genius_band_geek. Posted December 8, 2005 Report Posted December 8, 2005 greetings my fellow humans.. My name is Margaret D. Ward. im a young genius also. i am trying to hear more of differant theorys about black holes. please reply with information that your "believe" is valid. thank you, please reply.:confused: Quote
Tormod Posted December 8, 2005 Report Posted December 8, 2005 If you want to start a discussion, I recommend posting a few ideas of your own. Tell us what you're looking for and what you think of the subject. It is the best way to avoid being seen as someone whos imply wants us to do their homework. We have discussed black holes numerous times here - try our search function. Quote
Southtown Posted December 8, 2005 Report Posted December 8, 2005 greetings my fellow humans.. My name is Margaret D. Ward. im a young genius also. i am trying to hear more of differant theorys about black holes. please reply with information that your "believe" is valid. thank you, please reply.:confused:I believe the current theory regarding black holes is that they exist. Quote
Bo Posted December 8, 2005 Report Posted December 8, 2005 http://www.slac.stanford.edu/spires/find/hep/www?rawcmd=FIND+T+BLACK+HOLE+Or+T+BLACK+HOLES only approx. 8000 scientiffic papers in the past years :confused: you need to be a little bit more specific: what do you want to know? Bo Quote
arkain101 Posted December 8, 2005 Report Posted December 8, 2005 Okay so you are looking for ideas on black holes and you dont have very much time. Well I have an Idea but it is purely an idea and has not strong scientific backup. But you seem pretty desperate for some reason. Well If gravity is where matter is and gravity is considered that it is mass and the total mass of a large object is not what determines the force of which it applies to an object in its vicinity but rather the density of the mass which creates the effect of gravity and if density is considered the displacement of the medium of which electromagnetic energy travels through -space- then as matter collapses it acts in a way of a sponge that squishes space out of it. The greater the density, density which I consider the percentage of space to matter ratio in a given volume, the greater the force of gravity becomes. So as an object such as a dieing sun begins to collapse the space is displaced at a higher and higher percentage as the density increases, and in return, begins to increase the effect of gravity more and more. Molecular structure is overpowered and matter beggins to become very close. It may come so incribly close that all space is squished from this object and all matter has unified. Once unified it is no longer the matter we know and understand. Uncapable of creating electromagnetic energy, or even kinetic heat. It may become a giant or respectivly, small billiard ball like object that is pure gravity or rather though of as, pure density. Pure density which creates the singularity effect of simlar considerations. So it either becomes a pure displacement of space field fabric or a pure collection of space fabric. The unified matter feeds on energy-matter. This pure density may be the maximum of gravities force and proportional to its volume. How it creates new matter for new stars and planets... I dont know but my wild idea considers that pure density requires a pure opposite, a dichomity system? is that the right word? The same force in as the same force out. Spitting out energy/fundemental matter for the beggining of new matter through the points of least resistance created from a high velocity rotation at the equal force and velocity capability that pulls inwards. Its just a wild idea and not a theory but somewhat logical though process of mine. It is a bit a off the top of my head explanation to a bunch of ideas. Theres an idea... Natural 1 Quote
goku Posted December 8, 2005 Report Posted December 8, 2005 the logical theory:somebody seen something, or nothing, through a telescope then useing their elaborate imagination told someone else about it. the best way to study something is to touch it GAHD and niviene 2 Quote
Science_Goooood__Math_Bad Posted December 17, 2005 Report Posted December 17, 2005 Do white holes and worm holes count? what about the reverse theory of the theory of relitivity? Quote
TIDUSGIYA Posted December 22, 2005 Report Posted December 22, 2005 THE DEFIFINITION OF A BLACK HOLE vs. PARALLEL UNIVERSES OR WORM HOLES If Back Holes exist and the findings tell us how they work, then how can a Parallel universe or another part of space be reached through one of them. Example…..Parallel universes or Worm Holes should also exist in with Black Holes or Worm Holes. My look at a Black hole If this is how we exit one then a Parallel UniversesBlack Hole should have the same findings. This would alsoAlso suggest that light also reaches a Parallel Universe fromOur Black Hole Why can’t we find any trace of light or energy appearing out ofNowhere in our universe. If that’s how a Black Hole works thenIt would also works the same way in another part of space or anotherUniverse, unless the exit of a Black Hole is at the centre of a Star. This would also be the same theory for a Worm Hole in Space. If this is true for a Star that ends up becoming a Black Hole Or Worm hole then a in order to Travel through eitherWould have to be at the exact moment the Star in a Parallel Universe explodes. This situation would allow travel at a split second before the Parallel Star Implodes to become its own Black Hole. This situation would form a Reflection of our Black Hole, thus creating a Zero point for both Black holes (see figure 1a), where light cannot pass through or escape and we cannot travel through a Black Hole to reach the designation assumed. It’s ethical to suggest that a different dimension of space would have a Black Hole or Worm Hole to travel, so if Black Holes and Worm Holes do exist in Space or a Parallel Universe then how come we can’t see the exit of any in our universe. If they didn’t exist in another universe of dimension of space then Smash is the only boundary of a Black Hole. If they do exist, then here’s my look at situation for the Big Bang, if it happened. MY LOOK AT THE BIG BANG CONCEPT At the centre of any Universe Before the Universe Figure 1a shows the Zero Point ofOur Black Hole And the newBlack Hole of its Reflective Self inA Parallel Dimension or a Position inSpace-time. End of notes for figure 1a. My look Before the Universe and After if the Big Bang happened. Please note that figure 1 and 1a are not connected with my theory of The Big Bang until the 2nd concept. 1st concept There is a Black Hole, at the centre of every Born Universe formed by a Dead Star. This Dead star once upon a time had a connection to the Black Hole of a Parallel Universe right in its Centre Core. The Parallel Universe Has Reached its Maximum Expanse Rate due to the unstable Quantum Energy caused by the low Magnetic push between Galaxies and the Universes Central Core. Due to the Unstable energy the Parallel Universe has Started to collapse in on itself causing it to eat up its remaining energy with its own Black Hole at its Central Core. Forcing all its light and energy along with Anti matter and matter into our Central Universes Un-dead Star. The pressure builds up on our Universes Central Core and after reaching and sustaining its maximum pressure it then starts to react violently as the pressure builds up ever more, causing itself to Explode. 2nd concept If this is True for the Big Bang then our Central Universe Does Already Have a Black Hole, Connected to the Reflective Universe. Because the Reflective Universe has eaten up its own Atmosphere, our Black Hole and its Black Hole has started to merge, Creating the Zero Point effect (figure 1a). The Parallel Universes Central Core is Still eating up its light and energy (anti-matter and matter), and Our Central Cores Black Hole is also pushing energy to its Smash zone they start to store all the energy in the Zero Point Zone (Central Point of both Universes Reflective Black Holes). When our Universe starts to eat itself up with its Central Cores Black Hole, the Black Hole of the Parallel Universe has nearly completely Shrunk to Create the New Central Core for itself. Remember that it’s Central Core Would Start to appear as its Black hole Shrinks. The Parallel universes Black Hole would Shrink Because its Eaten up its Atmosphere and it has no more energy around it in order to sustain itself. The Star after a long wait would mostly be smaller in mass than the one before it due to the energy it put into our Universes Central core, But only if Atoms and Anti-Matter lose energy during the life span of its Once existed Universe. Over this long wait, our Central Universes Black Hole is Feeding its light and energy (Anti-matter and matter) into the Parallel Universes new Stars Central Core, See figure 2aAnother Situation……. It Could also be that the Black Hole of the Parallel Universe has its Exit Point in a different Star of Either our universe or Another Universe and not Directly at the Central of a Universe, this would also be a Situation coinciding to our own Universes Stars and Black Holes. If a Black Hole Didn’t Have its Exit in a Star then we Should be able to see an Exit Point of any other Black Hole in our universe. If there is no exit Point then it would take a higher travelling speed than its pressure speed to brake through any Black holes Smash Zone, before the Pressure of it Smashes anything at its Zero Point Zone. If a Black Hole did have its exit within a Star in any Space zone then this would most likely be the way travelling could take place, as long as the Star its Connected to is about to Explode at the Split Second we travel to it. This situation would also most defiantly connect all Space Dimensions to Each other. If They Really Do Exist. THE BIG BANG THEORY AND ANY CREATION OF THE UNIVERSE THEORY HERE’S YOUR REALITY CHECK To put a blunder at any assumptions that the universe or anything created itself from nothing…….. Questions 1 to Q1: What Created the Energy That Created The Big Bang or Universe? Q2: If the Universe Created Itself This time Round Then has it Created itself many times Before? Q3: Where Did the Energy Come From? Q4: If there’s some way it came from a Parallel Universe then where did the Parallel Universes Energy come From,and so-on? Q5: After all, energy Doesn’t appear out of nowhere Does it? Q6: Atoms maybe, but they Also have to come from somewhere Don’t They? Q7: Anti-Matter has to come from somewhere and so-on, all forms of energy came from somewhere didn’t it? Q8: Where did the Energy of the somewhere come from and where did that come from and so-on? If you can find a Rational answer to all those questions Whether Scientific or not, The Universe did not Create itsOwn Energy. HERE’S THE ANSWERS TO ALL THE QUESTIONS WITHOUT SCIENCE OR NOT. There is no Beginning without an End, Because There is no Ending without a beginning.THIS IS HOW ENERGY BALANCES ITSELF OUT. THE SAME CONCEPT IS EQUAL TO THIS WHEN GOOD vs. BAD AND SO-ON. PLEASE READ THE FINAL PAGE SO THAT YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHY GOOD vs. BAD AND SO-ON. This Is Why Good Will Always Win. If Good Wins Over bad then Life can Still Beget Good, beget is a word for giving Strength to a situation in order to allow the Situation to continue down the Same Path. So Good Begets Good and Good Remains Strong to remain Good Forever, because Forever never fades away when Good Wins. This Is Why Bad Will Always Lose. If Bad wins Over Good then Life can Only Beget Bad, beget is also the same word giving strength to a situation in order for the situation to never change from its Path. So Bad Begets Bad and Bad would have to remain strong to remain Bad Forever, until forever Fades away because Bad would have to continue to be Bad in order to keep any Good Things out. Thus Bad will beget Itself to an extent that it will Destroy Itself for continuing to create Bad things to Stop anything from showing any sign of Goodness. Bad also Try’s to Take Leadership of things that are Bad thus Bad things also try to gain leadership over the leadership this Bad Will Always Lose because it Destroys bad things to remain its leadership and so-on. e.g. When People are Bad to Good People and if Bad wins, then bad will have to continue to be Bad to Keep itself from becoming Good. If it Shows any sign of Good Then It would Lose, Its would Destroy Its own Bad to Stop itself from being good, thus Bad Destroys Itself. That’s why Bad will Never Win, so Pick a Side so you remain Good. Good wins Because Good Knows whats Bad From Good and Bad Gets Thrown From the Good Side if it Bad. Allowing Good to remain, Because Bad Destroys itself for trying to be Good in order to Win with Good Things. If bad Try’s to win By Sneaking To Be Good, then Bad Also Destroys Itself for Pretending to be good, because it would have to do Good In order to win with Good. Thus Bad will Never Win Over Good and Good Will Always Win. Good Will Always Overcome All Bad Things. Signed Richard Michael Streeter Thank you for reading and God BlesS Please Email me if you would like the word file of all this information i just sent you. my email is [email protected] thank you Quote
TIDUSGIYA Posted December 22, 2005 Report Posted December 22, 2005 white holes are a myth. the anti matter that resides in any gavitational sphere can ony pull energy towards its centre and not push it....when a planet has low gravity, this also means its core is less active. the anti matter that spins in its central core is also low. anti matter obsobes light and energy. this is why radiation also exists. anti matter is a negative energy thus i contains the energy it obsorbs. the earth on the other hand has a higher gravity pull because the core is more active. the central core also has more active anti matter in its centre. let me give you the best hint.....energy has to recycle itself inorder to continue its effictiveness. this allso means that any atom also has to recycle its core energy too. a proton's energy also comes from inti matter. once its central core has ran out, it's own gravitational pull forces it to implode, due to eating up its empty energy cells. once its eaten up its empty energy cells the protons core react's violently to its zero point atmaphere thus causing it to explode relessing its new charged anti matter.....you will find that thinking ideas is best when you imagene and see them as you think them.....rationality of this theory can help you to resolve any theory you have. so is it rational for a proton to some how achieve recharging itas own energy cells, if not then atoms eventually will dissapere after 1 millionth of a second. this suggets that atoms energy cells recharge. this is my rational answer based upon the atom having a zero point for is energy. does this work, ???????????????? Quote
sergey500 Posted January 13, 2006 Report Posted January 13, 2006 Bo is right, what exactly do you want to know? They rip space time, not even light can escape their gravity. Thats jist of it. Oh and its not wise to call you're self a genius. A true genius would never admitt he or she is genius, instead confirm that he or she has a lot to learn and does not know everything. Quote
InfiniteNow Posted January 13, 2006 Report Posted January 13, 2006 white holes are a myth.Ah... reminds me of the good ole' days when everything we didn't yet understand or didn't have a better theory to explain was a myth. Like germs. It sure was a bunch of hogwash to actually think that surgeons had to wash and sterilize their instruments between patients to help avoid infectious deaths. "You're talking witch-craft! Wash the instruments... well, I never! Give me break. I'm the doctor here. I think I know what's best for my patients."TIDUSGIYA, it's just another theory... calling it a myth seems excessive. A true genius would never admitt he or she is genius, instead confirm that he or she has a lot to learn and does not know everything.Nice point, sergey. In some sense, everybody is a genius somehow on some subject somewhere. You just have to figure out what that is. Some people are a genius with math or physics, others with art and color, while still others with pain and suffering, or even belching... Or think about kids, many of them are a genius with picking boogers and making inappropriate comments to strangers while out in public. :lol: It's just a theory, but it's one that I've long held. Oh yeah, black holes... sorry. Got a bit off topic there. :P Quote
sergey500 Posted January 13, 2006 Report Posted January 13, 2006 Thanks, that wasn't my orginal point, but yes your right, InfiniteNow, but that boogers picking expertise....i don't know if that will actuelly be a genius at that. Quote
Akw2000 Posted January 13, 2006 Report Posted January 13, 2006 the logical theory:somebody seen something, or nothing, through a telescope then useing their elaborate imagination told someone else about it. the best way to study something is to touch it Please, go ahead and touch a blackhole.... but don't blame me if you get...eh...squished Quote
InfiniteNow Posted January 13, 2006 Report Posted January 13, 2006 Please, go ahead and touch a blackhole.... but don't blame me if you get...eh...squishedThat's a funny comment Akw2000. "Come on... touch it... touch it! I dare ye! I double-dog dare ye!! ...I'll give ye this nice shiney nickel..." Just to be clear though, they would actually be "stretched," not squished. This is because the differences in the strength of gravity at their feet (or whatever part is closer to the blackhole) and the gravity at their head (or whatever part is further from the blackhole) are so great that the individual would be stretched out like a piece of spaghetti. It's due to tidal forces...same thing that makes waves in the oceans here on Earth. Quote
TIDUSGIYA Posted January 18, 2006 Report Posted January 18, 2006 Okay so you are looking for ideas on black holes and you dont have very much time. PLEASE ALSO REMEMBER THAT A BLACK HOLE THAT SUPOSEDLY CONECTS TO A DIFFERENT DIMENTION WOULD RATIONALY ONLY CONNECT TO ITS MIRROR IMAGE AND THAT BLACK HOLES DONT HAVE AN EXIT PIONT THAT WE CAN SEE, BECAUSE IF BLACK HOLES DID HAVE AN EXIT POINT THEN WE SHOW BE ABLE TO SEE A MASS OF ENERGY BEING SPAT OUT OF NO-WHERE IN SPACE. Quote
TIDUSGIYA Posted January 18, 2006 Report Posted January 18, 2006 Bo is right, what exactly do you want to know? They rip space time, not even light can escape their gravity. Thats jist of it. Oh and its not wise to call you're self a genius. A true genius would never admitt he or she is genius, instead confirm that he or she has a lot to learn and does not know everything. A BLACK HOLE WORKS ON THE SAMES BASIS AS A PLUG HOLE. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A COLOURED LIQUID IS SQIRTED INTO A PLUG HOLE, IT DOESNT MAGICALLY GET PULLED AND EXTRACTED. ITS GETS COMPRESSED, BECAUSE A BLOKE HOLE SPINS AROUND WHETHER CLOCK WISE OR ANTICLOCKWISE. IF ENERGY OF LIGHT GETS RIPPED TO SHREDS AT THE ZERO POINT OF ITS CORE THEN ENERGY AND LIGHT WOULD ONLY FOLLOW THIS PROSSES TO INFINITY. A PLUG HOLE MOVES MATERIALS TO ITS CENTRAL POINT AND THE MATERALS GET STORED WHERE WHERE IT WOULD IN THE WORLD. BUT THE DIFFERNCE BETWEEN A BLACK'S STORAGE WOULD BE IN ITS CENTRE ENERGY POINT OR IF THE ENERGY POINT DOES CONNECT TO ANOTHER DIMENTION OR OBJECT OF SPACE THEN THE MAERIALS WOULD BUILD UP ON THE OBJECT OR DIMENTION.....BUT LIKE I SAID BEFORE, A PARELLEL UNIVERSE CAN ONLY IMITATE A MIRROR IMAGE IF ITSELF, THUS THE CORE OF A BLACH HOLE WOULD MIRROR ANOTHER BLACK HOLE IN IT MIRROR DIMENTIONS. ANOTHER PART OF OUR SPACE CAN NOT POSSABLE SHOW IS THE EXIT POINT OF ANY BLACK HOLE UNLESS A STAR OR CELL IN SPACE EXPLODES, AFTER ALL BLACK HOLE ARE FORMED BY STARS ARE THEY NOT. THIS WOULD SUGGEST THAT AN ALREADY EXISTING BLACK HOLE IS CONNECTED TO ITS SMALLER MIRROR IMAGE INSIDE THAT STAR......WE CANT SEE THE EXIT POINT OF A BLACK HOLE BECAUSE WE CANT SEE ENERGY FROM ONE APEARRING OUT OF NO-WHERE IN SPACE........MAYBE A BLACK HOLE TURNS MATTER INTO ANTI MATTER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT..... LIKE I SAID IN MY STORY,..IN ORDER TO TRAVEL THROUGH A BLACK HOLES CORE, YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO IT A THE SPLIT SECOND OF IS MIRRORED SELF BEING FORMED WHEN A STAR EXPLODES. THIS IS THE RATIONAL ANSWER WETHER ITS ACKNOWLEGED OR NOT. THANK YOU FOR READING Quote
TIDUSGIYA Posted January 18, 2006 Report Posted January 18, 2006 Ah... reminds me of the good ole' days when everything we didn't yet understand or didn't have a better theory to explain was a myth. Like germs. It sure was a bunch of hogwash to actually think that surgeons had to wash and sterilize their instruments between patients to help avoid infectious deaths. "You're talking witch-craft! Wash the instruments... well, I never! Give me break. I'm the doctor here. I think I know what's best for my patients."TIDUSGIYA, it's just another theory... calling it a myth seems excessive. Nice point, sergey. In some sense, everybody is a genius somehow on some subject somewhere. You just have to figure out what that is. Some people are a genius with math or physics, others with art and color, while still others with pain and suffering, or even belching... Or think about kids, many of them are a genius with picking boogers and making inappropriate comments to strangers while out in public. B) It's just a theory, but it's one that I've long held. Oh yeah, black holes... sorry. Got a bit off topic there. :naughty: THEY DONT EXITS WETHER YOU BELIEVE IT OR NOT. BE MORE RATIONAL ABOUT WHY A BLACK HOLE WOULD PUSH ENERGY FROM ITS PULL FORCE. ALL BLACK HOLE WORK ON A PULL FORCE AND A MIRROR IMAGE OF ITSELF WOULD NOT EXTACT LIGHT FROM ITSELF IF IT ABSORDED LIGHT. MAYBE SCIENTISTS BRING UP THEIR THEROIES JUST SO THEY REMAIN IN A JOB OR JUST TO GET MORE FUNDING TO PROVE THE FACT THAT THEY DONT REALLY EXIST. Quote
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