I want to hear peoples theorys about Black Holes. please read.

[Qfwfq]

Quit shouting Tidusgiya, people don't like it, and avoid double posting. Any further posts in all caps will be prone to deletion.

[InfiniteNow]

THEY DONT EXITS WETHER YOU BELIEVE IT OR NOT.

Leaving the physics of a singularity or point of infinite density aside, what is it about which we're engaging in this discourse if it truly does not exist? You must acknowledge and at least concede its most basic existence being a commonly shared concept which is studied by a great many brilliant and curious seekers in a quest for further understanding of our mysterious universe. Only the fool is ever sure he is right. B)

 

As for the CAPS LOCK BEING ON WITH EVERY WORD YOU TYPE INCLUDING YOUR NAME, Qfwfq is right, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are typing on a broken keyboard and not intentionally rudely posting with screams.

 

 

Cheers. :naughty:

[arkain101]

please Also Remember That A Black Hole That Suposedly Conects To A Different Dimention Would Rationaly Only Connect To Its Mirror Image And That Black Holes Dont Have An Exit Piont That We Can See, Because If Black Holes Did Have An Exit Point Then We Show Be Able To See A Mass Of Energy Being Spat Out Of No-where In Space.

 

Anti-matter!? Dark Matter!?! hehe jk

 

but dont black holes spit energy out of the pole areas? kind of like a quasar? those stars that are yet still visible but rotate and spew gamma out of their poles.

 

thats kind of energy being spat out of nowhere in space, since everywhere is typically nowhere.

[sergey500]

Tidusiya, please stop yelling...or fix you're keyboard. Don't be so ignorant. Besudes, how can you say "...BELIEVE IT OR NOT', this is a science (and math) community. Ignoring other opinions in science is one of the most foolish things you can do. Listen to other people, think it through, because even if it seems THAT logical to you that you're right, you never know, someone can prove you wrong...i found that one out the hard way.

 

As for white holes not existing...you're kidding right? Everything that has a beginning has an end, Black holes are of no exception. If something enters it, something must exit it. If a black hole can suck in light (making it black, but that is debatable) so there must be an exit where the light comes out, thus making it bright...A WHITE HOLE. Well thats how i see it, i don't have any solid evidance of it's existance, but it logic thats on my side.

[infamous]

white holes are a myth.

How would you define the Big Bang TID...............or don't you put any stock in the standard model?........................Infy

[bumab]

I'm an ecologist, so somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but...

 

As for white holes not existing...you're kidding right? Everything that has a beginning has an end, Black holes are of no exception. If something enters it, something must exit it. If a black hole can suck in light (making it black, but that is debatable) so there must be an exit where the light comes out...

 

The light does come out, but not as light. Black holes can be thought of as constantly "evaporating." They are always releasing radiation along the edge of an event horizon. Eventually, when stuff stops falling into them, the radiation out will exceed the radiation (and matter) going in, and a black hole will begin to shrink- so what goes in does come out, but not in the manner you were imagining, I think.

 

oh, and that's 1000 posts! wow, i talk a lot.

[sergey500]

Sorry I have to disagree with you there, bumab, what you're talking about is called Hawking radiation. This radiation does not come directly from the black hole itself, but rather is a result of virtual particles being "boosted" by the black hole's gravitation into becoming real particles. Light particles/waves have nothing to do with it. Or so I think.

 

Quatuam Mechanics, my dear watson, elementry really, that why it confuses the heck out of me. Not really, but I remember at one point it did and I spend a week researching this stuff. I could be wrong, but then again thats why we post...so we can learn from our mistakes. Or to show off our immense knowledge. Or some other reason.

[insight]

A true genius would never admitt he or she is genius, instead confirm that he or she has a lot to learn and does not know everything.

 

A genius is a person with distinguished mental prowess. This can manifest either as a foremost intellect, or as an outstanding creative talent. The term also applies to one who is a polymath, or someone skilled in many mental areas. The term specifically applies to mental rather than athletic skills, although it is also colloquially used to denote the possession of a superior talent in any field; e.g., Pelé may be said to have a genius for football or Gandhi for diplomacy.

 

Norman Bethune is a canadian genius. He sacrificed more than a human can do. There are lots of Genius who are selfish too. So my conclusion is whether a person is a genius or not doesn't really matter. A coin has two sides.

[InfiniteNow]

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[InfiniteNow]

Sorry I have to disagree with you there, bumab, what you're talking about is called Hawking radiation. This radiation does not come directly from the black hole itself, but rather is a result of virtual particles being "boosted" by the black hole's gravitation into becoming real particles. Light particles/waves have nothing to do with it. Or so I think.

Hawking radiation it is.

Summarized: Particle and anti-particle pairs continually pop into and out of existence. Everywhere and always. If this "popping into existence" of the pair happens too close to the black hole, one of the members of the pair might get sucked in while the other manages to escape, or it "radiates," away from the hole. The one that escapes, since it is now a part of the universe, defaults to a "real" particle.

 

 

 

edit: You should site your sources too, since the first paragraph of your post came word-for-word from the wikipedia link I attached.

[sergey500]

Nice G.E.N.I.U.S thing.

 

As for my siting...well I wanted to say same exact thing...and it was there...and my hand was on crt and c key and it was tempting...and I got lazy. That should explain it all, I got lazy.

 

But, I could be either very brain dead today, or I just do not see how this disproves white holes...yeah, its offical, today I am brain-dead. Or extremely narrow-minded.

[Harry Costas]

Whats in a Black Hole

 

We know that Black Holes grow from Ultra Dense star bodies.

 

So lets look at Neutron stars and the so called quark star.

 

see links

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/astronomy/new_matter_020410.html

 

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/apod/apod_search?Neutron+stars

 

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/apod/apod_search?Black+Hole

 

 

So!! whats in a Black Hole, not a hole, but compacted subatomic particals that compacted billions of time its own volumn.

 

Possibly neutrons and maybe quarks. Quarks make up neutrons and neutrons being neutral in charge are able to be compacted something of the order 10^18. This is extreme density.

[amkanthal]

Hello!

[InfiniteNow]

Whats in a Black Hole

 

We know that Black Holes grow from Ultra Dense star bodies.

 

So lets look at Neutron stars and the so called quark star.

 

see links

You might see these links too (for some clarifications of points):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_heaviest_stars

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chandrasekhar_limit

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roche_limit

 

 

Enjoy... :surprise:

[InfiniteNow]

Hello!

Hello amkanthal!! Glad you could join us here at Hypography. Enjoy yourself! :lol:

 

 

Cheers. :hihi:

[Harry Costas]

Hello all

 

I tried opening

You might see these links too (for some clarifications of points):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_heaviest_stars

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chandrasekhar_limit

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roche_limit

 

But! I cannot open them.

 

I'm interested in seeing them.

 

Help

[InfiniteNow]

Hello all

 

I tried opening

You might see these links too (for some clarifications of points):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_heaviest_stars

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chandrasekhar_limit

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roche_limit

 

But! I cannot open them.

 

I'm interested in seeing them.

 

Help

Not sure why not, Harry. They work for me. Try copying and pasting them into a seperate browser window. If that doesn't work, just go to wikipedia and type the last term of the address listed into the search bar (i.e. Chandrasekhar limit). You'll be able to view them then.

 

 

Tally ho, 'ole boy.