Time, Dreams, Humans

[Queso]

My room mate John remembered as a child one morning waking from a dream

knowing many things.

He remembers being told all of this stuff in his dream,

that when he woke he asked his father all of these questions

that his dad couldn't figure out where they came from.

So basically, John aquired knowledge in his dream.

 

The other night, me and him successfully extracted Mescaline from the san pedro cacti, and ingested.

 

Eventually we fell asleep, and this is where it gets weird.

 

In the morning, John is glowing like a child.

My room mate is a genius, and I have never seen him so...alive, before.

He tells me that, in his dream, he was conciously aware of the fact that Time, is a dimension.

And he literally broke free from our physical perception of it being LINEAR

and was free to move around Time the way we do within space.

 

He then remembers seeing himself as a child,

and having a convorsation about life, sex, and I forget what else.

But all of the things that he awoke that morning Years ago and just KNEW.

 

What's funny is,

what has happened was inevitable.

It HAD to happen, you know?

 

He's completely different now.

(well not completely) but he's just GLOWING!

Like, a Sorcerer. It's amazing.

 

What do you guys make of this?

I consider this proof that our minds can break free from our linear perception of time WHEN WE ARE OUR ENERGY BODIES.

you are your energy body in your sleep,

ducked down into your subconcious

where you receive,

and project.

 

John time traveled.

And it's not a big deal, because WE CAN ALL DO IT.

 

If you are going to respond, PLEASE read the whole thread so your not responding to just the small bit you read.

Yeah it's long, but if you don't want to read it, don't.

this is a very serious thread.

[Racoon]

So basically, John aquired knowledge in his dream.

The other night, me and him successfully extracted Mescaline from the san pedro cacti, and ingested.

Eventually we fell asleep, and this is where it gets weird.

My room mate is a genius,

Time, is a dimension.

And he literally broke free from our physical perception of it being LINEAR

you are your energy body in your sleep,

ducked down into your subconcious

John time traveled.

And it's not a big deal, because WE CAN ALL DO IT.

this is a very serious thread.

 

I like this new thread Idea Orb.

Dreams are such complicated things.

I thought it was the Brains way of assimilating daily events with your memories.

 

That is weird,:steering:

But how Cool!

Wouldn't that kinda' be like Astral Projecting, in dream state??

Or is it simply imagination??

 

Imagine.

The Possibilities.

:hyper:

Hook his brain up to some electrodes, and get a Brain Wave Pattern.

[TheBigDog]

There was a post a few days ago by a woman who was asking about dreams her son was having. She and her husband were frightened by the clarity of what he seemed to be learning while sleeping. The content sounded similar to the dreams your friend is having. I was trying to find the thread to re-read and compare, but no luck. If I find it I will link it here.

 

In the mean time, I would suggest reading some Richard Bach, if you have not already. His philosophy, while not identical, seems congruent to yours. You may find his work interesting.

 

"Illusions" and "Jonathan Livingston Seagull"

 

Bill

[Queso]

Meh,

Not exactly what I was looking for in Replies.

[Racoon]

Yaaawwwn Orby. :steering:

 

Give peace and hope a chance.

Since I have never tried mescaline, I can't exactly understand what you and your roomate experienced.

I have tried Acid and Shrooms before; so I can kinda' use that to relate.

 

Time Travel? Like how? and when?

Back to the Big Kaboom?

Back to the stone age?

Into the Future?

 

All at the same time because time is Not linear?

Need more details....

[Queso]

ok this has nothing to do with drugs, I was just getting into detail.

As energy bodies (Mind) We can perceive time as a normal dimension,

unlike we can in our physical universe.

[TheBigDog]

ok this has nothing to do with drugs, I was just getting into detail.

As energy bodies (Mind) We can perceive time as a normal dimension,

unlike we can in our physical universe.

I stand by my book recommendations. They are right on point. And they are short.

 

Bill

[Queso]

Your book reccomendations probably have nothing to do with your energy body, and what occurs to the mind (the intangible thing that we all talk about and can not identify it's whereabouts) during Sleep.

 

Basically,

Humans in the future will know how to move their energy bodies around time exactly like we do space.

Humans are doing it now,

We are evolving.

[TheBigDog]

Your book reccomendations probably have nothing to do with your energy body, and what occurs to the mind (the intangible thing that we all talk about and can not identify it's whereabouts) during Sleep.

 

Basically,

Humans in the future will know how to move their energy bodies around time exactly like we do space.

Humans are doing it now,

We are evolving.

They are entirely about the human mind and our perceptions of reality. Are they specific to a sleeping state? No. But they talk about the ability to experience what you are crediting as being a side effect of sleeping while you are awake.

 

I personally feel that the human mind is functioning the same way all the time. But while we are awake we are so consumed by sensory input that we cannot hear the voice of our relaxed mind. When we are sleeping, and our bodies are detuned from sensory stimulation we become acutely aware of the inner functions of the mind. Try sensory deprivation and see how your mind can race to wild destinations while wide awake.

 

I used to have a thing I bought called "the brain machine". It was like a set of goggles with led lights on the inside. You would put it on and close your eyes. The lights would flash at frequencies that would stimulate different brain states. Again, the idea was to block your visual sense and replace it with a "dream" state. I had purchased the thing because it said you could get the equivalent of 8 hours sleep in a 50 minute session with this thing. Didn't do that for me, but the visions I got with those goggles on were amazing!

 

Bill

[Queso]

very interesting.

 

but what do you guys think about exploring time as an omnidimension like space when we are unrestricted by the universal physics

LIKE IN OUR DREAMS

when we are just our energy bodies!

Why have two eyes when you can KNOW you can see in ALL directions while you think about Knowing that you are sleeping, and can do whatever you want.

 

You can interact with other energy bodies when you are in this state, too.

Bigdog suggests this is possible while awake?

Definitely.

Sleeping, you are more succeptable though.

So vulnerable,

[Drip Curl Magic]

bahhh, humbug.

[Queso]

i was hoping some people seriously good with physics and the properties of dimensions could give me some thorough scientific answers.

But that didn't happen.

thanks anyways this is the first time in a year that i have to find another forum for one of my questions.

[Binary_Branflakes]

Orb,

I have had some similar experiences that you speak of. Most people think I'm absolutely nuts when I try and describe my experiences. but they are very very real and each one i have, indeed changes me. it changes the way you view life and time and the human being.

[InfiniteNow]

Why the hostility Orb? You had an amazing dream and you're pissed off because none of us acknowledged dreaming the same thing? None of us had done the homework for you to research the physics behind what you now understand? Come on... that's not like you, dude. Chill.

 

My first thoughts went to the concept of wormholes, or Einstein-Rosen bridges, somehow manifested through thought, but I'm really not inclined to get into it with you here because you've attacked every post put forth so far.

[Queso]

Mr. Now,

Come on man,

I was not attacking

NOR was this MY dream,

It was my friend John's dream.

 

I simply had to post in a different forum, I didn't get the kind of responses I was looking for here.

No attack there.

 

If i were to attack you,

I would rip you apart and feast on your insides and laugh the hardest I've ever laughed,

ever.

So please reconsider your use of the word attack in regards to my words.

I have no intentions like that towards anybody here @ Hypography at all.

 

Hmm, maybe If i used smilies up there I wouldn't sound hostile.

 

It's Text to be interpreted. :steering:

[CraigD]

…

What do you guys make of this?

…

John time traveled.

And it's not a big deal, because WE CAN ALL DO IT.

This is an extraordinary claim, and, as such, needs extraordinary evidence to be believed by a scientific community.

 

I recommend that, prior to any effort to create a theory to explain the time travel it implies, we design an experiment to test the claim.

 

If John, or anyone else capable of the described time travel, is able to witness events that have not, from the usual linear time perspective, yet occurred, a simple experiment can be designed. For example, John could travel forward in time to witness what appears on web browser pointed to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page as of 12:00 PM EST April 1, 2006. If he has at least average memory, he should be able to memorize the first three words of “Today’s Featured Article” – for today, that would be "This Charming Man". John can recite these words to orbsycli, who can PM them to several trusted hypography members, who assert that they have no influence on the content of wikipedia. At 12:00 4/1, orbsycli and/or John assure that the browser viewed via time traveling is pointed to the correct page. At the same time, the members entrusted with his prediction look at the wikipedia page, then post the words that appear on it, along with the words predicted by John. If the words match, the claim is supported.

 

:steering: Orbsycli, do you think this experiment design is feasible? Can you and/or John perform its first step - travel forward to memorize first three words of “Today’s Featured Article” at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page as of 12:00 PM EST April 1, 2006, then PM the message to several trusted members? Can anyone find flaw with the design of this experiment, suggest improvements or alternative designs?

[TheBigDog]

Looks like a good idea to me. It could actually prove two postulates. First that time travel is happening. Second that there is only one future. If we have free will then there is no guarantee that what is seen in the future will still hold true when we reach the future. If we have no free will then this experiment would work without exception. Even if an individual had influence over what the future witnessed events were. So it is really two experiments. First a blind test of precognition. Second a test to alter events to invalidate precognition. I find this very intriging. :steering:

 

Bill