Thoth. It's the reason for all the problems in your country and the reason why the people accepted Trump, a corporate psychopath, for their president. He promised to do something for the ordinary people but he lied.The American people continue to fall further and further behind the higher standards being set by the world's leading capitalist countries. Quote
Thoth101 Posted June 24, 2020 Report Posted June 24, 2020 That's the American way Thoth. It's the reason for all the problems in your country and the reason why the people accepted Trump, a corporate psychopath, for their president. He promised to do something for the ordinary people but he lied.The American people continue to fall further and further behind the higher standards being set by the world's leading capitalist countries.It's not only the American way but the most of the world. Name a president or prime minister in this whole world that is an actual kind,caring, trustworthy, honest and respectable leader? The only entities that even come close to that is maybe Norway and Sweden. But yea at one time America was the bastion of hope and freedom and the last place to run to. But it has never been perfect. It seems it really started going down hill when the cue happened and Kennedy was murdered. That is when it really started being taken over from the inside. Or you could go back to when the dollar was taken off the golden standard. The Rockefellers and Rothchilds have been one of the great diseases of America. But if you go back to the holocaust of the Native Americans there is a lot of bloodshed and karma in the lands of the US. Pretty much the US was built on bloodshed and war. But then again so has the whole world. America is just the settlers from the old world bringing in the problems to the new world. Quote
montgomery Posted June 24, 2020 Report Posted June 24, 2020 (edited) It's not only the American way but the most of the world. Name a president or prime minister in this whole world that is an actual kind,caring, trustworthy, honest and respectable leader? The only entities that even come close to that is maybe Norway and Sweden. But yea at one time America was the bastion of hope and freedom and the last place to run to. But it has never been perfect. It seems it really started going down hill when the cue happened and Kennedy was murdered. That is when it really started being taken over from the inside. Or you could go back to when the dollar was taken off the golden standard. The Rockefellers and Rothchilds have been one of the great diseases of America. But if you go back to the holocaust of the Native Americans there is a lot of bloodshed and karma in the lands of the US. Pretty much the US was built on bloodshed and war. But then again so has the whole world. America is just the settlers from the old world bringing in the problems to the new world. The American way I mentioned is greedy capitalism that is cheating the people out of a piece of the pie. I would say that Obama was closest to all the qualities you mentioned. They called him the messiah and they wanted to lynch him for his attempts at bringing more equality to America. The 'they' could be your illuminati if that's what you believe. Edited June 24, 2020 by montgomery Quote
OceanBreeze Posted June 24, 2020 Report Posted June 24, 2020 USA does has problems but it is still the best country on the planet. Your Canada (or is it Russia?) could not exist without the umbrella provided by the USA Keep on trollin trollin trollin GAHD and Thoth101 2 Quote
montgomery Posted June 24, 2020 Report Posted June 24, 2020 USA does has problems but it is still the best country on the planet. Your Canada (or is it Russia?) could not exist without the umbrella provided by the USA Keep on trollin trollin trollinSeabreeze, America has become a shithole for the majority of its people, as compared to the world's leading capitalist countries. You don't even have affordable quality health care for all the people and that puts America somewhere below first world standards. When you talk about an umbrella protecting Canada or Russia, are you talking about a military umbrella? If so then it's not necessary. Our biggest threat is the US now. If America goes completely renegade and starts invading it's Nato partners, we'll have Nato nuke the US. Quote
OceanBreeze Posted June 24, 2020 Report Posted June 24, 2020 Seabreeze, America has become a shithole for the majority of its people, as compared to the world's leading capitalist countries. You don't even have affordable quality health care for all the people and that puts America somewhere below first world standards. When you talk about an umbrella protecting Canada or Russia, are you talking about a military umbrella? If so then it's not necessary. Our biggest threat is the US now. If America goes completely renegade and starts invading it's Nato partners, we'll have Nato nuke the US. Keep on trollin trollin trollin America sets the standard that other countries try to reach I think I detect more than a hint of jealousy in your posts, Ivan. Quote
OceanBreeze Posted June 24, 2020 Report Posted June 24, 2020 Seabreeze, America has become a shithole for the majority of its people, as compared to the world's leading capitalist countries. You don't even have affordable quality health care for all the people and that puts America somewhere below first world standards. When you talk about an umbrella protecting Canada or Russia, are you talking about a military umbrella? If so then it's not necessary. Our biggest threat is the US now. If America goes completely renegade and starts invading it's Nato partners, we'll have Nato nuke the US. NATO nuke the US, with what? Do you realize that most of the NATO nukes are provided by the US? They can all be remotely disabled by transmitting a code More than you need to know Quote
montgomery Posted June 24, 2020 Report Posted June 24, 2020 NATO nuke the US, with what? Do you realize that most of the NATO nukes are provided by the US? They can all be remotely disabled by transmitting a code More than you need to knowYou're probably right that 'most' of Nato's nukes are provided by the US, but not all. And fwiw, some Nato countries have a code that can disable America's nukes. Not to mention too that both Russia and China have that code too! Do you realize that if America nukes anybody, it will be nuked by many other nuclear armed countries that have become America's enemies because of Trump? Enough of your daddy can beat up my daddy, let's get serious. No country risks having a code that can disarm their nuclear weapons. Quote
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