That Rascal Puff Posted November 29, 2005 Report Posted November 29, 2005 Your title has been changed.Brilliant meeting some of the voices that reverberate inside your head.I am now officially along for the ride. One small request though, Puff...You may call me Irish. You may call me IrishEyes. You may even call me "that bossy female admin" if you wish. But please, please, please NEVER call me "IE". If my good friend alexander (another Moderator around here) were to see that, he might just send me a computer virus. And if my husband were to see that, he might just make me sleep on the couch. :( ****************** :) Dear Irish Eyes (Turtle, Torbo 'n InfamouSteadfast too?):Regarding the no-no on your initials?At Your (however tenderly tough?) Command.Kudo's to your husband 'n Alexander. (((We never made it past E-3 but were responsible for everyone and every thing on three different kinds of small craft - command authority for 31/2 years, before we were 21))). Of course we're bragging. (Somebody's gotta do it?) Okay Turtle.Total Field Theory is; may as well be. (Until further notice?)It's not really my word sequence. The field theory people from way back have (continuously?) used that term, though I know of no such Title, per se. Well. By your leaves; allow me; etceteras. (Amateur drum roll & Zildjen cymbal clash?) Penguin Publishers. DICTIONARY OF SCIENCE"Field - The region in which an electrically charged body (see electric field), a magnetized body (see magnetic field), or a massive body (see gravitational field) excerts its influence,. There may also be said to be a field between nucleons in extremely close proximity (less than 10-13 cm) as a result of exchange forces. A field is thus a model for representing the way in which a force can exist between bodies not in contact." Sort of an ice-breaker? (Pro genitor?) Dear Hearts. We all have our ebbs 'n flows of preoccupation. Presently this party is predisposed to focusing on an incipient essay addressed to some officials of the Bureau of Veterans Affairs. It will eventually be published. I'm prepping it's rough draft for the scrutinization of significant others; then we'll all edit it to our mutual satisfaction and forward it to 'the BVA rarely makes mistakes'. Yah. It's a documented list of their mistakes. (It's a considerably extended, rare, list? ;) ;) :) ) The rough draft is scheduled - and expected - to be submitted tomorrow. Each and all of you is an honor to relate to. Thank you for being there and here. Question: When high flying migratory birds such as ducks and geese, are avoiding the air resistance at lower and correspondingly more dense and resistant altitudes, flying in a V formation, generating an air-foil; taking turns moving from the widened end of the V, where the airfoil makes it the most easy part of the formation to fly in, intermittantly going to the front, with the point flyers cutting the air and taking the most resistance, then taking their turns at the widened end of the formation, where it's easiest to fly... etceteras...The question is, why, in some cases, is one side of the V formation, alternately longer and shorter than the other? :) Best regards to all of You & Yours. - Puff ;) Quote
Turtle Posted November 29, 2005 Author Report Posted November 29, 2005 ****************** :) Okay Turtle.Total Field Theory is; may as well be. (Until further notice?)It's not really my word sequence. The field theory people from way back have (continuously?) used that term, though I know of no such Title, per se. Well. By your leaves; allow me; etceteras. (Amateur drum roll & Zildjen cymbal clash?) Penguin Publishers. DICTIONARY OF SCIENCE"Field - The region in which an electrically charged body (see electric field), a magnetized body (see magnetic field), or a massive body (see gravitational field) excerts its influence,. There may also be said to be a field between nucleons in extremely close proximity (less than 10-13 cm) as a result of exchange forces. A field is thus a model for representing the way in which a force can exist between bodies not in contact." Sort of an ice-breaker? (Pro genitor?) Question: When high flying migratory birds such as ducks and geese, are avoiding the air resistance at lower and correspondingly more dense and resistant altitudes, flying in a V formation, generating an air-foil; taking turns moving from the widened end of the V, where the airfoil makes it the most easy part of the formation to fly in, intermittantly going to the front, with the point flyers cutting the air and taking the most resistance, then taking their turns at the widened end of the formation, where it's easiest to fly... etceteras...The question is, why, in some cases, is one side of the V formation, alternately longer and shorter than the other? :) Best regards to all of You & Yours. - Puff ;)Ice breaker acknowledged; definition entered & accepted. No further symantic quibling allowed on that record. A: You don't send the navigator up the mast to trim the sail. You put him at leisure where he can best sense the prevailing conditions. In regard to my use of the word Stick; it is my understanding that in Scotland the name Kent's etymology derives to "open country" & elswhere in Britain derives to "walking stick". The commonality is obvious & the association I leave to others make clear.Where's Waldo now? Quote
That Rascal Puff Posted November 29, 2005 Report Posted November 29, 2005 Ice breaker acknowledged; definition entered & accepted. No further symantic quibling allowed on that record. A: You don't send the navigator up the mast to trim the sail. You put him at leisure where he can best sense the prevailing conditions. In regard to my use of the word Stick; it is my understanding that in Scotland the name Kent's etymology derives to "open country" & elswhere in Britain derives to "walking stick". The commonality is obvious & the association I leave to others make clear.Where's Waldo now?************************* Thank you Turtle: A. Is a more than adequately salty dolphin spanker & focs'le planker (AhHar)? Thanks for acknowledging the riveting security of 'field' as it may be fairly or otherwise contested. It may be fairly added to, but not likely to be subtracted from. Hadn't thought of and did not know about your provided Scot 'open country' sobriquet. Thank you once again (We thought this post was exclusively yours, but now we're better informed?) My understanding of 'Kent' is that sure enough it's originally Scot (Halfbreed Scot-Mongolian here. Mom spoke fluent Sami Finn White Mongolian; her Maiden name was 'Savolainen' - it means a certain location where someone with that name originated). Martta ('Kata') was 1st generation from Northern Finland. Six months away from her Ph.D in Optometry, when she became pregnant with who would become the eldest of my two elder siblings (are, unfortunately, legally and morally foredoomed by themselves, and, cannot stop the bubble machine or the ballroom music? Hardscience, for example - by countless other handles and monikers - works diligently for them and probly doesn't even know that, either. He's as culpable as they are. Accessory. Federal code title 18, conspiracy. Multiple pedophilia; many acolytes all over the net. <'If you can't govern, educate, elucidate or illuminate: entertain. P.S. Go for the crotch'. - K.B. - TRP - Robertson; etceteras.> There's only one thing worse than a pestophile, and that's one of those that blames it on someone else. Only thing as bad as a pestophile that blames it on someone else, is: all the poople who help him do it. - TRP). What I have learned of 'Kent' is that it's the name of the last Celtic barbarian tribe to be driven from - the presently named - U.K. - Great Britain. After dispersing the original Celt - Scot Irish - residents, the Romans founded Londinium on the Thebes (aka 'Themes' - the huge loop of tidal channel that looks like a river but is contiguous with the ocean), displacing the Celts in about the same time window as the birth of Christ. Lotta places just north of London called 'the Baths', cuza naturally heated springs 'n mineral water - amazing history all the way around 'the Island', as it were (When an island gets large enough it's called a continent?) ((Tie me kangaroos down, Mate?))Which reminds our panel of editors. Mr McCutch may be specializing in getting where he's headed for before he departs where he left. We'll see how long he emboldens ignorance of 'The Axe's' thin lips and avoids kissing them ;) I know not who or where Waldo is. (Have we need of him? Paging Ralph Emerson? 'If the red slayer thinks he has slain, and the slain think themselves slain, they know not well my subtle ways, I keep and turn, and hold again'. Brahma, by R.W. Emerson.) Have you ever read THE JUNGLE, by Upton Sinclair? (Just asking?) Answer: The reason that one line in the > formations of migratory high flying birds is sometimes longer or shorter than the other is because there are fewer or greater numbers of birds in the correspondingly shorter or longer line. Hey Demi-Goddess: whaddya mean yer gonna be some kinda Gypsy cart wall flower along for the ride? (Putting yerself at liesure where you can best sense the prevailing conditions?) ;) Somewhere's on Sergey 500's thread, I think, someone (cc?) said something about how the physical universe obviously isn't expanding - doesn't come up to meet 'floating objects'. As a matter of fact, no, it doesn't. What the exemplary surface of the Earth does, is: when something is suspended or lifted and then dropped/released from a location above the Earth's surface, it isn't floating (it only does that in deep space, or, within Einstein's descending elevator - coordinate system, or on the inside of a pilot determined parabolic arc, where the passengers are temporaily weightless...). What an object dropped from above the Earth's surface is doing, is continuing to travel upward in a straight line at the velocity that was last imparted on it, from the moment the dropped object was disinherited from the upward traveling inertia of whatever was holding or suspending, and then dropped it. Still traveling straight Y'up. Whereas, at that moment, it gets 'left behind' and discontinues it's rate of acceleration, consequently, though still moving upward, the continuously accelerating Earth's surface outpaces, overtakes and strikes it. Sort of like moving at the speed limit on the freeway and having someone accelerate into you instead of adjusting to your speed. (Now you know?) ((Know you now?)) - Puff :) Quote
IrishEyes Posted November 29, 2005 Report Posted November 29, 2005 Reading this thread is BETTER than reading a Robbins novel, and that is not something that I say lightly.Thank you, gentle men, for including me in this very amazing whirlwind of sight and sound. Oh that I could actually hear you speak the words instead of just reading them myself... I fear I might sit at your table and pour you coffee all night, just for the pleasure of your company.What? You don't care for my cup'o'wakey? Well, I can pour other things as well. Just tell me your pleasure, and I'm happy to keep it flowing, as long as I get to experience this maddening genius firsthand...I can hardly wait for the next installment. Quote
Turtle Posted November 29, 2005 Author Report Posted November 29, 2005 ************************* Thank you Turtle: Thanks for acknowledging the riveting security of 'field' as it may be fairly or otherwise contested. It may be fairly added to, but not likely to be subtracted from.... ...I know not who or where Waldo is. (Have we need of him? Paging Ralph Emerson? 'If the red slayer thinks he has slain, and the slain think themselves slain, they know not well my subtle ways, I keep and turn, and hold again'. Brahma, by R.W. Emerson.) Have you ever read THE JUNGLE, by Upton Sinclair? (Just asking?) Answer: The reason that one line in the > formations of migratory high flying birds is sometimes longer or shorter than the other is because there are fewer or greater numbers of birds in the correspondingly shorter or longer line. Hey Demi-Goddess: whaddya mean yer gonna be some kinda Gypsy cart wall flower along for the ride? (Putting yerself at liesure where you can best sense the prevailing conditions?) :) Somewhere's on Sergey 500's thread, I think, someone (cc?) said something about how the physical universe obviously isn't expanding - doesn't come up to meet 'floating objects'. As a matter of fact, no, it doesn't. What the exemplary surface of the Earth does, is: when something is suspended or lifted and then dropped/released from a location above the Earth's surface, it isn't floating (it only does that in deep space, or, within Einstein's descending elevator - coordinate system, or on the inside of a pilot determined parabolic arc, where the passengers are temporaily weightless...). What an object dropped from above the Earth's surface is doing, is continuing to travel upward in a straight line at the velocity that was last imparted on it, from the moment the dropped object was disinherited from the upward traveling inertia of whatever was holding or suspending, and then dropped it. Still traveling straight Y'up. Whereas, at that moment, it gets 'left behind' and discontinues it's rate of acceleration, consequently, though still moving upward, the continuously accelerating Earth's surface outpaces, overtakes and strikes it. Sort of like moving at the speed limit on the freeway and having someone accelerate into you instead of adjusting to your speed. (Now you know?) ((Know you now?)) - Puff ;) ___First things last. Now I know & know I now, & furhter now I know I know. And as well it matters not (resistance of air withstanding) whether the dropped object is a grain of sand or a shotter's put, it behaves just the same. Accelerates up at the rate last imparted with no regard for its mass & meets the Earth at, or in, precisely the same time. (I recall the record Galileo proved the case of my addition with his inclines & balls.)___How silly of me to overcomplicate an eschalon of geese; I who chide dismissing the trivial. In a system of any straight lines, the paramount feature is length as the first straight line which procedes at right angles from a point has but 1-Dimension & length it is.___I may have read the Jungle, but I don't recall.___Waldo is the subject of a popular series of books wherin he is placed in a complex drawing & the reader is challenged to find him there; ergo, where's Waldo. We have a Waldo smiley; here he is:;) ___The field is secure for sure, as well as any definition you give. I must accept them because that is their purpose, i.e to identify what terms we use & how. Whether I believe a definition is moot, although it helps accelerate things if I also believe it.___Now first things last, my pleasure Sir. As I have cast this lot as characters, may I further set the scene? Our voyage is on the sea, our vessel a sailing ship, this thread is she. Aboard we have our Angel guard & ardent scribe. The owner of our little ship (and an entire fleet no less) is Tormod, & who better than a viking to foster such a venture. Hail Tormod! Now my role may escape you, so I'll clarify. The Kaptain is Kent & I Turtle turn the vessel over now to his command; name her as you will Captain, tis the right of all skippers.___Now until or less we take more vetted crew aboard, that leaves one more, & that is I, & he is me. What role? Why cabin boy of course; precosious cabin boy.___The tide ebbs; we sail! Quote
infamous Posted November 29, 2005 Report Posted November 29, 2005 Of course you're invited dear lady. I see you speak a little Puffian yourself. As you also have a familiarity with firearms & understand 'look but don't touch', you would honor us if you serve as our formal Sgt. at arms. I will point out targets to you by first shooting them.How completely synchrontic that you mention 'triangle', so early on. Let us preambulate.B)Speaking for myself, I've never been very good with the gift of gab, even though I've always admired those individuals blessed with it. At any rate, thak you Turtle for the invite, I'll give it my best shot..................Infy. Quote
Turtle Posted November 29, 2005 Author Report Posted November 29, 2005 Speaking for myself, I've never been very good with the gift of gab, even though I've always admired those individuals blessed with it. At any rate, thak you Turtle for the invite, I'll give it my best shot..................Infy. There is no obligation to gab, & I didn't write the invitation, but just made sure it was received. Climb aboard & stow your cargo.B) ******************B) Dear Irish Eyes (Turtle, Torbo 'n InfamouSteadfast too?): Okay Turtle.Total Field Theory is; may as well be. (Until further notice?)It's not really my word sequence. The field theory people from way back have (continuously?) used that term, though I know of no such Title, per se. Best regards to all of You & Yours. - Puff B) Climb aboard & stow your cargo. Like life, this is not about a destination, but a voyage. :) Quote
Turtle Posted November 29, 2005 Author Report Posted November 29, 2005 Reading this thread is BETTER than reading a Robbins novel, and that is not something that I say lightly.Thank you, gentle men, for including me in this very amazing whirlwind of sight and sound. Oh that I could actually hear you speak the words instead of just reading them myself... I fear I might sit at your table and pour you coffee all night, just for the pleasure of your company.What? You don't care for my cup'o'wakey? Well, I can pour other things as well. Just tell me your pleasure, and I'm happy to keep it flowing, as long as I get to experience this maddening genius firsthand...I can hardly wait for the next installment. ___Irish, my pleasure of your company as well. For you & your cherubs have all the faculty to 'know' exactly what we are talking about. Puff - our Magic Dragon - has defined fields & I accepted it with a clarification one may accept a definition without 'believing' it. Home Experiment For All Ages. 1 magnet (any kind will do); 1 bunch of small iron/steel pieces (a box of sewing pins will do) .**Pour out the metal pieces on a piece of papaer & observe their condition. Now holding the magnet, move it close to the metal pieces in every way you can imagine, particularly from below the paper. [the smaller the pieces the more detailed the effect] The metal pieces 'line up' in looping segments along 'Magnetic Field Lines'. They exist around the magnetic whether you arrange to 'See' them or not, but now you 'See' a 'Field'.////Now as we have the very ideas of no less than Einstein, Newton, Galileo, Fuller, Archimedes, etc. under scrutiny here - albeit sometimes obscured by our levels deep metaphors; what secret language?B) -I wish to put them in a proper perspective. All of them have their greatness come by the same boat so to speak. Their ideas came as epiphanies, that is, sudden insights into a truth about the world they see. The math & descriptions don't come but later, as a means to describe the epiphany, or explain it to others if you will. Ergo the saying 'Let those who have eyes see'. The secret knowledge is not in a book; it is a book. The ability to symbolize epiphanies in a stable form in order to perpetuate them. Hiding in the open.Please all do the experiment, even if that means you're just 'doing it again'.B) http://hypography.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=619&c=3 Quote
infamous Posted November 30, 2005 Report Posted November 30, 2005 ___Please all do the experiment, even if that means you're just 'doing it again'.B) http://hypography.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=619&c=3This is an experiment which I've done on several occasions and am always amazed with the patterns that develope. Acknowledging the existence of these associated fields answers the question about their influence on the surrounding enviornment but I still am curious for an answer to what they truly are, realistically speaking. I understand that science explains this phenomenon as the bending of space/time itself but that doesn't answer the question; What is the character or makeup of this thing we call space/time? I started a thread in Physics and Math; Action at a distance which I try to explain my dissatisfaction with the current explanations given by science for present theory about this topic. My point is this; For action to occur at distance, space must have substance, it cannot be characterized as nothingness. Nobody has yet developed a satisfactory answer for what this substance is, at least not to my satisfaction. I'm waiting for answers which are logical and understandable for someone like myself. That is to say, a layman of sorts but never-the-less someone that recognizes the truth when he sees it. Dear Mr. Puff, can you help me understand this missing link in my understanding of field theory? If you can, it will be the first and only time that anyone has ever opened the window of my understanding to this question..............................Thanks.................Infy Quote
IrishEyes Posted November 30, 2005 Report Posted November 30, 2005 Turtle,We will, we will, we will. We will do the experiment, and I may even take some pictures of us in the process. However, it will not be until next week, as school is on hold pending the departure and return of mama-bird to the wake. (By wake I am not referring to all of those gorgeous bubbles behind the boat that just beg for a jump when on water skis, either...)Question: Can you water ski behind a sail boat? Puff - You seemed to refer to the military a bit. We were just plain ol' ordinary sailors, he for four, me for ten. Loved the life, but now really enjoy living. I'm guessing you might understand that statement. We never got to do fun stuff like navigation though... he was all into intel, and I was a dit-and-dot-head. Turtle would have loved my job, it was all about math. And I was good at it too. I have no idea why I put it all in a locked box in my brain and threw out the key when my time was up. Now I fear the key may be with Davery Jones locker. <------------- Hey, Turtle-man/cabin boy...can you guide us in that direction, so I can unlock that part of my brain again? B) Quote
That Rascal Puff Posted November 30, 2005 Report Posted November 30, 2005 B) TRP is going to get all of You Charlie Brown's, for this inexcusable, ongoing abuse.(We just experimentally started a new 'thread' at Hypography Forum Index selection 'General Science' at the advise of collusionism. Still thinking about Turtle's selection of 'Kabin Boy'. Isn't that a skosh diminutive for a master such as Yerself? Yes. It is entirely possible to water ski under tow from a wind powered canvas flying sailboat. Not much on being under canvas propulsion here. Useta do three different kinds of GRAY MARINE Diesel engines though. Single and multiple screws (no Freud here; just salt water immersed, rotating inclined planes). Glad you do math, IrishEyes, because we are rully sparse on that sage here. As semi feral barbarians, we do blue sky - Tengri, and other pagan fixated Totem - worshipping, lotus meditation and 32 counts of Tai Chi in Moon and Sun time with Kenpo (Not to be confused with Kendo - Incidentally, while I'm falling further in love with my own image at Springwater's place, 'Kent' is also Mongolian, for 'Mountain'. And now this: Ashura is our idol. We intend to be instrumental in re-installing the original Universal Matriarchy. Because: Mother (when she's not aping awry male behavior and only humanly being one of the boys) knows Best. Answer of the Day (Who knew?): The difference between a seasoned soldier and a SCUD missile is: a SCUD missile stops whining when it hits the beach. (This is a sorta 'innercircle' Grunt joke. Kinda like only the African lineaged people can use the 'N' word about themselves with general impunity.) The Horses Are At The Gates (and now they're off-uh?) Sorta like Truly Yers fer example being among the epicanthically folded, semi-slant eyed dinky Luke the Gooks, though the Asian side of my HalfBreed history is morphologically precluded by the Scot half. White Mongolians originated in Central Asia. Some of them migrated to Northern Finland a coupla thousand years ago. There are Nomadic Laplanders that dwell in Northen Scandinavian Circles in and around the Land of the Midnight Sun, but they too originated in Northern Finland, the Finns having in turn, originated in Central Asia. Philology tells us that the Mongolian language is unto itself apart from Chinese,while the bloodline is the same, the White Mongolians from Central Asia lost their melanin due to SubArctic minimal sun exposure. They're not uncommonly blond, strawberry blond and red haired, blu-green eyed people; whereas they have distinctly Asian features. Northern Minnesota teems with them in small towns; they are otherwise relatively obscure, all over the world; even in their Northern Finn homeland. They follow the reindeer, the reindeer follow the seasons. Hence nomadic. First people to methodologically use animals in warfare, namely reindeer, were originally used as horses later came to be used. We've been eating horses for all three and a half million homosapien years, but we only began to domesticate and ride them about ten thousand years ago. Sami Finns are generally small of physical stature and biologically enhanced with disproportionately powerful upper body strength and high metabolism. They characteristically don't get overweight, even to this day. They wielded 150 pound pull 'Nomadic Recurve, Composite - 'Cupid's Bows'. A dozen different kinds of arrows for specialized usages. Put a quarrel through heavy body armor - which they did not wear - from 300 yards, at a full gallop, from their relatively small, high endurance Prezhevolski Steppe ponies. When they released the bolt, it was done at a moment when all four of their ponie's hooves were off the ground; so as to insure uncanny accuracy, compensation for windage and properly 'leading' a moving target, etceteras. They shot geese out of the air - began training to make war - which is all they did for a living, as the most formidable and least known culture on the EuroAsian Continent. India, Russia, Western Europe, China - all paid tribute to them so as to bribe them from pillaging and burning with no army in the world that could stop them, until the advent of pyrotechnically projected missiles from metal tubes issued to all infantry troops in Europe; this transition - the end of the domination of the world by the Horsepeople ('Who?'), began to descend from about mid 1300 on. The last Chinese Dynasty was the Ming, and they perished under the rifled cannon and modern technology of the Republic of China, in 1911 A.D. Hungary (the place of the Hun Horsepeople), Poland, East Germany, the Slav soverigns all fell to the Chinese Mongol General, Batu Khan, and an Eagle Prince (Orkhon) protege of Genghis Khan, one Subedai Bahadur, 'Of The Reindeer People'. Genghis, the Kha Khan - the first and only nomad leader to unify all 90 Steppe dwelling tribes - described Subedai as 'the best general in the world'. A compliment such as that from Genghis Khan is a solemn kudo-kiai. The Dragon's Jaws. Batu and Subedai subdued all of Eastern Europe (the 'buffer zone', insulating Western Europe from the ever impinging Eastern Barbarian Horsepeople culture), in two and a half years, between 1238 and 1241 A.D. Crakow, Poland, made the mistake of beholding these small statured people riding their small statured horses, and sent 80, Templar Knight Cavalrymen on Heavy Horses, with as many Hospitilars, out of the Gates of Cracow to meet 60,000 Chinese Mongols, in the field (instead of staying inside their fortification - Cracow, proper, where they may have survived, since the early, 1st generation of Genghis were not well versed in siege warfare, whereas, the former cavalry army was ignorant of the superb tactics of the Horsepeople cultured Chinese Mongols, with the Templars, including the Royalty of Hungary, perishing to the last of 80,00 men, in one day. Their tactics varied, but the principles orbited the tactic of yielding, and then very suddenly and unexpectedly filling the resulting vacuum of their having unexpectedly yielded. Conventional empty handed Asian martial arts employs the same general tactics and philosophy. The European enemy did not recognize the dragon as such; then tickled its tail, thenceforth bringing perishment upon themselves. 'The tolughma, or 'standard sweep' was among their most employed and successful tactics. They would divide into a well organized light and heavy cavalry. The light cavalry would distance themselves to the north - above - the enemy element; which was usually unaware of that northern element of light cavalry. The heavy cav would engage the enemy vigorously of itself; then the light cavalry would fall down from north of the thoroughly preoccupied, diverted enemy. This was a 'pincer maneuvre, the Mongolians called 'the Dragon's Jaws'. Also known as 'Death From Above'. The empty handed martial arts counterpart for it is several variations of sweeping a man's lower body one way, while simultaneously sweeping his upper body in the opposite direction. When properly done, the enemy is not only unhorsed or knocked off his feet to merely fall on the ground. The lower body - feet and legs, 'go south', while the upper torso, arms and head, 'go north', resulting in striking the ground very hard, after which time there are a dozen and more very prompt ways of dispatching the grounded opponent, so that he cannot stand back up and become a threat to you again. Outside of the only recently very popular - often misrepresented - imported Asian pedestrian warrior tactics, this cavalry business is only marginally accessible history, since the Barbarians were illiterate and did not keep history, whereas, civilized people did keep history, and because they were subordinate - and payed tribute - to illiterate, pagan worshipping Barbarians, the civilized scholars and ink slingers didn't want to talk about it. Though the history - as my Mother taught me - is there for those who pursue its obscure placements - philology, the study of the evolution of languages, tells us more about the history of civilized and barbarian peoples, than forensic, physical artifacts and paleantological, anthropological 'digs'. The HorsePeople were bonded by nomadic culture rather than race. There are but three races: Negroid. Mongoloid and Caucasoid. Every other biological variation is one kind of 'cross-bred' infusion or other, of those three principle race groups, the 'infusions' usually occurred due to warfare, pillage propertization of people; certainly including rapine. Organized warfare is exactly as old as 'citification' - literally translated as 'Civilization', the meat and potatos of a culture that did no agriculture, very little trading and a vast amount of raiding, for a living. The reason that Patton and Rommel avidly studied their insuperable, omnipotently dauntless tactics, in my own lifetime. QUESTION of the day: How many seasoned soldiers does it take to change a lighbulb? (You may stand, sit. sleep or carelessly lounge, at ease?) (((We are gonna get all of You Charlie Brown impersonators for this recent sequence of unprovoked abuses and harshly spoken sentiments. We are not accustomed to this sort of treatment around here and now we must find some way to knit and perl, or otherwise produce a Linus blanket, or counterpart for same, for each and every of you larboard sandbaggers.))) - Poof Quote
Turtle Posted November 30, 2005 Author Report Posted November 30, 2005 ___First things first then this time around.TRP is going to get all of You Charlie Brown's, for this inexcusable, ongoing abuse.(We just experimentally started a new 'thread' at Hypography Forum Index selection 'General Science' at the advise of collusionism. Still thinking about Turtle's selection of 'Kabin Boy'. Isn't that a skosh diminutive for a master such as Yerself?___I have just returned from a tour of the new ship & recognizing the cargo & what more of it is yet ashore, I see I secured a ship of insufficient size for the voyage at hand. ___Master indeed! I started life a precosious Kabin Boy & so have served many masters in that capacity for years that only scores & squares may count. No too few of them may have heard me wish aloud "some day I'll be a captain too". I am 10% childish & 90% childlike. I am not cut from a Master's cloth, nor they of mine. I know my place - if not better now - & it's value. I would empty a month of Sunday's of a Master's chamberpot for a single opportunity to catch a morsel of Truth from their table.___Now having come to your chance aquaintence & knowing Captains when they I sea, I marked my compass, shot my Sun, & checked my watch. Now all that you may say is evidence contrary to diminuativity, & I have to pause to try & stop myself from convulsions of laughter. Size is relative of course & the closer I draw to you the smaller I grow while away big growing go you. ___Whether the flap of a Butterly's gossamer wing, or the break of wind from a diminuative turtle, small movements may - do - precipitate large movements of complexity not revelaed by any constituent parts.___I have no end of experiments in mind to work aboard this ship that may help in 'Seeing' the Truth of things. As I have often quoted myself, "Nothing is not connected". I append that to say "Nothing is not a line that is not connected at right angles".____I have now my magnet(s) & pins to play with until the Angel & her Cherubs have a report on their play.B)PS Dragon's Jaw:Right AnglePPS Mongol Descendants In Russia: Udeghe Tribe> See Khu> See Spinning Button On a String Thread>Right Angle Acoustic Demonstration Of Wave Propogation In A Field Quote
infamous Posted November 30, 2005 Report Posted November 30, 2005 I request an answer to a simple question TRP. I've been reading your work and am considerably impressed with the concept of expanding material 3-D bodies in space. It all works very nicely if one leaves out the notion that space itself is also expanding. Can you qualify your position on the matter of expanding space. For this theory to be correct, only matter can be expanding and space between bodies must remain static. With my limited knowledge of the topic, my logical interpretation would have to also include the expandsion of space along with material bodies. Can you explain to me why only material bodies are expanding and space is not.......................Infy Quote
That Rascal Puff Posted November 30, 2005 Report Posted November 30, 2005 IrishEyes'nSigOther: "Dit and dot head?" (Morse Code? Binary System?) "Intel". (Military classified 'spooks'? Crypto?) You humble us, Ma'am. On one hand I can count the number of times that's happened. 'Cup o wakey'? Honored to hear me talk? Have you not heard that all of the party baloons burst when you meet the author of work you formerly adulated? I don't usually tell people I've authored anything. On the other hand, one of my very favorite storys is, About twenty five years ago on a GreyHound bus a young man sitting next to me over a cross country trip began talking about a book he'd read, where the author must have been blessed with several pounds of top quality hash-hish and Owsley prescription LSD from Switzerland... He talked about how gravity is the 4th dimension and all of it's soaring contingencies for two days off and on. How consciousness expanding and liberating it was. How he couldn't understand that the unknown author was unknown and why didn't somebody in the media pick up on it and how ducks that quack like the author of that small press distributed book are not heard to quack in the mainstream media and that this vacuum of communication is conspicuous by omisssion and how the majority of the world was anesthesized with trivia and violence as entertainment and how if people were bored with and/or didn't like the news, why don't they go out and make some positive contribution so as to generate some news of their own? On Luke Skywalkers light terms instead of Darth Vader's dark side. At the beginning of the third day he woke up to find me reading a book. It was an advanced edition of the one he'd read and he didn't recognize the cover right away. Then, when he did, he asked me where I got the book and talked about the limited number of them in the world and went back into wondering out loud that the world didn't have time or wasn't ready for information like that while on the other hand they were taking in stuff like what evolved into Beavis 'n Butthead (before they made the network TV big time and became a household word, along with the present paragon of quality educational entertainment such as South Park, but none of that existed yet in the national media and he spoke of the contorted stuff that was popular at that time and the elimination of quality communications so as to appeal to the lower chakras of the sociopolitical white lines on the cultural highway. As he spoke he was looking at the text of the book and several times asked where I got this new edition he hadn't seen before and how much of it had I read and why didn't I tell him I had a copy earlier. Eventually, before he could question my credibility I just removed my wallet from my top shirt pocket (light body armor) and exhibited my driver's license. He quit talking for about ten consecutive minutes, as though I was Jupiter or maybe even Zeus. When he began to speak again he had already related to me respectfully and now I was in awe of him at his awe of me. I'm not used to encountering people who've read my book in the middle of this big old world with so many books in it and so few of mine. It was a million to one that he would encounter me that way or conversely. The rule is that an author's reverent readers are disappointed when they discover that the writing stick wielder (actually, I wore out three typewriters to the point they could no longer be repaired before hi tech came in with word processors I could afford and went to them, calling them 'super typewriters'. I kept hearing about the forthcoming internet long before it got here and I was personally aware of computers that wore out clutches rolling big magnetic tapes and only did limited chores especially like punch binary cards to make out enormous payrolls and stuff like that for military bases and banks and large corporate state backed offices that could afford to pay a quarter million dollars annually just to lease and never own a computer that was as large as a three story house and troublesome as a colony of fleas on a mastadon. Customer engineer repairmen in almost daily to adjust this or replace that and now all of it is being carried in the front shirt pocket as inadvertant body armor that is TV and internet and video games and movies and instant communication with lithium rechargeable batteries, bells, buttons and whistles and it was like a cowboy hat to me. Other people look ok in them but it's just not my kinda hat and I don't wear 'em and I don't know how to use the internet and have only an inkling of what it might do in the way of getting my book to the world, never being interested in what money it might make for me and throwing what extra money I had into paying printers to do limited numbers of books for me which I traveled all over in a borrowed car selling to bookstores on consignment. And then here was a person I had reached that didn't know I was the one who reached him and he reached me with all that. Commended me on climbing the Golden Gate bridge in San Francisco, twice, for publicity. Suddenly a press that didn't have time for Einstein's Unified Field had time to rush to interview me with a bristle of microphones and a bustle of cameras asking me how I liked my coffee tea or daquiri and why did you climb the bridge so I answered that I wished to summon attention on to myself so's I could reach more people and tell them that the walls are perpendicular to the floor and that the night soil they are dog paddling in at the deep end of the chamberpot could easily be drained with the accompanying alligators and that gravity is the 4th dimension. Made page two of the following day's San Francisco Chronicle August 1971, the first time and that evening at the funny farm I got to watch myself watching me watching them interviewing me and showering me with all this attention I had indeed been trying to rustle up. The third time I climbed it I had to call the press because they didn't show up that time and when I told them I was in the funny farm again for a sojourn of being told that I was grandiosely deluded with thinking I'm smarter than Einstein and diagnosed as being a megalomaniacal wing nut. They said that's not news any more and they'd covered that story and didn't want to be redundant and boring. The kid cried for happy and disappointment at the way the world doesn't recognized things like this and misunderstands them for something or body else and complimented me on my apparent psychological resilience and character armor and modest demeanor and praised my only human self instead of being disappointed with it and he wasn't flirting with me because he loved women in a much different way. Heterosexual guy asking me for my autograph and unabashedly complimenting the strength apparent in my small but mighty physical stature which I often demonstrate only in the circumstantial sense that in a gathering of people where I usually stay away from crowds there'll be some women cooking in the kitchen and a sealed container of something they can't open will get brought to the biggest guy there and he'll try to open it and fail and then the sealed container will go to the next biggest guy and so on down the bigger is better line of testesterone and in some cases the container is so resilient to being adequately acted upon that it will actually wind up being handed as a last resort to me and I invariably open it within a few seconds of axial torque at which time a kind of hush will pass through the ranks and then someone will point out that it got loosened before it got to me and that's the story of my life and the same thing happens when some hirsute bad rapping usually alcoholically intoxicated or hard drug influenced intimidator will choose a sure thing which is what I often look like to them and nine out of ten times when I'm forced to defend myself or others I dispatch the aggressor with a bear hug because I usually don't want or need to strike people and instead they fall under the coils of an anaconda where every time withtheir arms pinned to their sides they exhale and I take up the resulting slack and in a short period time they aren't able to inhale at all and suffer an oxygen deficit which disables them and discourages them and all presiding bullie boys that I'm not the easy pickings they took me to be. It's the story of my baby faced, blond haired, small physically statured life that 16 inch arms can't be under that shirt I'm wearing at 5' 7" and 145 pounds, looking twenty years younger than I am and not at all like a former champion amateur boxer, gymnast, diver and aegis of women, children and anyone else who is being physically threatned or put upon. I was married in 1960 and loved my wife and wasn't poly substance abusing and never intimidated or struck her but something had changed inside me and I didn't know it was post traumatic stress disorder because there was no specific formal medical address to it known only as 'traumatic fatigue and shell shock and trench tremors and artillery ears and startle reaction and intrusive thoughts and panic attacks for no reason I was conscious of and I couldn't keep my marriage together and seperated from my beloved young wife after we had a boy child and when he was 13 months old and in September 2002 I finally got put on internet line by a friend of mine who also posted several of my books one of which included my son's name and he found me on the internet 19 March 2003 and I was single and had never again been married and his mother was single and I was invited to visit them in Pleasant Valley New York from Santa Cruz, California and three weeks later I was there and on 25 September of 2003 we were married (again) and she's a stabalized diabetic and now I get counseling and meds for severe and chronic Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and it's miraculous and easy and difficult and painful and joyful and miraculous and we love each other as we always had since we first met in New Jersey in early 1960 and eloped three months later. And loves you and your husband and friends and Turtle and Tormod and InfamouSteadfast and with all best wishes and regards to you and yours and now we can't believe that we've met you now too. You speak of me with such confidence and candor as Caryn does of me and I of her and she brags of the time that herself and several of her friends including me were in a diner together before we were married and five (other) Sailors I didn't know (That didn't know or sense Crazy Horse) were insulting a woman sitting by herself who happened to be a prostitute and I asked them to leave her alone and they said fork you punk and the guy behind the counter said take it outside so all five of them and me went outside as over two dozen people in the diner looked through the winter frozen and fogged windows out into the parking lot where I knew they would ratpack me if I didn't practice what my mother taught me since I was four years old so I dispatched with empty hands and sweeping feets and swaying torso and rolling hip, only this time I also struck blows, including crescent moon broomsticking one of the three of them so that his upper torso went south and from the hips down he went north and hit the pavement with a resounding thud and threw one on the trunk of a car and sun fisted the other in about ten seconds before they could encircle me and the other two ran. And I returned to the diner while an ambulance arrived and departed with one of them and the other was disallowed from returning and I was allowed and was admired and adored and hugged and kissed and joyfully subjected and lionized just like I would be a few months later when about the same thing happened in a restaurant in Naples only worse, but with the same momentarily happy ending which transformed to the perishment of my first fiance by former Blackshirt Fascisti who targeted her in retaliation against her parents who were Group Action Partisans in WW II and killed a lot of Nazis and helped the Allies take Europe back from Mussolini's SS; who murdered three of my mother's brothers that many gold stars in the early 40's window of her home at 816 Knight Street, Thief River Falls, Minnesota. And it is good to be alive and back with my wife and we are both so happy we met Turtle via Sergey500's thread and everything that's happened and is still happening since Please tell your husband TRP says he's an awe fully Fortunate Man. We Love You Each, Both and All. Thank you for reading this missive and if my dog Molly were alive she would mortally love all of you also. - Puff Quote
That Rascal Puff Posted November 30, 2005 Report Posted November 30, 2005 I request an answer to a simple question TRP. I've been reading your work and am considerably impressed with the concept of expanding material 3-D bodies in space. It all works very nicely if one leaves out the notion that space itself is also expanding. Can you qualify your position on the matter of expanding space. For this theory to be correct, only matter can be expanding and space between bodies must remain static. With my limited knowledge of the topic, my logical interpretation would have to also include the expandsion of space along with material bodies. Can you explain to me why only material bodies are expanding and space is not.......................Infy B) The interval between material bodies in context of an expanding universe as put forth by Sylpher, Einstein, De Sitter, Hubble, Bondi, & Gold ('Steady State Theory') is expanding. The cruising dorsal fin in your soup du jour is in the false premise you establish, and then build a non-tenable question upon; namely: "Can you explain to me why only material bodies are expanding and space is not.......................Infy" Dear InfySteadfast, consider this: Material bodies are - and space is -expanding. let me know if it resolves your equivocally founded, insubstantially grounded interrogative: The cause of the spatially expanding universe is the materially expanding universe; each material system (planet, star, gallaxy) or individually considered constituents (neutrons, electrons, protons, mu mesons, etceteras - sub atomic particles, each generating an electromagnetic field projected omnidirectionally from it's center, at the speed of light in accordance with Maxwell's equations) is - so far - invariably found to be an electromagnetic charge of electricity, often apocryphally called a 'particle', but, not one of which has ever been found to have a distinct, discreet, discontinuous 'surface', defining a discontinuous boundary seperating it from the 'space' that surrounds it. Consider this excerpt, as extracted from the (http://einstein.periphery.cc/ located) 6th edition, copyright 1999 hard cover, 52 page condensation of my 1979 copyrighted, 627 page edition of Gravity Is The 4th Dimension: ************** "Specifically, we learned from Maxwell that something does in fact move at right angles out of (4-D) matter, and that 'something' is electricity. Therefore Electricity Is The 5th Dimension. (Not a video game?) Including all video games. And gamers. Again, in compliance with the geometric definition for Dimensions, if any measurable entity moves at right angles from/to the 5th - whatever else it may be: it is also the 6th dimension. Indeed. Something does (*invariably) move at right angles to/perpendicular from 5 dimensional electricity, and that something is magnetism. Therefore, magnetism Is The 6th Dimension. (*Electricity and magnetism - until further notice - always accompany one another; at right angles. Bumper to bumper and side by side.) Of course, in order to recognize and identify The 5th & 6th Dimensions Of Electricity & Magnetism, one must first of all acknowledge and recognize The 4th Dimension of expanding Matter & accelerating G ravity. From which is projected the 5th and 6th physical dimensions of electromagnetic reality: Acting at a distance across space; projecting the law of the inverse square; at the speed of light; 'just like gravity.' In fact, finding gravity and electromagnetism to be, in every sense of the word, one and the same: a unified field. We may - presently opportune to - know, gravity on earth is caused by the electromagnetic 4-Dimensional acceleration of Matter. This generates a mechanical pushing or repelling force on or near the surface of major gravitational masses (such as planets); as clarified within Einstein's elevators of The General Principle. But, how does this account for action-at-a-distance across Space; generating atmospheric, oceanic and terrestrial tidal effects for example, and sustaining the orbiting of the planets? *Why don't their orbits collapse? Why don't they all (stellar objects, galaxies, stars, et al) collapse upon and/or collide with each other, through mutual gravitational attraction? (As Isaac Newton himself asked, and openly considered to be the major unresolved flaw in his own revolutionary system... *Two and a quarter centuries later, Einstein resolved Newton's problem with the Cosmological Constant - a repelling force paralleling conventionally perceived gravity, but acting in the opposite direction...) The answer to Newton's question is not in the 4-dimensional MassField gravity, on or near the surface of accelerantly expanding material systems - but rather the 5 & 6 dimensional ElectroMagnetic field generated by and projecting at right angles from material - 4 dimensional - sources (particles, charges; systems of same). That is to say, material bodies on or near the apparent surface of matter are gravitationally influenced to 'fall', or remain (mechanically-inertially / direct-contact/surface-to-surface) pinned against the earth's 4-Dimensionally accelerating surface. On the other hand, action-at-a-distance - specifically tidal effects and the orbiting of planets & moons - is gravitationally motivated by the 5th & 6th Dimensions of electricity and magnetism, respectively. Another way of realizing this is, when you are near and above a large 4-dimensional MassField, you fall, until your orbital vector outweighs the influence of gravity. Then your orbit is permanent; that is to say, you do not fall back to earth, but rather, around it. Having gone ballistically orbital. Summarily, in the case of permanent orbit you are repelled away from 4-D MassField Earth and kept in (ever enlarging, spiral shaped) orbit by the 5th & 6th Dimensions of ElectroMagnetism. The ElectroMagnetic fields of the planets (for example) are reciprocally conflicting with the electromagnetic field of the Sun (emits about one billion tons of radiantly transitory energy every four minutes). Hence, planets cannot fall into the Sun; due to their mutual opposition from (and toward) it - and they cannot escape it either. The retinue of planets arranged exactly about the sun (*Spun out as a molten mass with eight other major planets by centrifugal force from the sun’s spinning, equatorial ecliptic - the reason the nine known major planets are all approximately and/or precisely aligned with the sun’s equatorial latitude.), in the orders and orbits of Newton's indomitably calculated, universally gravitating retainer. Unarguably caused by a pulling force or a pushing force. Or, a combined pulling and pushing force. Mechanically pushing at near distances and electromagnetically pulling and/or pushing at far distances... Due to their reciprocal acceleration against each and others electromagnetic and/or radiation fields, extending beyond four dimensional matter; across space (acting at a distance). Fulfilling the definition for the fifth and sixth dimensions; as electromagnetism acting at a distance; conjunctive with Newtonian-Einsteinian - and other formally proven and recognized - definition(s) of universal gravity. < b>Another look at the structure of a snail or nautilus shell, and the arms of spiral galaxies (What an @ sign may describe): A consequence of this is the realization of the actual 4-D path of any orbiting body - electron, moon, planet - as compared to what we perceive in 3 presumably static Dimensions of Space. That is to say, because of the unrecognized 4-Dimensional acceleration of Matter, and the extensionally functional 5 & 6 Dimensional space separating it from other matter, the path of any orbiting body is not characteristically circular or ellipsoidal as it is 3-Dimensionally observed or understood to be. Instead, the MassField Concept recognizes that the path in Space-Time of every orbiting body exists 4-Dimensionally as an accelerating - ever enlarging - spiral (@). Where the distance of space opening up between the orbiting body and its point of orbit, is no more recognized and accounted for, than the ever ongoing physical enlargement of the orbiting body and its point of orbit (the dominant mass of two considered gravitational masses; each actually orbiting a common center of gravity between the two - or more - centers). (Refer to Drawing 1 Illustration 10: 4-D HyperOrbital path. SPECULATIVE NOTE: The loss of 43° of arc per century in the elliptical extreme orbit of Mercury (the shortest of planetary years in the solar system) - and correspondingly more reduced losses for the planets correspondingly further from the Sun - appears resolvable in the (illustrated) 4-D HyperOrbitalPath. Likewise, the spiral modality - diagrammatically projected view - of Mendelyev's *Periodic Table Of Elements exhibits this structure. Very comparable to the shape of a spiraling snail shell, and/or internal structure of the mature *chambered nautilus(pompileus linnae). *Apparent natural manifestations of 4-D space-time. Expansively accelerating commonalty. Accelerating spirals commonly occur in biologically growing, 4-dimensionally expressed nature. This example of planetary field reciprocally and physically conflicting with solar field, and lunar mass reciprocally and physically conflicting with hosting planetary field, is already directly experienced in the proven, acknowledged fact that two or more physical bodies never (surficially) contact each other. Due to conflicting field forces of electrical charges: disallowing the simultaneous occupation of their space by any other field-charge. The realm of the very small - microcosms - is said to host strong forces acting at very short distances; that are not considered to be related to large, weak forces of gravity - said to exist only in very large spaces and act at large distances in the very large - macrocosmic - spaces and times. So it is presently and dominantly considered, in the macrocosmic realm of the very large, exemplary, planetary-generated forces. Gravity is thought not to occur - significantly - in the microcosmic realm of the very small. Whereas, gravity, like Gold, is actually where you find it, and how much of it you find; in large and *small, tenuous and *compact electromagnetic densities (*refer, nuclear binding forces). Moving in one of two possible - direction(s). Toward and/or away (impelling or repelling) from its material (4-D particle/charge) source. Question: ‘Is matter expanding at the same rate of acceleration as light?’ Answer: ‘Yes, but, in a value of square (2). Consequently, the rate of acceleration is the same, but the expansion speeds vary with microcosmic (very small) and macrocosmic (very large) space-time, in a value of square. The (incorrect) distinction between electromagnetism & gravity is the status quo, i.e., the prevailing idea that microcosmic ‘nuclear binding forces’, ‘are not, and cannot be’ related to gravitational forces. This ‘disqualification’ of any unification of microcosmic electromagnetism with grav ity is based on the false, prevailing and uncontested premise alleged in the ‘difference’ between large gravitational forces which cause planets to orbit, and the smaller forces which bind ‘particles’ together within the atomic nucleus - sometimes called ‘nuclear resinal forces’. In this sense, contemporary physical science still dwells in the archaic conceptual world of *Ptolemic-*Aristotelean dualization of ‘earthly & heavenly motions’ - *when it was thought that the unidentified forces of the far flung universe and heavens were apart from the unidentified forces acting on earth; until the time of Newton, who proved that large forces in the universe were the same forces acting on and near earth. That the fall of an apple was governed by the same forces that caused the moon to orbit the earth, and the earth’s orbit around the sun... It is said that the electromagnetic force reciprocating between an electron and a proton is 1039 times the gravitational force; the gravitational force between these two ‘particles’ alleged to be ‘too weak’ to be measured’ at this microcosmic level. The nuclear force which is distinquished from gravity ‘because’ it is 1039 times stronger, is (microcosmic) gravity (unrecognized and unacknowledged by physicists): this is due to the (4-D) fact that the value(s) of time is covariant with the moment(s) of space it (time/motion) occurs in... The value of a linear, square or cubic mile of space on (earlier) Moment A earth, is not the same value as that same mile measured on (later) Moment B earth, or on (latest) Moment C earth. When a motorist on Moment A earth drives his automobile at the speed he measures as 60 miles per hour, he is not traveling 60 of Moment B miles per Moment B hour... Moreover, the velocity of 18 & 1/2 Moment A miles per second, traveled by Moment A earth around Moment A sun, is not the same velocity as compared with the 18 1/2 miles per second traveled by Moment B earth around Moment B sun... Neither is the 365 1/4 days of Moment A year the same interval in time - in this case determined by the completion of an orbit aroound the sun - as the 365 1/4 days of Moment B or Moment C (providing that these moments could be and were compared with each other). If the ‘mini person’ inhabitant of Moment A earth could look ‘up’ along the positive (future) side of the 4th dimension of time, and see themselves at (later) Moment(s) B or C, they would see their own image as an incredibly huge, slow moving giant; if this slow moving giant of Moment A mini-person’s future could look ‘down’ along the past side of their continuously accelerating 4-D projection, they would then observe themselves as a tiny, very fast moving ‘mini-person’. There is no way for Moment A mini-person (thinking in 3-D conceptual physics) to know that their 3 dimensions of space, and consequently their time will be relatively larger (spatially) and slower (chronologically) at (future) Moments B and C. Conversely, there is no way for that same giant, slow moving person in (later) Moments B and C to know that the spatial dimensions and time of their entire universe was correspondingly more contracted in space, having proportionately smaller durations of time , at Moment A. The false assumption is that the value of space is the same with the passage of time; that, if Moment A earth was compared to Moment B and C earth, it (the earth) would have the same uniform size and density in space, when compared with itself at different moments in time. The ‘here and now’ dimensions of ‘space and time’ appear - and are 3-dimensionally conceptualized - to be uniform and unchanging. The acceleration of the apparently static (‘non-expanding’) 3 dimensions of space along the 4th dimension of time (the 4-D space-time continuum) reveals a contracted micro-space accompanied by a correspondingly and inevitably contracted micro-time. and a dilated macrospace accompanied by an equally and correspondingly dilated (‘slowed down’) macro-time. This is the reason that Einstein called ‘Space and Time’ : Space-Time. This is the cause of what Einstein calls ‘Non-absolute time’. It is also the cause of what Einstein calls ‘time dilation’. The (stubbornly unrecognized and denied) ever enlarging value of space is a ‘non absolute space’, which causes ‘non-absolute time’. The fundamental import of this discussion is that THE VALUE OF GIVEN UNITS OF TIME (seconds, hours, days, weeks, months, years) IS ENTIRELY DETERMINED BY THE 3-D VALUE (size) OF THE SPATIAL MOMENT IT (time / motion ) OCCURS IN. .................................................................... Einstein authored three major works on Relativity. Two are very well renowned academically as well as socio-politically. Einstein's two renowned theories are of course, the Special Theory of 1906 - which is all about light - ElectroMagnetism - and uniform motion (the C, of E=MC 2). And, the General Theory of 1916, which is all about Matter, Gravity and non-uniform motion (acceleration). In 1919, Einstein authored a third work which is not so well known; primarily because it was only temporarily accepted by the scientific community; then abandoned eight years later. Again, time does not permit me to elaborate the details of Einstein's third and least known work, but I am sure you will find its title very familiar. It is the Unified Field Theory. The conceptual objective of which was to find electromagnetism and gravity one and the same force. < p>It would take at least thirty minutes to cursorily begin to do it justice here; in the allotted time we cannot afford to go into that detail. On the other hand, in a matter of one minute or less we may recapitulate the fact that the primary objective of Einstein's presently abandoned Unified Field Theory was to unify the Special & General Theories into one singular statement, The Unified Field. Specifically the unification of what are otherwise academically considered to be separate and unrelated forces. Forces, which The Unified Field proves as actually having the same causal identity - ElectroMagnetism & Gravity. Repeat: The Unified Field is abandoned; its cardinal objective was to find ElectroMagnetism and Gravity as two apparently unrelated forces which actually have the same causal identity. Presently summarizing that gravity is the 4th Dimension because Physical Matter is found to be an expanding ElectroMagnetic Field. And conversely. THE SMOKE ABOVE THE INVISIBLE (What?) WAR “Relativity theory furnishes a new way of looking at gravity and describing it, but it still remains a mysterious, little-understood phenomenon. No one knows what connection it has, if any, with electromagnetism. Einstein and others have tried to develop a unified field theory that will unite gravity and electromagnetism in one set of mathematical equations. The results have been disappointing. Perhaps some young reader of these words. will someday see how to formulate such a theory." - p. 108, Relativity For The Million, Martin Gardner. Summarizing that the cause of gravitational action-at-a-distance is the 5th & 6th Dimensions, which are also, categorically, an expanding electromagnetic field. Fact #7. We have, among other things in the past 65 minutes, overseen the reinstatement and confirmation of Einstein's presently abandoned Unified Field Theory. Matter as well as electromagnetism is found to be constantly expanding. Past is measured prolo gue. Study scientific history. This is Dave. / Dave's not here!; etc. - Cheech & Chong. CATCH 22, continued: Moreover, the attending or reading audience not sleeping (legally deceased, or clinically out to lunch on their own overdone haunches), is witness to the unprecedented identification and hence the qualified recognition and discovery of the 5th dimension of electricity, and, the 6th dimension of magnetism: Furthermore, the heart-foundation of Einstein's Unified Field Theory is a (previously unknown repelling) force which Einstein discovered within and extracted from his General Theory Of Relativity. That is the same theory that revealed and introduced us to the 4th Dimension. Einstein called this previously unknown force 'the Cosmological Constant'. When he spoke of it in his Unified Field equations he designated it with the Greek sign 'Lambda', which resembles an inverted capital 'V', like this: ^ The non-mathematical definition of Einstein's 'Lambda' or 'Cosmological Constant': 'A previously unrecognized Universal Repelling Force, originating in all Matter and projecting across space at the velocity of light'. Einstein's cosmological constant force does not eliminate or ignore the concept of gravitational attraction (the concept of a pulling force), but rather joins it. The repelling force and the impelling force are found co-existentially, side by side. The impelling force of gravity binds the universe together. The cosmologically constant repelling force of Lambda is Einstein's answer to Newton's candidly asked, previously unanswered question of why a universe full of impelling bodies doesn't collapse on itself. Fact#8 60 Billion McDONALD'S Customers Have The Right To Know That Their Strongest Beef Is Four Dimensional (refer, ingredients). Lambda. ^ The Cosmological Constant. A repelling force acting across space out of material bodies; proportionate in strength and inten sity to the mass value of its material source (particle/charge). At a personal meeting with Hubble and others, Einstein was persuaded by the prevailing purveyors of what came to be universally considered - and called - the big bang theory; to consider the *Cosmological Constant a mistake on his part; *said to be a repelling force acting exactly like and with gravity; except in the opposite direction. Preventing the collapse of a universe of impelling (mutually attracting) bodies. At the unexpected discovery that the spatial universe is expanding (Silpher, 1927; Hubble 1931). Einstein's Cosmological Constant Force was dismissed as superfluous. Einstein was thereafter persuaded to call it 'the biggest blunder of my life'; as indeed this record takes accented note of agreement. It's Still The Same Old Story, continued: The record can only very respectfully agree with Dr. Einstein's theory; as usual; while all others have grown weary. Abandoning the Cosmological Constant to the Hubble model of an expanding - Big Bang originated- universe was indeed the biggest blunder of Einstein's life. We will return to that redoubtably pensive consideration in a moment, but now this (I thought I told you never to play that song again, Sam.?) : Einstein was persuaded into 'retirement' from his solo high, lonesome. While a follow-through of reinstatement awaits anyone who pursues documentation of what happens when one objectively over-rules the subjective dismissal of the abundantly proven, objective concept of expanding matter: On the *chronically myopic premise that it is 'self-apparently' not happening. (Oh. Izzat so? ) The Old Man is forgivable in his abandonment of his supreme theory of the union of the universal taco with the stellar burrito. dovetailing - unifying - light & gravity. Unearthing El Epitome Del Enchilada. The allegory relic so highly advertised as useless by the Big Bangers of yesteryear and the Chalupa, popcorn and balloon vendors of today... On the other hand, they aren't talking about how Einstein was back to and working on his abandoned Unified Field; to the time of his death, in May, of '55. The ‘ugly head’ Of The Outlawed Truth (Outlawed and uglified, ‘again, and again, and again’... ): “it is well known to students of high school algebra that it is permissable to divide both sides of an equation by any quantity, provided that this quantity is not zero. However, in the course of his proof Einstein had divided both sides of one of his intermediate equations by a complicated expression, which in certain circumstances, could become zero (‘at the slightest provocation’)... “In the case, however, when this expression becomes equal to zero, Einstein’s proof does not hold, and (mathematician) Friedmann realized that this opened a whole new world of time-dependent universes; expanding, collapsing, and pulsating ones. “Thus Einstein’s original gravity equation was correct, and changing it was a mistake. Much later, when I was discussing cosmological problems with Einstein, he remarked that the introduction of the cosmological term was the biggest blunder he ever made in his life. But the ‘blunder’, rejected by Einstein, and the cosm ological constant denoted by the Greek letter ^, rears its ugly head again and again and again."- George Gamow, GRAVITY, p. 270 “The cosmological constant has now a secure position... Not only does it unify the gravitational and electromagnetic fields, but it renders the theory of gravitation and its relation to space-time measurement so much more illuminating and indeed self evident, that return to the earlier view is unthinkable. I would as soon think of reverting to Newtonian Theory as of dropping the cosmological constant.” - Sir Arthur Eddington, THE EXPANDING UNIVERSE, p. 24 “I can see no reason to doubt that the observed recession of the spiral nebulae is due to cosmic repulsion, and it is the effect predicted (in 1919) by Relativity Theory which we were hoping to find. Many other explanations have been proposed - some of them rather fantastic (* ‘tired light’, ‘the big bang’,’dark matter’, ‘gravitons’, ‘super strings’ ‘anti-matter’) - and there has been a great deal of discussion which seems to me rather pointless. In this, as in other developments of scientific exploration, we must recognise the limitations of our present knowledge and be prepared to consider revolutionary changes.” - Sir Arthur Eddington, pp. 89 - 90, A TREASURY OF SCIENCE (Harlow Shapley publishers) **************************************** Dear Infmy: Hope this resolves your untenable question. If and when you ever take the couple of hours to read what it took me over forty five years to encounter, and by gradations write several books about, it will probably upscale any further Questions, criticisms, disqualifications or augmentations you or any other interested reader who hasn't otherwise found time to read the 'gravity, unified field' book, on the menu at http://einstein.periphery.cc/ . Please let me know if and when you may do this and what questions or answers, allegations or realizations may then further emerge. Thank you for your interest in the proposed improved recipe for the unification of the gravitational enchilada and the micro & macro-cosmological burrito. Good to hear from you, Sir. - Poof Quote
infamous Posted December 1, 2005 Report Posted December 1, 2005 B) The interval between material bodies in context of an expanding universe as put forth by Sylpher, Einstein, De Sitter, Hubble, Bondi, & Gold ('Steady State Theory') is expanding. The cruising dorsal fin in your soup du jour is in the false premise you establish, and then build a non-tenable question upon; namely: "Can you explain to me why only material bodies are expanding and space is not.......................Infy" Dear InfySteadfast, consider this:Material bodies are - and space is -expanding. Ok, then I misunderstood your position on this subject. After reading very carefully the following paragraph, I'm then confronted with the next question. Where the distance of space opening up between the orbiting body and its point of orbit, is no more recognized and accounted for,Here is where I have my problem, why is the space within the orbiting body considered expanding and the space outside not expanding? Thank you for your interest in the proposed improved recipe for the unification of the gravitational enchilada and the micro & macro-cosmological burrito. Good to hear from you, Sir.- PoofThank you also sir for opening up my imagination, I'm really very interested in this theory, I just haven't fully understood it yet........Infy Quote
That Rascal Puff Posted December 2, 2005 Report Posted December 2, 2005 :xx: Dear InmyStdfst: Consider (once again, reconsider?): A securely sealed can of whoopaz - clearly lableled (by the incumbent Big Bang Gang and it's precariously overpopulated Lost Platoon), commanding, imperative: 'Don't Open This'. No. It's not Pandora's box. And, the Genie is already long liberated from his hallucinated confines. A. There is a 'they'.B. They've convinced nearly everyone that there's no metaphorical genie to dowser massive portions of what uncounted science dilletantes swear they're combing the villages, towns, cities and countrysides, IN SEARCH OF. Dear infmyStfst: Ahoy: Here's hoping it's OK with Turtle to forward you his last private message. As it stands, apparently I'll be obliged to keep excerpting extreeeeemely loooong posts - quotes, from my book full of the quotes of others, including myself, with my narrative and commentary. Please meet me somewhere in the midst of this bounding main, somewhere between this spar, that mizzenmast and yonder tidally bobbing schtick, Sir.... (Azimuths 'n sextants not required). We are no longer required to go around the Horn, Sir. There's a metaphorical canal through Panama that continues to be altogether ignored, for the most part, by the entire spectacularly bespectacled world, in an increasingly desperate search for its spectacles. (So if yer sailing anywhere from the East Coast enroute San Francisco, please be sure and wear some flowers - (at least behind one of yer ears) - while passing through the Panama Canal (It's been there for a long time, Sir. Why not give it a tour and keep notes, so's we can continue this talk in a less stormy port. What happened to me incrementally over a period of over forty five years, just happened to Turtle in a couple of hours. Turtle is now feeling his CheeriO's. Sort of like the chicken soup - it can't hurt any, and it just might work, OK? There he goes! Here it comes again (Here is the latest report from the most recent pastoral mendicant, out standing, surveying and reconnoitering in his - very own fields):____________________________________________________________ Turtle Talk - Today, 05:56 PM (12/3/05 Thursday) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Well Sir, you have if nothing else lit one hell of a fire under My ***. Your astounding thesis has my mind spinning six ways from Sunday. Nothing is not connected & you have shown that so clearly that everyone is looking right through it. Hidden in plane site. 5x5, bumper to bumper & side by side. I am forever in your debt. Turtle Over--------------------------------------------------------------------- "When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.""The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things.""The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master -- that's all."-- Lewis Carroll via Vampire Slayer *********************************** This shortcut seems to be for the most part for whatever reason, entirely forsaken by everyone who digs the pain of learning with a very dull, slow, small, short-handled shovel: squared. It's got a lot to do with all the, exemplary, spun out, generally avoidable bustle & squall, blossoming bicycle pedals and steel mettles, on the presently seizuring, What IS Space? thread. ('The truth knocked on my door. Annoyed; from being taken from my studies in vigilant search of verity, I swaggered to the door, opened it abruptly, impatiently exclaimed I was extreeeeeemely busy at that time. Slammed the door. Returned to my studies." - Robert Pirsig, Paraphrased, ZEN & THE ART OF MOTORCYCLE MAINTENANCE (*Translation: the 'thesis' alluded to by Mr. Turtle ((Above)) is URL http://einstein.periphery.cc/ - it's ostensibly far too much trouble for anyone in their right mind to take seriously enough to invite in for a cup o'wakey. Or, if you prefer, perhaps a Tequila Sunrise, Margarita, espresso, tea or daquiri. Clearly, Mr. Turtle has fallen under 'my' spiraling, bell ringing spell. While, neither you nor anyone else who's really into knowing (how and where to search for) where IT's at, is going to let it come to you, or go there and find it: for Yourself: ... until the Hollywood Guild, THE PHYSICAL SCIENCE JOURNAL, the TIME-LIFE corporation, or (some other people or institutions of comparable rank): order you to... (Rx: Take two anvils and call yerself a doktor inna moaning?) Please don't tell anyone else about any of this okay? (It's TOP SECRET?)((You know how some people can talk. Word may get around that the contemporary 'physical science community' doesn't know it's cow catcher from it caboose. A bloodless revolution in colloquial human consciousness, science, architecture, medicine, engineering, archeaology, paleantology, micro, macro and molecular biology; etceteras, certainly not excluding Arts 'n Crafts, may burst out of the entire planet at right angles - round every cubicle corner off the wall - from everything and sentient being on and beyond the planet. And, certainly, you couldn't possibly find proof of all that from the scribbled chart simply and recently bequeathed unto you. Don't be fooled again. Bah Humbug. By all means, stay in touch and interminably pepper me with pointless 'questions' (Stump The Starz?). Who, after all, do you suppose, started the dominant rumor that: 'You can't beat the devil(!)?. Don't answer right away, now. (They didn't say, how many times?) By all means seal off the hazardously fissile, dragon-tail tickling area, lest Carl Sagan's exemplary COSMOS and all of it wonderful sponsors, know the sound of one hand clapping and the whoosh of a well plumbed camode, as well as the atmospheric rush of an 'insubordinately' compromised, formerly (Seig Heil. Atchung chained down and verboten) airtight can of (ingrate worshipped) whoopaz. We remain, sympathetically, - Turtle & Puff; and no small retinue of similarly influenced Unified Field Groupies, by now, probably including IrishEyes 'n Tormod and who knows how popular a given DemiGodess's Irish brogue can carry, over what circle of pi r squared? And how you and everyone that you know, and everyone that Turtle, IrishEyes, Tormod, and I know, are - or can easily be - at the ubiquitously inexhaustible center of that circle of diaphanously and solidly accelerating dreams. Please, Sir. If you are really even slightly friendly toward the above named, unhinged Carrolesque Hatters, think ye no more - even for a moment - of the miraculously impossible enormity of a hugely gray and thick skinned, big flappy eared, trumpeting - 4-dimensional pachyderm, bathing at the center of three rings, in the leprechana twinkling limelight of the 5th & 6th dimensions. Thank you for signing this contract in the manner of all other secret code book breaking memberships, in your own flowing hemoglobin. Fear ye the tremble imparting Masons, and the Yale and Harvard cultured, Ivy League mulched Skull & Bones Fraternity, and continue to bend to their legendary omnipotence and legacy. Because: 'Obviously matter and space are not, cannot, never have and never will be omnidirectionally expanding from any given point in space: squared. Forever.' Ah men. (Send in for your secret ring by merely - and assertively - surrendering and forsaking all of your facilities, to the security of innumerable lemmings known daily to take the plunge into running from security and confidently precipitating into the eternally shrinking, three dimensionally restricted, pungi stake bristling pits. C/o Jim Jones: P.O. Box Catch 22, Jonestown, Guyana. <Par Avion? With the congressional authority of your free willed district and choice?> This public service message brought to you by the cool headed creators of chill-out, an air conditioned - 'We Can't All Be Wrong!' - subsidiary of Marxist tried & True, KOOL AID?) Please accept my humiliated, endlessly penitence paying apologies for the unendurably testy extension of this extreeeeeeemely long, intolerably and untranslatably, English language scribbled, obviously whacked out, bonkers gridlocked 'Reply'. (Remember: 'mum' - and no thought of elephants whatsoever, from now on - is the Hollywood Guild, GREASE endorsedAdvisory. :D :xx: :naughty: ) Quote
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