The upcoming generation!!!!

[Drip Curl Magic]

Anyway, I don't feel that drinking and smoking in highschool necessarily makes someone unfit for public office later in life. Most people do grow up sometime - hopefully not too late in life - and realize they have a life to live and want to work at making it something. A lot of us make mistakes (or we just see at is "having fun") in our younger years and go on to be better people because we've learned from it. Perhaps it makes us better parents, too, eventually.

 

Just my opinion. As long as kids today can take these things they are doing and learn from them instead of just wasting their lives, then I have no problem with what they do. I want my own children to experience all that life has to offer - I know they're going to want to try things that I don't agree with them doing, and I know I can't stop them, so all I can do is try to share with them that opinion, as well - to learn from it. If they can keep their grades up, I won't be too upset if I find out they tried weed a few times or got wasted at a party - as long as it's not every night. We're alive to live, right? :rainbow:

 

hmmm.... in my experience.... marijuana is the only drug that is managable with a normal lifestyle. The only drug that won't screw me out of a job. The only drug that won't flunk me out of school. The only drug that I can use on a daily basis and be able to quit on short notice.... without having any sort of craving.

 

But alcohol and any other chemically induced intoxication is probably better to be used sparingly.... if that.

[InfiniteNow]

hmmm.... in my experience.... marijuana is the only drug that is managable with a normal lifestyle. The only drug that won't screw me out of a job.

Beware the piss test.

 

The only drug that I can use on a daily basis and be able to quit on short notice.... without having any sort of craving.

That's not true for everybody. I had a real rough time when I quit being a daily toker. Was cranky, didn't eat well, and pretty much thought about it day and night. I don't think there's anything specifically chemical in the addiction, but it certainly has psychological effects. Even a runner, for example, would go through it. If somebody runs all the time then quits, they will go through some form of withdrawal and craving, and it will almost certainly have an impact on their mood. Bud's not any different in that respect.

 

I haven't smoked in a long time and yet as I typed this post I could taste kind bud and my mouth started to water. That's just strange. :rainbow:

[inside the sun]

the dreams.

at first when you stop smoking you start dreaming again, or at least remembering them, and they are full visuals and real.

and then you dream about smoking, blowing your whole protest and antismoking period, and you feel so guilty because you actually think you smoked.

There def. is pyschological cravings.

Personally, im not going to lie, weed isn't really my drug of choice, i rather drop acid, eat some mushrooms, or when it comes down to it, i rather drink some alcohol or smoke a cigerette. Not healthy, not any better than weed, in fact all these things are worse than weed, and kill more people than weed.

I just don't see people dying on shrooms or acid, maybe thinking they are dead, i been there, but look im stil here. I traveled through time, the end of my time, i've died so many times on drugs, but im still here. death is the least of our worries.

I think we are all just justifying laws by coming up with reasons of why they are illegal, i bet you the government hasn't even thought of some of these reasons, but of course they'd agree cuz we are coming up with them.

Bottom line, people fear the unknown, what happened to our explorers, christopher columbus. :rainbow:

[TheBigDog]

...morality shouldn't be a law.

Name a law that is not based upon moral code. One will do.

 

Bill

[Drip Curl Magic]

Beware the piss test.

 

that's never been a problem for me. I drink tons of water constantly. I've got very little body fat(which reduces the ammount of THC that can get stored in my body fat... making cleansing my system way easier) and there are teas you can drink that help flush your system.

 

 

That's not true for everybody. I had a real rough time when I quit being a daily toker. Was cranky, didn't eat well, and pretty much thought about it day and night. I don't think there's anything specifically chemical in the addiction, but it certainly has psychological effects. Even a runner, for example, would go through it. If somebody runs all the time then quits, they will go through some form of withdrawal and craving, and it will almost certainly have an impact on their mood. Bud's not any different in that respect.

 

Ahh, that's to be expected. But it's nothing compared to trying to quit a speed addiction... ya know? THC is one of the least addicting chemicals you can put in your body.... it's about as addicting as a good plate of food. Like if you were to smoke for a week straight.... and then not smoke at all the next week.... it'd be like getting a steak dinner every night for one week... and then switching to mac n cheese.... which isn't too bad of a transition. I mean, it might not be fun being sober.... but it'll do.

[questor]

interesting thread. someone please tell me the advantages to the community or to yourself of drug usage of any kind. is it good for the mind or your body health? do you like to be on the road with other druggies driving under the influence? does it help you get or keep a job? are most of the people you admire druggies? would you like your elected officials and religious leaders to be druggies? what is the good part? why should i admire you or hire you?

[ughaibu]

TheBigDog: There are laws that appear to have arisen from highly specific occurrences rather than from a generalised "moral code", for example, in Atlanta, Georgia, it's illegal to tie a giraffe to a telephone pole or street lamp.

[Queso]

is it good for the mind or your body health?

Balance.

 

Depends on the "drug" sir.

If you're shooting up heroin underneath your fingernails,

that can't be good for the body. At all.

Burning some herb is great for the mind,

but for the body? it's smoking, that's never good.

So there's your "trade-off"

You catch my drift.

do you like to be on the road with other druggies driving under the influence?

 

what kind of question is this?

NO ONE wants to be on the road with "druggies"

nobody should abuse drugs.

The ones who do, are doomed.

 

Certain chemicals symbiotically bond to our brains,

and if your identity yields unboundries

you will have allies

sprouting from the earth!

(just like us)

 

does it help you get or keep a job?

 

come on man,

this is such a broad question.

You just want us to know that you are worried about DRUGS AND JOBS.

 

good for you, dude!

 

what kind of answer do you want?

 

What drugs?

What do you define as a drug?

If you're not on drugs,

you must be on drugs.

 

Not these drugs,

those drugs!

 

I can get high and go to work.

 

everybody i know that appreciates the essence of nonordinary reality can get smoke some bud and go to work, no problem.

 

Most managers smoke with their employees.

(ok ok, what do i mean by most? from what i observed, there is just a high rate of this occurance in places that i have worked.

 

((shh..))

(((you cool, man?)))

 

My friends agree.

 

Oh, and in my opinion....

Somebody who smokes a plant, appreciates what it does for them, and does not abuse it, is NOT a druggie.

 

Somebody who eats a garbage bag full of mushrooms,

while huffing a gasoline tank,

after drinking a bottle of vodka

smoking a rock of crystal methamphetamines,

and snorting 5 lines of cocaine

IS a druggie.

 

Ya dig?

 

officials and religious leaders to be druggies? what is the good part? why should i admire you or hire you?

 

Religious leaders WERE druggies,

just not anymore!!!

 

entheogenic substances were distributed through communites for thousands of years!!!

 

THATS WHERE RELIGION CAME FROM

 

PEOPLE TRIPPING

 

AND WANTING TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES

 

AND QUESTION EVERYTHING

 

science easily disproves all of that religious BS, :lol:

 

In some cultures that still exist today, they practice rituals with psychoactive herbs and plants to enduce a natural, nonordinary reality

SIMPLY BECAUSE WE CAN

and this strange relationship with earth

us humans, our minds

and her

 

it's just amazing.

 

Psychedelics are not to be done at work!

to "trip" is to trip,

far, far away from civilization (Preferably)

 

and if government officials just smoked a tiny bit of bud, this world would definitely be a lot more colorful, and fun.

 

not saying it would be BETTER, beccause that's just my flimsy coiled opinion. :)

 

DONT HIRE ME!

i would not want to work with you Questor:phones:

[Queso]

paid to smoke?

That's ridiculous!

How about,

Total freedom.

No money; grow your own plants +

Herbs.

[inside the sun]

interesting thread. someone please tell me the advantages to the community or to yourself of drug usage of any kind. is it good for the mind or your body health? do you like to be on the road with other druggies driving under the influence? does it help you get or keep a job? are most of the people you admire druggies? would you like your elected officials and religious leaders to be druggies? what is the good part? why should i admire you or hire you?

 

We are all addicts questor. Whether your drug is video games, running, sex, alcohol, heroine or marijuana. Its unhealthy to ABUSE anything. as long as you use responsiably and as long as you aren't doing damage to anyone but a fraction of your health...its unhealthy to sit at a computer playing video games for hours, just as it is to get stoned and just chill. But the stoned person may create art, or have a deep conversation that evolves his communication with another person while the person thrusting away on video games is just escaping reality and getting better at something that wont pay the rent...but hey its fun. Do we need to critize people who live their lives?

Good job...hmm, Hunter S. Thompson...how much money did that mother ****er make, THE BEATLES! Nirvana, Bill Hicks. Are you aware of these people? There is a bigger list than i can write.

What isn't bad for your health. I'm sure smoking pot does just as much harm to your health as drinking a soda. And nothing compared to smoking a cigerette.

Open your mind.

[questor]

are you guys the future leaders of our country? are you the guys that make our country great?

[inside the sun]

negative, we are pirates ::lol:: RRRRRR

[Rincewind]

are you guys the future leaders of our country? are you the guys that make our country great?

Yes, and yes. Yes, they are. :lol:

 

Drug use does not imply drug abuse. Mankind has always used intoxicants, and no amount of legislation or self-righteous posing will change that. Drug use (note I didn't say "abuse") has never stood in the way of good leadership before, and it still won't. Of course, in saying that, realise that the drug "power" does affect leadership detrimentally.

[inside the sun]

as stated before, we are all drug users. whether its a cup of coffee, bar of chocolate or needle full of heroine.

[Drip Curl Magic]

are you guys the future leaders of our country?

 

We already are...

 

If you really think that the new generation is any different than any other generation going back for thousands of years, then, you sir... are failing to see what is right in front of you.

 

would you like your elected officials and religious leaders to be druggies?

 

George bush was a waistoid and snorted lines of coke in college.

 

not only that, look at history, man...

 

Hitler was a powerful man... And he was constantly being prescribed speed and various other stimulants of that calliber by his personal doctor.

 

Not only that, MOST of the founders of religion were also entheogen users. Entheogens are probably what made human beings capable of coming up with ideas and thoeries for why we might be here. If it weren't for man-kinds encounter with magical mushrooms... I doubt any human would have developed the conciousness to say "hey, I wonder why..." and then be able to ramble on about the all mighty "creator" and his will. Religion was a stage in our conscious development... which I strongly believe to be caused by entheogen use.

 

AND there are numerous journalists, musicians, painters, authors, inventors, scientists, and pioneers that have been remembered as legends despite their persistant entheogen use. People like Hunter S. Thompson, Jimi Hendrix, Salvador Dali, Chuck Palahnuik, Bob Marley, Jimmy Carter(yup, the former president), George Washington(surprised?), Tom Petty, Dan Quale(former vice president), Albert Einstein, Thomas Jefferson, Irvine Welsh, and way too many others to list.

 

 

someone please tell me the advantages to the community or to yourself of drug usage of any kind.

 

Who do you think built that structure that you sleep in everynight? Who do you think is selling you your groceries on a daily basis? Who do you think is producing that elaborate art you have hanging on your walls? Who do you think is composing that beautiful music that you have in your car's cd player? Probably a bunch of alcoholics, meth heads, pot heads, acid freaks, e-tards, and sex addicts.

 

And I must ask you.... who do you think wrote those creative-yet-misguided stories in that bible of yours?

 

Drug user or not, we all contribute to society... in some way, shape, or form.

 

are you the guys that make our country great?

 

in some ways, yes we are.

 

is it good for the mind or your body health?

 

Entheogen users may not have the most capable lungs or livers... but what we do have is highly sought after understanding of the world around us. Psychadelic drugs give us a glimps of what things are like from a new perspective... and with that short perspective change, we learn how to let our creative spirit roar louder. We are able to look past the social filters that our brain creates. Rather than thinking of a line and then dicing it down to something "socially acceptable", we just let thoughts flow out of our brains. We are given the chance to realize that the most creative thoughts are the ones that come out with the most impulse.

 

do you like to be on the road with other druggies driving under the influence?

 

That's a silly question... of course not! If practiced, driving while high on marijuana is no more dangerous than driving while sober.

 

BUT when I'm on any other drug, I don't even want to be near cars. My favorite place to intoxicate myself is in the mountains- with nature. And my second favorite place to be is safe at home. Anywhere else is just too weird for me.

 

does it help you get or keep a job?

 

That's what weekends are for.:(

 

are most of the people you admire druggies?

 

It all depends on how that person harnesses the energy of the drug they use. A burnt out meth head bum with 2 teeth and sores all over his body is hardly admirable and for the most part, repulsive. I admire people that ingest entheogens during their free time and create music, paintings, drawings, poetry, and any other form of art. Artists, I believe to be the most beautiful humans to exist.

 

what is the good part? why should i admire you or hire you?

 

If you are in a position to hire people, I assure you that you have already hired drug users. We are sneaky. :( :( :(

[Drip Curl Magic]

I'd also like to post this quote that I found on a website about hemp legalization---

 

"Misconception:Legalizing hemp would send the wrong message to children.

 

 

Reality: The United States is already sending the wrong message to the children by treating a harmless, extremely useful, and renewable industrial crop like a dangerous drug. When children learn that the government has been lying to them about hemp, the will assume that they are also lied to about truly dangerous substances. By not making the distinction between a safe and useful plant and a harmful drug, the message we are sending to the children is that dangerous drugs like heroin, tobacco, and alcohol are no more dangerous then a hemp plant. By condemning hemp, drug enforcement agencies are undermining their credibility."

 

:(

[inside the sun]

amen to drip curl, responding to every question thrown out there and with flying colours!:(