inside the sun Posted March 1, 2006 Report Posted March 1, 2006 So why is it more justified to kill bugs or animals over human beings.And why is it more accepted when they kill over us?Is it because of our ego and belief that we are a MORE important living thing, and taking the life of an ANT is nothing, becuase its worthless.I mean the only damn things we care about us killing other than ourselves are things that BENEFIT US, such as TREE's and PLANTS, and some ANIMALS. :hyper: Quote
capnrefsmmat Posted March 1, 2006 Report Posted March 1, 2006 I'm guessing it's mostly due to man's superiority complex. We think we're better than everything else... and in a way, it's true. We could determine the fate of nearly every other species on the planet. I also think it's because humans don't sympathize with animals. When we can connect with another person and actually know who they are, it is much harder for us to kill them over any other little bug or sparrow. Sparrows can't talk to us and tell us their feelings, so we don't feel for them like we would with any other human. Quote
Queso Posted March 1, 2006 Report Posted March 1, 2006 i speak with them,Love for all. mr. sun,this place is very, very strange.and i'm having trouble adapting with this dillusional society.Time to manipulate,observe,and love. Let's talk, oh wait we are. Quote
inside the sun Posted March 1, 2006 Author Report Posted March 1, 2006 yeah we could nuke the whole word...except those damn cockroaches would be alive...along with twinkies Quote
Queso Posted March 1, 2006 Report Posted March 1, 2006 hahahahawhy would you want to do something so disgusting to earth?You're hilarious. Quote
Jay-qu Posted March 1, 2006 Report Posted March 1, 2006 I dont know... We can justify killing animals for food but when an animal kills a human for food or mistake then they are normally hunted and killed... and they dont know any better, like children... am I missing something, no thats just the way things are.. Quote
InfiniteNow Posted March 1, 2006 Report Posted March 1, 2006 So why is it more justified to kill bugs or animals over human beings. It's not. Most of us just let it be. Is it because of our ego and belief that we are a MORE important living thing, and taking the life of an ANT is nothing, becuase its worthless. Not really, although that does play a part. It's because we are often times not aware, and have not been taught the right things in this regard. It's not (always) malicious intent, just blissful ignorance. I found that when I stopped killing every bug and spider I saw, I stopped seeing so many. They stopped bothering me as much. Granted, I do not want them in sight, in my home, or closet, or whatever, but when I see them I'll catch them in a cup and let them outside... It sounds a bit rediculous, but I think they tell all their little bug friends, "Hey, leave that dude alone. He's pretty cool..." and they do! :hyper: Quote
Racoon Posted March 1, 2006 Report Posted March 1, 2006 It sounds a bit rediculous, but I think they tell all their little bug friends, "Hey, leave that dude alone. He's pretty cool..." and they do! :hyper: Unless you're a Farmer trying to feed all the people. :hyper: :hyper: Quote
cwes99_03 Posted March 1, 2006 Report Posted March 1, 2006 1) You could argue it is an animal instinct. Since we are at the top of the food chain we have the right to kill anything. This of course is just an evolutionary stance. 2) You call it Ego, I'll call it right. We were created by a superior power who placed us on earth and told us to have in subjection everything under the sun. This gives us the right to do as we please. 3) We were created by a superior power who placed us on earth and told us to have in subjection everything under the sun, but also gave us laws on respecting life. Therefore, we must weigh every life in the balance, including the lives of bugs and bacteria. In this case, protecting the lives of the human and animal population which is very limited in its ability to reproduce, is much more important than protecting the lives of those things that reproduce at incredulous rates and do harm to others. 4. All life is prescious whether it was created or evolved, and we must let whatever happens, happen. We should only live if it means not harming another living thing (sort of goes along the line of my rights only go so far as to the point that my rights would infringe on anothers rights.) I'm a member of the 3rd group. I have deep respect for all life, but know that for there to be a balance, I have to occasionally kill pests, animals and plants for food, etc. However, out of interests for all species I would not take this to the point of eradicating any lifeform just because I had the power to do so. Quote
InfiniteNow Posted March 1, 2006 Report Posted March 1, 2006 1) You could argue it is an animal instinct. Since we are at the top of the food chain we have the right to kill anything. This of course is just an evolutionary stance.Wow... I think you just crystallized for me why war still occurs in our world. Thanks! :hyper: It's too bad that so many people still believe this... 2) You call it Ego, I'll call it right. We were created by a superior power who placed us on earth and told us to have in subjection everything under the sun. This gives us the right to do as we please.That's just what Jesus would say too! You truly understand the basic tenets of world religion. :phones: 3) We were created by a superior power who placed us on earth and told us to have in subjection everything under the sun, but also gave us laws on respecting life. Therefore, we must weigh every life in the balance, including the lives of bugs and bacteria. In this case, protecting the lives of the human and animal population which is very limited in its ability to reproduce, is much more important than protecting the lives of those things that reproduce at incredulous rates and do harm to others.I'm really not sure because I stopped listening the moment you spoke with a tone of certainty regarding religion and higher powers. You reminded me a bit of the teacher in the Peanut's cartoons just then... 4. All life is prescious whether it was created or evolved, and we must let whatever happens, happen. We should only live if it means not harming another living thing (sort of goes along the line of my rights only go so far as to the point that my rights would infringe on anothers rights.)This simply must be the most hate filled ignorant rhetoric this site has ever seen. Oh, just kidding... :hyper: This would be my choice (if I had to pick from the four you presented). Quote
Eclogite Posted March 11, 2006 Report Posted March 11, 2006 So why is it more justified to kill bugs or animals over human beings.And why is it more accepted when they kill over us?It is a simple reflection of evolution. Species that indiscriminately killed members of their own species would be more likely to become extinct. Equally, killing members of other species only becomes an issue if this is carried out to great excess, so that ones food sources are eliminated.In the same way we have much less concern about animals killing each other - yet look at how upset a sheep farmer will become at coyotes killing some of his flock, for they represent his resource. Quote
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