What if Trump Loses?

[montgomery]

If Trump loses then expect the sort of reaction that's predicted of a psychopath. That is very much an unknown due to the fact that a psychopath is incapable of accepting defeat. And so the big question is on whether Trump will seek revenge to somehow turn his loss into a win. There are many possibilities to consider but the one we could be considering now is the possibility of Trump revealing state secrets to any of America's enemies, real or imagined?

This begs the question of how the FBI/CIA and other government law enforcement agencies are contemplating how they will need to constantly monitor Trump. Or in fact, take more drastic measures with more positive steps to protect state secrets. 

There's probably little doubt that even Pompeo will have to immediately cut off his loyalty to Trump in the event of a loss. Pompeo is not a totally ignorant person who wouldn't be aware of the possibility of America's most vital secrets being compromised. 

Will Trump pass on top secret information to Russia, to China, or both?

[Anchovyforestbane]

I find laughably few reasons to expect such vice from the likes of Trump. Personally, I don't like the guy; he's made some bad choices in his past, and he's got a bad attitude. But he's done too many good things and not enough bad things to be reasonably portrayed as some vile psychopath.

[OceanBreeze]

9 hours ago, Anchovyforestbane said:

I find laughably few reasons to expect such vice from the likes of Trump. Personally, I don't like the guy; he's made some bad choices in his past, and he's got a bad attitude. But he's done too many good things and not enough bad things to be reasonably portrayed as some vile psychopath.

Right. In fact, it has been the democrats who have not been able to accept defeat in the 2016 presidential election and have displayed near-psychotic Trump derangement syndrome ever since. If Trump wins this year we can expect to see Nancy Pelosi and more than a few other democrats totally lose their minds.

[Vmedvil2]

20 hours ago, montgomery said:

If Trump loses then expect the sort of reaction that's predicted of a psychopath. That is very much an unknown due to the fact that a psychopath is incapable of accepting defeat. And so the big question is on whether Trump will seek revenge to somehow turn his loss into a win. There are many possibilities to consider but the one we could be considering now is the possibility of Trump revealing state secrets to any of America's enemies, real or imagined?

This begs the question of how the FBI/CIA and other government law enforcement agencies are contemplating how they will need to constantly monitor Trump. Or in fact, take more drastic measures with more positive steps to protect state secrets. 

There's probably little doubt that even Pompeo will have to immediately cut off his loyalty to Trump in the event of a loss. Pompeo is not a totally ignorant person who wouldn't be aware of the possibility of America's most vital secrets being compromised. 

Will Trump pass on top secret information to Russia, to China, or both?

Trump will start a Military Dictatorship quickly after that invading Canada and arresting you for your "Fake News" reporting on him, Montgomery.

Edited October 14, 2020 by VictorMedvil

[montgomery]

1 hour ago, VictorMedvil said:

Trump will start a Military Dictatorship quickly after that invading Canada and arresting you for your "Fake News" reporting on him, Montgomery.

We won't let him come over the border with his gun Victor.

Americans shouldn't be missing the fact that Trump has been antiwar on foreign relations with Russia. The scary part is if the Dems follow through in any way with the pro-war rhetoric against Russia. They could elevate the developing Cold war into a hot war and Russia won't be pushed any further.

I highly expect Trump to flaunt his hidden relationship with Putin if he loses and that may include betraying secrets to Putin. That would be expected of him at least.

But fwiw, I see nobody on this forum are contemplating a Trump loss so far and so there will be no rational discussion on this thread.

Well, except maybe Thoth, who can turn anything into a conspiracy!

Edited October 14, 2020 by montgomery

[Thoth101]

On 10/14/2020 at 10:51 AM, montgomery said:

We won't let him come over the border with his gun Victor.

Americans shouldn't be missing the fact that Trump has been antiwar on foreign relations with Russia. The scary part is if the Dems follow through in any way with the pro-war rhetoric against Russia. They could elevate the developing Cold war into a hot war and Russia won't be pushed any further.

I highly expect Trump to flaunt his hidden relationship with Putin if he loses and that may include betraying secrets to Putin. That would be expected of him at least.

But fwiw, I see nobody on this forum are contemplating a Trump loss so far and so there will be no rational discussion on this thread.

Well, except maybe Thoth, who can turn anything into a conspiracy!

I think what it boils down to Monty is that if Biden is elected you better learn how to speak Chinese and wear your mask 24 hours a day. 

[montgomery]

6 hours ago, Thoth101 said:

I think what it boils down to Monty is that if Biden is elected you better learn how to speak Chinese and wear your mask 24 hours a day. 

That's about what one would expect out of wingnut like Icky David.

[Thoth101]

16 hours ago, montgomery said:

That's about what one would expect out of wingnut like Icky David.

Actually I have not heard Mr. Icke speak of this as of yet but their is this:
 

One of the people on an explosive email thread allegedly involving Hunter Biden has corroborated the veracity of the messages, which appear to outline a payout for former Vice President Joe Biden as part of a deal with a Chinese energy firm. One email, dated May 13, 2017, and obtained by Fox News, includes a discussion of "remuneration packages" for six people in a business deal with a Chinese energy firm. The email appeared to identify Hunter Biden as "Chair / Vice Chair depending on agreement with CEFC," in an apparent reference to now-bankrupt CEFC China Energy Co. The email includes a note that "Hunter has some office expectations he will elaborate." A proposed equity split references "20" for "H" and "10 held by H for the big guy?" with no further details. Fox News spoke to one of the people who was copied on the email, who confirmed its authenticity. Sources told Fox News that "the big guy" is a reference to the former vice president. The New York Post initially published the emails and other controversial messages that Fox News has also obtained.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-china-email-source-verifies

A tranche of emails, texts, and business documents released by Hunter Biden's former business partner Tony Bobulinski reveals a complicated web of foreign figures, all of whom trade off access to the former vice president or off the Biden family name. The hundreds of files, which were shared with the Washington Examiner, detail the inner workings of how Hunter Biden’s former business partners, Bobulinksi and James Gilliar, routinely pitched deals with their firm as politically advantageous due to their relationships with the Biden family. Both Hunter Biden and Joe Biden's brother, Jim Biden, were often copied on the emails, many of which describe banal meetings or opportunities to pitch business to new clients. One of the bigger deals pursued by Hunter Biden and his associates was related to a joint venture dubbed "Oneida Holdings" -- an attempted partnership between Hunter and Jim Biden, Bobulinski's SinoHawk company, and since-bankrupted Chinese energy conglomerate CEFC China Energy.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/leaked-files-show-years-of-hunter-bidens-business-dealings

Makes you wonder what other deals the Biden family had with China. Hmmmm maybe and endless supply of masks.🤣 Biden sure wants you to wear your masks. Did you notice Biden mentioned Dark Winter at the debate? Although I don't even think you would have a clue what that is about.😄

[montgomery]

If the Biden family has deals with China that's good news. But I suspect that relations with China will be more positive under a Trump regime. 

Trump's a businessman, even though he's a failed one. His first priority will always be to the wealthy and so promoting better trade relations with China will always be more important than trying to bring back industry to the US. And besides, there's really no way that can be done anymore. The US is far, far from being able to compete with China.

China is likely taking a position in which the US becomes excluded from trade relations with the major trading partners of the world. The US has no capability of fighting a trade war with China. 

Our Thoth is indicating that he has no understanding of slightly complicated matters such as this and so he wails away about Biden, not understanding that he's oblivious of the fact that the world can benefit with Trump. Even though he continues to destroy America on domestic policy.

[Thoth101]

11 hours ago, montgomery said:

If the Biden family has deals with China that's good news. But I suspect that relations with China will be more positive under a Trump regime. 

Trump's a businessman, even though he's a failed one. His first priority will always be to the wealthy and so promoting better trade relations with China will always be more important than trying to bring back industry to the US. And besides, there's really no way that can be done anymore. The US is far, far from being able to compete with China.

China is likely taking a position in which the US becomes excluded from trade relations with the major trading partners of the world. The US has no capability of fighting a trade war with China. 

Our Thoth is indicating that he has no understanding of slightly complicated matters such as this and so he wails away about Biden, not understanding that he's oblivious of the fact that the world can benefit with Trump. Even though he continues to destroy America on domestic policy.

So you think it is a good idea to make deals with a communist government? Is Harry Kissinger your daddy?😆 Monty are you a communist or just a socialist? Actually I think this article breaks Trump down really well:

https://salmartingano.com/2020/10/hate-trump-read-this/

Monty from everything I have seen from you, you seem to be the one that is not informed. Afterall you get your news from the Criminal News Network which is nothing but an arm of the Cabal. And feeds you nothing but propaganda and mind control. I thought Canadians would be a little more informed. Hopefully most Canadians aren't like you.

[montgomery]

Yesterday's NYT is on the park bench now.

[RaccoonRanger]

On 10/24/2020 at 10:11 AM, montgomery said:

If the Biden family has deals with China that's good news. But I suspect that relations with China will be more positive under a Trump regime. 

Trump's a businessman, even though he's a failed one. His first priority will always be to the wealthy and so promoting better trade relations with China will always be more important than trying to bring back industry to the US. And besides, there's really no way that can be done anymore. The US is far, far from being able to compete with China.

China is likely taking a position in which the US becomes excluded from trade relations with the major trading partners of the world. The US has no capability of fighting a trade war with China. 

Our Thoth is indicating that he has no understanding of slightly complicated matters such as this and so he wails away about Biden, not understanding that he's oblivious of the fact that the world can benefit with Trump. Even though he continues to destroy America on domestic policy.

Number of things wrong with this post.

 

Trumps is not a failed businessman. If he was, he wouldn't be President.  You can dispute his real net worth and taxes, but a "failure" he is not.

Trump imposed new trade deals with China so as we aren't a trillion in imbalances anymore. now its about $500 billion. Thats progress from trade agreements of sins past the US made Xi Xiaoping doesn't like. They are fast working on replacing the US dollar as a world reserve currency.

China depends on our economy to buy most of their junk. China no doubt wants to screw us over as badly as possible, but they cannot exclude their number one export country.. (at least for a few more decades).  And the US has the most capability of fighting China so long as we keep people like Obama and Biden out of office in the future. 

Hunter Biden Laptop. Oops!!..  China has leverege on weak and senile politicians like Joe Biden.  Don't want that video or receipt being made public?? Sign this trade agreement. Even if Joe wasn't directly involved, they use the surrounding family for indirect contact and "donation". 

 

China has been stealing research and commercial secrets and playing dirty for decades, and you want to concede, and then blame Trump?? 

[RaccoonRanger]

Direct reply to question??

The United States will still be divided, and the MSM will foment the largely brainwashed millenials to keep peaceful fire-setting and brick- throwing to continue.

We'll hear endless cries of rampant racism to exist in every breath you take, and every policeman you encounter. 

Grand ideas of FREE Healthcare and Education and Housing proposed by the Green New Deal Progressives will be espoused ad nauseum. 

Meanwhile Trump will handle other world leaders and trade partners as a firm and unshakeable force for 4 more years. 

[Thoth101]

On 10/25/2020 at 11:35 AM, montgomery said:

Yesterday's NYT is on the park bench now.

 

[montgomery]

12 hours ago, RaccoonRanger said:

Direct reply to question??

The United States will still be divided, and the MSM will foment the largely brainwashed millenials to keep peaceful fire-setting and brick- throwing to continue.

We'll hear endless cries of rampant racism to exist in every breath you take, and every policeman you encounter. 

Grand ideas of FREE Healthcare and Education and Housing proposed by the Green New Deal Progressives will be espoused ad nauseum. 

Meanwhile Trump will handle other world leaders and trade partners as a firm and unshakeable force for 4 more years. 

The quick answer is that the US is again trying to demonize all it's competitors and China is no exception. But this time the competitor is too big and it has most of the world's countries as it's friends, because  China hasn't attempted to control the world by force.

If Trump wins election I highly suspect that he will begin to deal with China in the same way he's been dealing with Russia, and that will be a good thing. I have no interest or care for what Trump will do to the US on domestic policy. 

Strange how many of Thoth's videos don't exist!

[Thoth101]

On 10/27/2020 at 11:17 AM, montgomery said:

The quick answer is that the US is again trying to demonize all it's competitors and China is no exception. But this time the competitor is too big and it has most of the world's countries as it's friends, because  China hasn't attempted to control the world by force.

If Trump wins election I highly suspect that he will begin to deal with China in the same way he's been dealing with Russia, and that will be a good thing. I have no interest or care for what Trump will do to the US on domestic policy. 

Strange how many of Thoth's videos don't exist!

Yes. Another video being censored. We are definitely living in 1984. For a good laugh, they haven't censored this "parody" video yet. Ummm, we buy most of our goods from China thanks to implementation of NAFTA and most of our labor being shipped to China. They aren't really our competitors if we need China for goods and they are buying up many things in the US. One example is billions of dollars from China going to the NBA. They are on a full takeover of America and Biden would just hand them the keys.

Way to go Joe: China Biden Campaign Parody

 

[A-wal]

On 10/13/2020 at 7:29 PM, montgomery said:

If Trump loses then expect the sort of reaction that's predicted of a psychopath. That is very much an unknown due to the fact that a psychopath is incapable of accepting defeat. And so the big question is on whether Trump will seek revenge to somehow turn his loss into a win. There are many possibilities to consider but the one we could be considering now is the possibility of Trump revealing state secrets to any of America's enemies, real or imagined?

This begs the question of how the FBI/CIA and other government law enforcement agencies are contemplating how they will need to constantly monitor Trump. Or in fact, take more drastic measures with more positive steps to protect state secrets. 

There's probably little doubt that even Pompeo will have to immediately cut off his loyalty to Trump in the event of a loss. Pompeo is not a totally ignorant person who wouldn't be aware of the possibility of America's most vital secrets being compromised. 

Will Trump pass on top secret information to Russia, to China, or both?

🙂