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  1. 1. Poll: My belief regarding evolution

    • I believe in evolution.
      47
    • I do not believe in evolution.
      7
    • I am not sure. Waiting it out based on presentation of further information from both sides.
      4
    • What's evolution? I'm confused. Where am I?
      1


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Posted

More correctly, there have been a lot of posts by very few people about evolution. It's been fairly quiet on that front until today since the last batch of creationists stopped by.

Posted

I think it will be tough to find people who do not believe in evolution at all. Natural selection has been very well established. The missing question is "Do you believe that evolution by itself is responsible for all living things?". I can answer "no" to that without hesitation.

 

Look at wild dogs. They come in a couple of basic shapes and sizes. But in just a few thousand years over a hundred distinct breeds of dogs have come into being, of all sorts of shapes, sizes, temperments, talents and abilities. These did not evolve. They were engineered by man through selective breeding. Same deal with housecats and agriculture. Now with genetic engineering we can accellerate our ability to do this. This is not evidence of intelligent design of man, it is evidence of intelligent design by man - of dogs, cats and roses, tomatoes, oranges, cows, pigs, etc. It is not evidence of divine intelligence, it is evidence of man's intelligence.

 

Bill

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It is not evidence of divine intelligence, it is evidence of man's intelligence.

 

I think it was Carl Sagan who said something like:

 

When Percival Lowell saw canals on Mars, it was perhaps the first evidence for intelligence in the universe. The question was, "at which end of the telescope?"

 

:cocktail:

Posted

Lets put up the official definition while we are at it so we know what page to think over.

from wiki,

 

In biology, evolution is the process by which populations of organisms acquire and pass on novel traits from generation to generation. Its action over large stretches of time explains the origin of new species and ultimately the vast diversity of the biological world. The living species of today are related to each other through common descent, products of evolution and speciation over billions of years. The phylogenetic tree at right represents these relationships for the three major domains of life.

Posted

Few years of being spoon-fed about evolution in school, and another few years of self studying through various sources, I gravitated myself towards believing it.

 

Call it blind faith. :surprise:

Posted
The missing question is "Do you believe that evolution by itself is responsible for all living things?". I can answer "no" to that without hesitation.

I believe that once you have genetic information, subject to random mutations, encased by a permeable membrane, and passed on through reproduction (sexual or asexual) you are pretty well on evolution's path. The thing that I'm trying really hard to get my head around at the moment (I'm currently reading Paul Davies' "The Fifth Miracle") is how that first gene based cell got going in the first place.

 

Also, at what point do the organic molecules making up a cell become a "living thing"?

Posted
More correctly, there have been a lot of posts by very few people about evolution. It's been fairly quiet on that front until today since the last batch of creationists stopped by.

 

 

i'd just like to say i love you too.

 

ps i'm a creationist and a scientifically minded person, yes it does compute.

Posted

Yes, I am one of the creationists. Personally I believe that there is more evidence in the bible of how the world was created than science has came up with, but I do believe in evolution. Saying that there is no evolution is just stupid. I believe GOD created the world in six days. Whether that six days was our six days, or six billion years, I don't know. I do not believe that the world was created by a random bang, and our world was put here in such a perfect way as to stabilize life. That is basically impossible, heck science says its impossible. If that could happen, then we would have found more life by now. I do not know if their was different types of humans, homo erectus, and all the others from what science says we evolved from, but there shows substantial evidence. The bible doesn't talk about all kinds of humans and if humans grew up in mountains for that long period of a time, it is true they could evolved in their own way and been big neanderthals.

 

Basically, I believe that GOD created the world, but that does not mean their was not forms of evolution.

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Posted

The Genesis creation myth, along with the flood myth, is so at odds with observed reality that it's an utter mystery why anyone who has graduated from high school would believe in it. And then we have all the other creation myths... I don't even know how many there are.

 

Creationists reject the scientific theories they don't like, or that goes against their precious faith. One cannot cherrypick what scientific theories to believe, especially not if the only requirement is personal preference.

 

Oh, and here's a question for the religious believers: If you believe that god created the universe etc., and if you believe that the Bible is the word of god, and if they tell different stories, which one do you believe? The Bible could have been written entirely by humans, the universe was most certainly not created by humans. Which one is more likely to be reliable?

Posted

There is so many versions of the subjects in discussion here that it us pointless and ignorant to generalize or steriotype anyone related to anything.

God is described in many ways..

creationalism seems to have tons of different theories

evolution would probably be described differently by each person who voted in this topic.

Since the topic starter did not elaborate on the subjects I decided to vote, Im not sure what your description of these subjects are and so how can I assume I know what details you are expecting me to vote on.

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