ISS FUBAR to cook

[UncleAl]

***-tronaughts aboard International Space Station Freedom FUBAR Space Hole One Alpha are being cooked by radiation as you read this,

 

http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/space/09/08/solar.flare.ap/index.html

 

The atmosphere at 14.7 psi is equal to 90.8 cm (3 feet) of lead shielding. Perhaps we should think of ISS FUBAR as pro-active whole-body irradiation for cancer. A Mars mission would be outside the Earth's magnetosphere as well. They would lethally cook.

[Boerseun]

Good incentive to stop at Mickey D's for a hefty load of calories, grease, carbs, and crap in general. Just for another couple o' redundand pounds so's your biological anti-radiation shield can work properly.

 

Nobody said obesity didn't have its uses.

 

Viva McD's!

[Buffy]

Ah ha! Another good way to fund the ISS Fubar! Just charge cancer victims $20M each for extra-special full-body radiation treatments! Great idea!

 

Cosmically irradiated,

Buffy

[Turtle]

___Pose a problem, find a solution:

http://www.spacedaily.com/news/radiation-05p.html

:shrug:

[Buffy]

___Pose a problem, find a solution:

http://www.spacedaily.com/news/radiation-05p.html

:shrug:

...and just the other day Neil Armstrong was quoted as saying that getting to Mars will be easier than going to the Moon....

 

Space Oddity,

Buffy

[CraigD]

…The atmosphere at 14.7 psi is equal to 90.8 cm (3 feet) of lead shielding. Perhaps we should think of ISS FUBAR as pro-active whole-body irradiation for cancer. A Mars mission would be outside the Earth's magnetosphere as well. They would lethally cook.

Using nuclear safety standard equivalents, 42 feet of water provides radiation and particle shielding equivalent to 3 feet of lead. According to multiple space-enthusiast websites, for the type of particle showers that make solar flares so deadly, less than a foot of water would provide adequate shielding.

 

Many proposed manned mars vehicles include water shielding, typically only of a small “survival chamber” into which the crew would cram upon detecting the immanent arrival of a dangerous solar particle shower. The difference in arrival times of the characteristic light and the slightly slower particles makes an evacuation of his kind practical.

 

The ISS’s “improved” (vs. Mir) polyethylene shielding doesn’t appear to be living up to expectations - evidence indicates that they’re getting about 350 times the radiation dose of a person on earth. Pre/post genetic “smear” genetic comparisons of 10 people who spent more than 70 days on Mir found with chromosomal abnormalities that might be precancerous in 3 of them. Data indicates that the ISS is only a little better.

 

Mir was, and the ISS is, clearly not adequately shielded. The conclusion from this that no possible spacecraft for a manned Mars mission could be, however, ignores or denies the conclusions of existing literature.

[UncleAl]

Many proposed manned mars vehicles include water shielding, typically only of a small “survival chamber” into which the crew would cram upon detecting the immanent arrival of a dangerous solar particle shower.

Immediately after a game, would you like to snuggle with your team in a very small room for three days or a week? Is there a potty in there? Weightless? Did somebody remember to bring a roll of toilet paper? NASA is particularly inept at details not affecting Management.

 

Apollo astronauts wore diapers in their suits and otherwise defecated into plastic bags with internal finger projections, helped by their crewmen. I don't care whether Mars ***-tronaughts go six months stag, mixed sex, or all nuns - it ain't gonna work, and radiation will only be icing on the cake. Athlete's foot and crotch rot are very high on the list. Did anybody bring Lamisil? Is a dentist along for the ride? A couple of head lice or crab lice could vastly change the dielectic of Man In Space.

 

Human hair grows 0.5-1 mm/day. Do you want your boys clean shaven? Your girls? How much extra mass are you willing to transport, aesthetics vs. life support and spare parts, to make it happen? Deodorant? Cosmetic this and that?

 

If a very long space ride doesn't kill them they'll kill each other. And if one finds god... or they all do... giggles.