inside the sun Posted December 13, 2005 Report Posted December 13, 2005 AH! Eureka! There we go, more to the point in that last one. I def. know what you mean. The human mind wanders so much! And when we want something, all we can think about is that, no matter what we do until we get it...and then once we got it, we can once again freely think.:cup: Quote
Pyrotex Posted December 14, 2005 Report Posted December 14, 2005 all i know is... it boggles me how different my thought processes are. not only that, but the thoughts in general, and how attentive i am to my sub and self conciouses. balance everywhere once again... The mind is possibly the most complex structure in the universe. The conscious part is like the willfull foam floating and tossing on the waves of a deep ocean. All our wantings and wonderings are structured in the bubbles of that wave-tossed foam. Meanwhile, the waves themselves, the subconcious underpinnings of our mind, obey different laws and are not under our direct control. Mostly. We can experience orgasm and we alter the substrate chemistry. The waves calm down temporarily. They take new shapes. Or briefly flow in a new direction. And we, the self-aware foam floating on top, can take a measure of pleasure, relax, and ask deep, probing ( :cup: ) questions about our existence. Quote
TheFaithfulStone Posted December 14, 2005 Report Posted December 14, 2005 yes, it feels so good to lovebut i would rather be thinking about science!!progressing my music, or poetry! Maybe you just have an overdeveloped sense of Protestant Shame? TFS edited because I certaintly do. Quote
EWright Posted December 14, 2005 Report Posted December 14, 2005 Hmmm... not one mention of feeling closer to one's partner, etc. I sense a lot of masterbaters in the bunch and WAY TMI in this thread! :cup: Quote
HydrogenBond Posted December 14, 2005 Report Posted December 14, 2005 The two different states of mind before and after sex can be explained by brain potential. The before and after define two different blood and cerebral spinal fluid potentials. Each potential will influence particular neuron firing sequences, which define the memory that is conscious. The desire tone focuses our minds or brain potential, which causes memories associated with the desire dynamics to become conscious. The whole brain is being used with a layer of memory tuned to the brain potential. After sex is over, the blood potential alters, which alters the brain potential. A new memory grid will then fire at this lower potential. Queso 1 Quote
Pyrotex Posted December 14, 2005 Report Posted December 14, 2005 Hmmm... not one mention of feeling closer to one's partner, etc. I sense a lot of masterbaters in the bunch and WAY TMI in this thread! :cup: I feel an impulse to say "it takes one to know one" but I shall resist that impulse. Consider it unsaid.However, in my own defense, I will say that humans are divided into two groups, those that have practiced auto-eroticism, and those that have deep-seated emotional/psychological issues. And I wish the latter all the best luck in the world. IMHO, this is as far as this thread should go in that direction, if'n you catch my drift. Quote
niviene Posted December 14, 2005 Report Posted December 14, 2005 I gotta say that I only felt that weird duality thing before I was with Scott- perhaps something else important to note was that I was never capable of having an orgasm via intercourse before I was with Scott. So my version of duality might just have been my discomfort with my partner before I was with a partner I was truly comfortable with. I have heard of people who actually cry after sex and all kinds of weird things... good topic, orby :cup: But, I don't think that I experience the "up/down" thing... it feels good, and it feels good to lay there afterwords and either fall asleep together or creep to the shower together... one of the nice things about having been together for a long time, I guess, is that the sex gets better, in my opinion. :cup: Quote
infamous Posted December 14, 2005 Report Posted December 14, 2005 I sense a lot of masterbaters in the bunch and WAY TMI in this thread! :cup:Could you explain why you feel that way Mr. EWright??.....................or maybe, it's because that's the same way you feel when you masturbate? Notice the spelling Mr. EWright. Are you actually going to try and convince us that you don't participate in this activity. So now that you have conveniently brought up the question of masturbation, I'll ask you bluntly, have you ever?????????And are you actually going to try to tell us that you have never.............and are you suggesting that there is something wrong with those that have?? niviene 1 Quote
niviene Posted December 15, 2005 Report Posted December 15, 2005 Could you explain why you feel that way Mr. EWright??.....................or maybe, it's because that's the same way you feel when you masturbate? Infy :cup: I agree with you... I'm a little tired of people insinuating that sex or masturbation is dirty or wrong, somehow or other. Sex is only wrong when it's forced on somebody, in my opinion. I'm sure there are some gray areas in there, too... but we're all products of sex. I don't think there are very many people on the planet who can say that haven't masturbated at some point or other in their life - women included. I've heard of places that teach that it's "wrong", too. How horrible! Why is it that people are so afraid of sex? If we didn't turn it into such a "dirty" topic, children wouldn't be so distraught over the topic. It's a huge peer pressure issue, and especially with masturbation - I would love for my children to learn how to do this thing rather than experiment with other people before they're emotionally ready to, or rather than risk getting an STD. Some places refuse to allow minors to buy condoms (or in my case, we had a place that came out and handed them out at our school - people protested!). This is something I can't figure out... you can't stop a teen from having sex if they really want to - so why not at least teach them to use contraception? If we are more comfortable with the topic, it would solve a lot of problems. I don't at all see anything nearing TMI so far in this thread! infamous 1 Quote
EWright Posted December 15, 2005 Report Posted December 15, 2005 Could you explain why you feel that way Mr. EWright??.....................or maybe, it's because that's the same way you feel when you masturbate? Notice the spelling Mr. EWright. Are you actually going to try and convince us that you don't participate in this activity. So now that you have conveniently brought up the question of masturbation, I'll ask you bluntly, have you ever?????????[/Quote] Everytime I look at your smiling avtar face, Infy. :Alien: And are you actually going to try to tell us that you have never.............and are you suggesting that there is something wrong with those that have?? :Alien: I wasn't saying there was anything wrong with self-sex and I didn't mean to offend the masturbaters; I was simply making a scientific observation based on deductive reasoning. You go ahead and wackatack all you like. Oh, and can I maybe get a pinup picture of your avtar for my bedroom wall Infy? :Alien: Quote
infamous Posted December 15, 2005 Report Posted December 15, 2005 :Alien: I wasn't saying there was anything wrong with self-sex and I didn't mean to offend the masturbaters; I see that you've learned to spell masturbate Mr. EWright, good for you. You go ahead and wackatack all you like.Actually Mr. EWright, I'm a happily married man so that is no longer necessary. Oh, and can I maybe get a pinup picture of your avtar for my bedroom wall Infy? :Alien:Actually Mr. EWight, I don't think my wife would approve. BTW, you spell it this way 'avatar'...........Infy Quote
inside the sun Posted December 15, 2005 Report Posted December 15, 2005 its better just to ignore people like mr. EWrighthe just needs attention and even i'm giving it to him by posting this.He is obiviously an instigator/"sh*t stirrer" if you notice the way he answered all your questions.And the way you respond to what he says.It's hard though, as humans we want to defend ourselves, and have the right to. And with this democracy and court and trials, we know we have that right, so we practice as much as we can because we're Innocent until proven guilty.:Alien: I'm glad to see we're all mature here Quote
EWright Posted December 15, 2005 Report Posted December 15, 2005 its better just to ignore people like mr. EWrighthe just needs attention and even i'm giving it to him by posting this.He is obiviously an instigator/"sh*t stirrer" if you notice the way he answered all your questions.And the way you respond to what he says.It's hard though, as humans we want to defend ourselves, and have the right to. And with this democracy and court and trials, we know we have that right, so we practice as much as we can because we're Innocent until proven guilty.:Alien: I'm glad to see we're all mature here Did your therapist help you come up with that one? Exactly what insecurities are you needing to justify/rationalize? Quote
EWright Posted December 15, 2005 Report Posted December 15, 2005 I see that you've learned to spell masturbate Mr. EWright, good for you. Actually Mr. EWright, I'm a happily married man so that is no longer necessary. Actually Mr. EWight, I don't think my wife would approve. BTW, you spell it this way 'avatar'...........Infy Darn it Infy, the good ones are always taken :Alien: I do hope you realize good-natured fun when you see it... I mean, outside of the type of fun being discussed here :Alien: Quote
Pyrotex Posted December 15, 2005 Report Posted December 15, 2005 Infy :Alien: I'm a little tired of people insinuating that sex or masturbation is dirty or wrong, somehow or other. Sex is only wrong when it's forced on somebody, in my opinion. I'm sure there are some gray areas in there, too... but we're all products of sex. I don't think there are very many people on the planet who can say that haven't masturbated at some point or other in their life - women included... ! I not only agree with the poster, but wish that Doctor Koop and his Surgeon General successor had been able to keep this topic in the public forum. Masturbation is not "self abuse". What it is, is "self discovery". There are far too many folks who believe that if we could just NOT talk about it, not let our kids hear the word, pretend that "good" people don't do it, that it is a "perversion" unworthy even of discussion -- that it will go away.It cannot go away.I for one, think that teaching kids that natural self discovery is a "perversion" is an act of child abuse. You might as well teach them that urinating is a "perversion". niviene 1 Quote
sanctus Posted December 15, 2005 Report Posted December 15, 2005 Actually the first time I did it, I didn't even know what I was doing it was just nice... I was about 7 or so. I still remember it because when I eventually discovered that it had a name etc. I got very proud that I found it by myself...was about 8 then... Just what came into my mind reading pyro's post, to underline that a kid discovers all this things by himself so why making it a taboo? Quote
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