Anarchy and the aim of evolution

[sanctus]

As you see in my signature I do believe in utopies.

One of those utopies is that I believe the aim of human evolution should be anarchy. By anarchy I mean a society where there is no need for laws not one where they have been abolished.

 

ALthough I'm aware that my grandchildren (if I'll have some) will be already long-time dead before the "ultimate society" exists, I still believe it os the thing we should try to work towards. What do you think?

[Queso]

i think that since it already occured,

it is inevitable,

Sanctus I hope we're there along our Time.

[Buffy]

Laws? We don't need no steekeeng laws!

 

Actually I think theres a strong argument that the only way that things improve and evolve over time is via creative destruction and conflict, which is always bringing us perilously close to the brink of anhilation. If we don't set up some rules for ourselves, we'll never pull back and its bye-bye baby.

 

The other conclusion here is if we get to your nirvana of no need for laws, we are basically stagnant. Nothing new left to do! :naughty:

 

Don'tcha think that letting the big companies do whatever they damn well please is in essence "working toward anarchy?"

 

Bollocks,

Buffy

[Queso]

The other conclusion here is if we get to your nirvana of no need for laws, we are basically stagnant. Nothing new left to do! :naughty:

 

even with that cute face i've got to REJECT

and claim insanity!

 

Are you KIDDING me?

with no laws i would be RUNNING AROUND NAKED

picking fruit

sticking to my roots

and doing something different every day.

 

Constantly converting, creating,

Life is this, and that.

And it makes me sad to see it up in smog.

To make love in the grass

is to accept death, along with balance.

 

I'm actually sorry,

I'm wasted.

[questor]

laws are to protect each of us from others who would do us dirt. if we are to be without laws, we must be without evil. this means a total change in human nature. what is the timetable for this ?

[Pyrotex]

laws are to protect each of us from others who would do us dirt. if we are to be without laws, we must be without evil. this means a total change in human nature. what is the timetable for this ?

How about next Thursday at 5 PM, at my place?

 

Seriously now folks--if we are to be without laws, perhaps we must have a clear vision of what is possible for us (individually and as a culture), we must have a profound belief in our own abilities and responsibilities, and we must have a strong desire to live up to the expectations of those around us. We must believe in utopia and know that we are contributing to it and experience the rewards of that path.

 

So, what is this "evil" stuff you speak of?

[WildRose1010]

We truly need not have laws, as long as you have self-discipline. Even though I could, only theoretically, rob a bank, AND get away with it, I have the self-discipline to not do it. It is not the fear of breaking a law and facing consequences that stops me, I do not fear death, nor imprisonment, though I do also disagree with that as well, it only demeans the integrity of the one behind bars and the one that put the other there. The only thing that stands in our way is Jealously. It is that one emotion that really makes problems. But, if we could share ALL that we have, losing the idea of ownership and money and power over others, then we will have our utopia.

[InfiniteNow]

Are you KIDDING me?

with no laws i would be RUNNING AROUND NAKED

picking fruit

sticking to my roots

and doing something different every day.

And this is different from your current behavior... how? :naughty:

[InfiniteNow]

How about next Thursday at 5 PM, at my place?

Ahhhh.... if only I could give you some rep for that post. :naughty:

[InfiniteNow]

The only thing that stands in our way is Jealously. It is that one emotion that really makes problems.

But there are some positive aspects of this Dangerous Passion...

 

 

But, if we could share ALL that we have, losing the idea of ownership and money and power over others, then we will have our utopia.

I can completely appreciate the tone of your statement. While I contend there are a few more factors, I commend the desire and basic understanding you show here. Cheers. :naughty:

[ingannilo]

Yes, rally 'round the anarchist.

 

Except that negates the anarchy

by having a center of attention

or a call to arms

 

Anarchy is the song that'll never play

because it's composer cannot exist.

[Queso]

hmmm

the concept of anarchy Used to exist, though.

For a long time, before we, you know....

made laws.

 

I'm not saying i'm an anarchist,

just a weird human.

I'm saying that since it used to exist, I'm sure we'll fall back to it one day.

when there are significantly less humans, of course.

[sanctus]

Well, about the timetable i agree we are a long way from it. And yes, at the moment i wouldn't want to live with no laws, humans aren't so far yet. But this "radical change" in human behaviour as someone said in a post above is only radical if we would be able to live in anrachy already next week. I speak about the evolution of human society and so far I never heard of a radical evolution, it will last its time...

I just believe that if we had to choose a direction of the evoultion it should be towards anarchy.

[Queso]

I agree,

and maybe give it a different name.

For instance, how about

TOTAL FREEDOM

you know?

[Queso]

impossible with this many Human beings though,

we're going to need to die off

significantly.

[questor]

if you truly do not understand this concept, you may Google the word for insight.

''So, what is this "evil" stuff you speak of?''

 

are the posters here aware that there are many cultures in the world other than ours? and that many of these cultures are bent upon murder and mayhem? and the thought process is totally different? how does this fit into the idea of a utopia?

[Zythryn]

laws are to protect each of us from others who would do us dirt. if we are to be without laws, we must be without evil. this means a total change in human nature. what is the timetable for this ?

 

Can we get this done by Tuesday:hyper:

 

Seriously though, I agree that if all humans treated each other with respect and no one took advantage of others we would reach a level of a perfect world. However, I don't believe you can 'make' people behave this way. You would need to eliminate need, jealousy, disease, among the entire population of earth, all at the same time.

 

I don't believe this is possible this millenia (maybe in 3 or 4 if we make it that far:)).

 

Mark