Vmedvil2 Posted April 10, 2021 Report Posted April 10, 2021 (edited) Basically unless you have 80 billion dollars or are famous everything you do is meaningless and this is why, nothing you do will go down in history and someday will just be buried in others trash or be deleted such as typing on this forums right now someday this scienceforums.com will run out of money and all the things you have written down will just vanish. Now for famous and rich people they can just pay to have everything they have written down by others or saved which is treated like gold somewhere as long as the internet exists their writings and concepts will be saved as others actually care to save it, just because they are rich enough to pay someone or famous enough that everyone treats everything they say as gold. As for the common man or woman everything you say will just be dumped into the trash someday. I hope that gives everyone a greater outlook on the meaninglessness of everything they do. Edited April 10, 2021 by VictorMedvil Rasti 1 Quote
Rasti Posted April 13, 2021 Report Posted April 13, 2021 TOTALLY AGREE. As someone who has taken a few philosophy classes (and passed), and as an admittedly existentialist individual, I can confirm thru just my own viewpoint that everything is meaningless. However, that is not enough; Even those who are rich will pass into oblivion regardless of their contributions to humanity or the multiverse at large. Given a long enough timeline (in our 'verse, that would be infinity), and a large enough playing field of competing ideas and people (Again, see: Multiverse), most people and their ideas take up less than a millionth of a percent of the history (both the scope and the length) of the multiverse. In fact, I would hedge a bet that most life forms which happen upon our humble little abode pass it by because quite frankly, we are just a tribal barbarian planet filled with warring assholes hell bent on their own destruction. And furthermore, I would also hedge a bet that most of them have made it SO FAR past their own barbaric and idiotic ways, that none of their species is alive to have experienced, written about, or care to discuss it. Hell, I would bet that even to discuss barbarism in any other tone than to scoff at a child's plaything would be so beneath any advanced species, that to make wind of it would border on treason. Specifically because it destroys both the collective thought of the populace, AND because it encourages outright ignorance to proliferate. I am not even going to try to explain why, because I basically see myself as being on a planet surrounded by maybe a few hundred thousand truly worthwhile people, and the rest are BARBARIANS with clubs, searching for their next meal in the brush. But then, I am existentialist AND nihilist so......... You can thank Sartre for making me into this homunculus. 😉 Quote
HallsofIvy Posted April 30, 2021 Report Posted April 30, 2021 So you are aguing that only things for which you become famous are "meaningful"? Saving a persons life, which no one remembers a hundred years later, is not "meaningful"? What if the persons great great grand child creates a vaccine that cures a disease that was killing people around the world. IF no one remembers that 200 years later, it was not meaningful? That would seem to me to be a very limited definition of "meaningful". Quote
Vmedvil2 Posted August 28, 2021 Author Report Posted August 28, 2021 (edited) On 4/30/2021 at 6:50 PM, HallsofIvy said: So you are aguing that only things for which you become famous are "meaningful"? Saving a persons life, which no one remembers a hundred years later, is not "meaningful"? What if the persons great great grand child creates a vaccine that cures a disease that was killing people around the world. IF no one remembers that 200 years later, it was not meaningful? That would seem to me to be a very limited definition of "meaningful". Basically I am just telling you how it is, our only lot in life is to be ****ed by "the man" and then thrown into a garbage truck. Edited August 28, 2021 by VictorMedvil Quote
HallsofIvy Posted August 28, 2021 Report Posted August 28, 2021 Yet you answer none of my questions. I know many people who are meaningful to me and to whom I am meaningful. That is all that is important. Quote
Vmedvil2 Posted August 28, 2021 Author Report Posted August 28, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, HallsofIvy said: Yet you answer none of my questions. I know many people who are meaningful to me and to whom I am meaningful. That is all that is important. However that will all be forgotten and thrown into the garbage heap too. Don't feel bad I am not above this either I will go down in history as a "Blank Page" too, you just aren't rich or famous enough to be important, I am not either. Edited August 28, 2021 by VictorMedvil Quote
HallsofIvy Posted August 29, 2021 Report Posted August 29, 2021 I won't feel sad about it or even care about not being rich or famous. OceanBreeze 1 Quote
OceanBreeze Posted August 29, 2021 Report Posted August 29, 2021 18 hours ago, VictorMedvil said: However that will all be forgotten and thrown into the garbage heap too. Don't feel bad I am not above this either I will go down in history as a "Blank Page" too, you just aren't rich or famous enough to be important, I am not either. Do you think people can take their wealth and fame with them when they die? I like Aristotle’s theory of happiness, which rests on three concepts: (1) the virtues, which are good properties of one’s character that benefit oneself and others; (2) phronesis, which is the ability to employ the virtues to the right amount in any particular situation; and (3) eudaimonia, which is a life that is happy, successful and morally good, all at the same time. Rather than me trying to explain this, I will just drop this article here for anyone who is interested. It is very simply written but I think comprehensive enough for the average reader. In simplest form "We can only reach our full potential together with others. If everyone does their own job well, if everyone helps others and is beneficial to them, then we will all profit on our journey" Seems simple enough, but sometimes difficult to put into practice, as I well know. Quote
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