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Top 5% huh? Well, the Top 0.005% are here at Hypography, so why bother? :hihi:

 

HE

 

True, but we are not exclusionary in nature. You never know where your next inspiration is going to come from.

 

In my days as a freelance system architect, I once ran a team of 3 programmers, (myself being one of them). One fella was brilliant, the other quite average.

The brilliant fella (and I mean "OMG, how did you think of that" brilliant) lacked any understanding of etiquette, impulse control, or hygiene. Ego and nervous habits kept the man in a perpetual state of near explosion. Present a problem to him though, and a workable answer just sort of fell out. Most solutions were like UncleAl posts, usually requiring considerable effort to see how the solution worked. Try and get him to code the solution in an intelligible (or even complete) way was like trying to shove a wet noodle up a wildcat's *** though.

 

The "Average" guy was quiet, uninspired, and meticulous. He would spend hours coding around a problem rather then solve the problem. If not presented with a problem he was one of the most prolific coders I have ever seen. Every line exactly to specs. All code fully documented. He typed so fast that if his system hiccuped he would end up stuffing the keyboard buffer.

 

When told that I needed to drop one of my team members due to budget restrictions, guess which one I chose?

 

133 BTW. Looks like it went up 3 points since I was in grade 7.

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It’s important, I think, to take some history into account when considering what IQ tests are, and what they are actually measuring.

 

The modern idea of an intelligence quotient defines it as the ratio of the number of age-appropriate tasks one can successfully complete to one’s chronological age. The raw test results are used to calculate a single IQ, which is adjusted to that population average is 100, and a standard deviation is 10. The sample distribution is assumed to be normal, an well-supported assumption. Although many variant test exist, the idea of a single, development-sensitive IQ test, and this numbering scheme, is usually called the Stanford-Binet IQ test, after its originator, turn-of-the-20th century psychologist Alfred Binet, and Stanford university, where, in 1916, the test was revised and became much more well known.

 

So a person with an IQ of 100 is exactly average, 50th percentile, with 50% of the population scoring higher, 50% lower, on the same test. A person with an IQ of 120 (a z-score of 2) is in the 2.275 percentile, scoring better than 97.725% of the population. A person with an IQ of 140 – a “genius”, according to the earliest standard IQ terminology - is in the 0.003167 percentile, scoring better than 99.996833% of the population. At a current population of 6,500,000,000, this works out to there being about 205,000 living geniuses in the world.

 

A person with an IQ of 190 is in roughly the 10^-17th percentile. Of the estimated 10^11 people who have ever lived, this means there’s been about a 10^-6, one-in-a-million chance that anyone has ever had an IQ of 190.

 

Popular IQ tests, though most retain the 100-is-average numbering scheme, have little connection to the attempted statistical rigor of early tests. Without this, their value is questionable, especially when comparing results of one test to another.

 

As a teenager in the 1970s, my curiosity drove me to take the mail-based Mensa IQ test. Its instructions clearly stated that there was not time limit, that I should be free to use research materials other than a “how to take the Mensa test” guide, but not to ask others for help on the test, so, suspicious of the validity of this approach but wanting to do as well as possible, I carefully spent tens of hours on the test until I was confident I had, as nearly as I was capable, gotten all the questions correct. Hoping I would at least score in the 120s or 130s, I was flabbergast when my score came back 240, a statistical absurdity if the test was modeled after the SBIQT the numbering scheme of which it purported to use.

 

More astonishing, when I bragged of my supra-genius scores, several people argued that 240 was not that good an IQ, and that their scores were in the 300s!

 

Since then, I’ve been disinclined to associate with people who talk a lot about their IQ scores, and inclined to encourage people to learn sufficient statistics to recognize the absurdity of test result that indicate that enough people to form a club are all smarter than anyone who has ever lived. :hihi:

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YOUR IQ SCORE IS:

 

136

 

Your score places you in the top five percent of the population. This qualifies you for membership in the International High IQ Society.

 

AND I STILL CAN'T SPELL :hihi:

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I guess I'll have to take a state licensed IQ test before I can compare this test's accuracy...

 

yes, definitely

"pen and paper" tests are notoriously unreliable and culturally and socially biased.

IQ tests don't really test for intelligence.

They merely test what IQ tests test.

 

A proper Weshler test administered by a trained Clinical Psychologist is useful in determining areas of the brain that might be damaged and for some limited, clinical, diagnostic uses.

I would never allow a child of mine to have an IQ test, unless there was a medical reason for it.

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Michaelangelica, I had one done by a Clinical Psychologist when I was in grade 7. (back in the 1970's)

 

I had always had a problem throughout school keeping myself awake or focused. If I did not have an interest in the subject my brain would shut down and I would literally go to sleep. I had no way of controlling this.

 

The results showed I was not brain dead (129 IQ with comprehension at a grade 11 level), and the Psychologist suggested that I build a machine that kicked me in the *** every 10-15 minutes.

 

Turns out that an IQ is not a measure of how mechanically adept one is... I never got it to work.

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Michaelangelica, I had one done by a Clinical Psychologist when I was in grade 7. (back in the 1970's)

me too

 

I had always had a problem throughout school keeping myself awake or focused. If I did not have an interest in the subject my brain would shut down and I would literally go to sleep. I had no way of controlling this.

Sounds more like a food intollerance/allergy eg check out

Lactose, casin, glutin

One unfortunate person I heard of, was allergic to plastic, and fell asleep everytime he sat on a plastic chair (He was a university professor)

 

The results showed I was not brain dead (129 IQ with comprehension at a grade 11 level), and the Psychologist suggested that I build a machine that kicked me in the *** every 10-15 minutes.

Typical bull-**** advice that comes from not understanding IQ tests.

How helpful a psychologist is that!!???

 

Turns out that an IQ is not a measure of how mechanically adept one is... I never got it to work.

It is rare that one functions highly in all aspects of the tests

 

IQ tests were originally designed by the French Education Department to keep out of school anyone they thought would not benefit from education.

 

They are too misundertood by the lay public, teachers, and even psychologists (judging from your remarks).

There is too much of a tendency for the Pygmalian Effect to operate

 

eg

You can quite easily increase the IQ of achild by wispering sotto voca that he /she is a"late-bloomer". Test one year later and IQ has gone up 5+ points

Rosenthall is one of the people who did some of the Pygmalion Effect research (If my very poor memory serves me!?)

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136

 

Your score places you in the top five percent of the population. This qualifies you for membership in the International High IQ Society.

 

AND I STILL CAN'T SPELL :eek_big:

 

 

I got the exact same invite the last time I took an IQ test.

 

But I really don't care.... for such... uhhh.... gatherings of.... uhhh.... humans.

 

Humans freak me out, man.

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I got the exact same invite the last time I took an IQ test.

 

But I really don't care.... for such... uhhh.... gatherings of.... uhhh.... humans.

 

Humans freak me out, man.

 

I go with the "I don't want to be a member of any club that would have me as a member" approach. Oh wait that would mean I have to disappear from Hypo.:)

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