hallenrm Posted March 30, 2006 Report Posted March 30, 2006 We all believe in certain beliefs, we hold to be absolute truths.Many of these beliefs are essential for our survival, but all to often we never care to check if they hold true, perhaps because we are most often preengaged in other persuits, may be we are lazy. The belief is just a convenience.:eek2: Quote
TheBigDog Posted April 8, 2006 Report Posted April 8, 2006 Absolute truth: a myth. :singer:Which myth? Bill Quote
Eclogite Posted April 8, 2006 Report Posted April 8, 2006 We all believe in certain beliefs, we hold to be absolute truths.Speak for yourself.:shrug: Quote
ingannilo Posted April 8, 2006 Report Posted April 8, 2006 Which myth? Bill I was implying that there is no absolute truth. In regards to anything. All things are relative! C'mon. Every belief ever established has changed and mutated; negating it. Quote
TheBigDog Posted April 8, 2006 Report Posted April 8, 2006 I was implying that there is no absolute truth. In regards to anything. All things are relative! C'mon. Every belief ever established has changed and mutated; negating it.It is my contention that all things are not relative. Saying that it is absolutly true that all beliefs are eventually proven wrong is a belief that contradicts itself. To follow that logic is to say that all beliefs are wrong, therefore it is a fallacy to ever believe anything. At some point you have to take hold of certain things being true and build a life upon those beliefs. Where your chioces in belief contradict those choices of others you need to have some barrier that allows for peaceful coexistance. It is the forcing of belief systems upon people that leads to conflict. And "all things are relative" is just as bad a belief system to force on the unwilling as any other. Bill Quote
pgrmdave Posted April 9, 2006 Report Posted April 9, 2006 Sorry, but to say that there are no absolute truths is to claim that there is at least one. Quote
arkain101 Posted April 9, 2006 Report Posted April 9, 2006 my thought exactly, no absolue truth would be saying... All things are a relative truth. Quote
arkain101 Posted April 9, 2006 Report Posted April 9, 2006 dave, can you translate your sig into english? Quote
CraigD Posted April 10, 2006 Report Posted April 10, 2006 … what do you all make of a “truth” like “the sum of the lengths of any two sides of a triangle is not less than the length of the remaining side?” (the triangular inequality) Is relative, absolute, impossible to determine without additional information, or not a “truth”? (and, of course, why?) :shrug: Quote
hallenrm Posted April 10, 2006 Author Report Posted April 10, 2006 That CraigD depends on the geometry you are considering, in plane geometry it is a truth we cannot question, but in other geometeries? Remember the changes brought about in the past century when we realized spherical geometry!:cup: There are many more geometries to be discovered:) :) Quote
Doctordick Posted April 10, 2006 Report Posted April 10, 2006 We all believe in certain beliefsI am afraid I can't include myself in that category. Please explain to me why it is necessary to believe anything. Why can't you just turn your life over to your instincts and not worry about their being right or wrong. Survival has bestowed you with them so they are very apt to be in accordance with successful interactions with the universe; right or wrong seems to me to be a rather meaningless concept. Plus that, not worrying about things leaves me lots of time to think about them and that's fun. :cup: Have fun -- Dick God save me from people who know what ought to be done; they are the single most dangerous element in the universe. Quote
Pyrotex Posted April 11, 2006 Report Posted April 11, 2006 Absolute truth: a myth.You must be myth taken. Quote
TheBigDog Posted April 11, 2006 Report Posted April 11, 2006 I am afraid I can't include myself in that category. Please explain to me why it is necessary to believe anything. Why can't you just turn your life over to your instincts and not worry about their being right or wrong. Survival has bestowed you with them so they are very apt to be in accordance with successful interactions with the universe; right or wrong seems to me to be a rather meaningless concept. Plus that, not worrying about things leaves me lots of time to think about them and that's fun. :confused: Have fun -- Dick God save me from people who know what ought to be done; they are the single most dangerous element in the universe.So, you are a strick believer in non-belief. How does your tail taste? Bill Quote
Pyrotex Posted April 11, 2006 Report Posted April 11, 2006 We all believe in certain beliefs, we hold to be absolute truths...)Anybody here have any interest in defining our terms? :confused: How is 'believing' distinguished from 'knowing'?How is a 'belief' distinguished from an 'opinion'?Can we speak of a personal (local) 'belief' as distinct from a cultural (global) 'Belief'?What makes a belief (or Belief) 'absolute'?If you disbelieve a belief, what do you call it? :naughty: Quote
ingannilo Posted April 11, 2006 Report Posted April 11, 2006 I don't think any one thing can exist completely independently of any other, which in my mind is the notion of absolute. If we're being this thorough, to exist is to believe. Quote
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