Will World Peace Occur??

[Uriah]

InfiniteNow and Saitia, you both have represented my own views on this topic. It's quite amazing to see others thinking like yourself.

 

I totally believe world peace as desribed above, and much more than the defintion, is attainable. In this lifetime? I cannot say but know it will come about when critical mass is reached. How many humans wanting peace and living peace is that... I cannot say either but feel, as I have talked with many it is millions but is nearing sooner than many think.

[Uriah]

In response to the discussion of a world government I urge you to take a look at these two sites. They offer an alternative to the current form of government and social structure. It will be apparent that distortions of truth have occured and can be cleared if the text is read unbiasedly and objectively. It also gives a bit of hope knowing more people have been exposed to alternatives even if they don't agree. It let's us know something else is out there.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-syndicalism

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism

[MagnetMan]

Evolutionary imperatives generated by environmental stresses are already forcing human consciousness to develope to a more adult level of self-awareness.

The new consciousness will be logicall attracted to the ethic of global stewardship. This will lead to the collapse of capitalism and it's artificial base of private ownership. The new occupational contract with be engaged in the large-scale challenges of planet management and will be governed by an ideology of custodianship

[Kayra]

Evolutionary imperatives generated by environmental stresses are already forcing human consciousness to develope to a more adult level of self-awareness.

The new consciousness will be logicall attracted to the ethic of global stewardship. This will lead to the collapse of capitalism and it's artificial base of private ownership. The new occupational contract with be engaged in the large-scale challenges of planet management and will be governed by an ideology of custodianship

 

Nope

[Kayra]

Any form of world government for mankind would, in my opinion, spell disaster for earth's people. Concentrating global power in any central area is just BEGGING for trouble on so many levels.

 

As it stands, a global police force under the auspice of a governing body made up of representatives from each country(U.N.), while slow to act and sometimes ineffectual, would be my preferred choice. At least such a force would have checks and balances built in that would likely prevent global scale abuse of power.

 

I believe that our current level of freedom often stems from the fact that no single government controls the entire globe. Imagine if even one of the more enlightened governments like the United States were allowed to run the entire world. A single leader making global scale decisions with no means of recourse for the common man (except to not allow that person a second chance at making those decisions 4 freaking years from now) should scare the living crap out of any sane person.

 

Just consider the consequences of someone running the world that thinks they can justify something like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSA_warrantless_surveillance_controversy

 

And this is in a setting where the people PRIDE themselves on their own personal freedom.

 

World Government for peace? I would rather have the occasional war.

[Queso]

Nope

 

:)

 

yup.

[MagnetMan]

World Government for peace? I would rather have the occasional war.

 

We are engaged in 300 wars right now.

 

I spent much of my life in the Third World.

I think your tune would change if you were born and raised in a mud hut and the tribe next door spears babies for sport.

 

I think your tune will change anyway if mass change does not happen soon.

 

We are complacent beause we have always managed to land back on our feet despite wars. But more people will be born in the next 25 years than there ever where in the preceeding million. So we are looking at the growth of ever more wars - over ever less resources.

 

That exponential factor will swamp us all unless we start to think outside the gun, make peace and get busy with some real work.

 

If you have kids and grandkids, that reality has to be factored into your thinking.

[Freddy]

Human beings being what they are it remains doubtful world peace will ever arrive.

[Kayra]

:naughty:

 

yup.

 

Still nope.

He did not say anything that was provable.

Stating it as fact (as he always does) simply does not make it so.

Evolutionary changes do not occur from 1 generation to the next, or even within 3 or 4 generations. Evolution does not work on that timescale without environmental stresses that cause the loss of 99% of the population (at least).

 

The rest of the "global stewardship" is the same baseless stuff he has been peddling all along. It says nothing. It has no scientific basis that I can see.

 

While his heart is in the right place, I much prefer the conversations with him that include some semblance of logic, as opposed to his flat out statements of "Fact".

[TheBigDog]

Peace is in the eye of the beholder. Are slaves at peace because they do not wage war against their oppressors?

 

Bill

[Kayra]

We are engaged in 300 wars right now.

 

Global government by one person or group is a solution to this?

No more war, because one form of government will be forced on everyone in the entire world, regardless of local needs, desires, culture, or religion. This sounds more like repression then solution. Something a lot of people have died fighting to prevent. Freedom is WORTH fighting a war over.

 

I spent much of my life in the Third World.

I think your tune would change if you were born and raised in a mud hut and the tribe next door spears babies for sport.

 

Global government by one person or group is a solution to this?

No more tribal war because the tribal leaders will respect this global government. This global government will absolutely step in at a tribal level and expend resources to help. Sure, I can see this.

I really like your use of the imagery to sway opinion. (Spearing babies for sport for crying out loud).

 

I think your tune will change anyway if mass change does not happen soon.

 

Global government by one person or group is a solution to this?

That may very well be true. I do speak from the nice white tower of a peaceful nation, and this does allow me to reflect on things at a higher level then just bare survival.

 

We are complacent beause we have always managed to land back on our feet despite wars. But more people will be born in the next 25 years than there ever where in the preceeding million. So we are looking at the growth of ever more wars - over ever less resources.

 

That exponential factor will swamp us all unless we start to think outside the gun, make peace and get busy with some real work.

 

If you have kids and grandkids, that reality has to be factored into your thinking.

 

Global government by one person or group is a solution to this?

Not by a very very very long shot.

[ck27]

I believe this is more of a person opinion question and i posted no world peace will never occur just because of where i personally believe the future is heading.

 

Also we will always have these nutheads in goverment trying to plow others over for there own benefit.

[MagnetMan]

Global government by one person or group is a solution to this?

Not by a very very very long shot.

 

Kayra, when you remove all the ethnic BS out of the way and look at man holistically, you see that we are really only one family. And there are affectionate families that live in peace and harmony and work together for the good of the family estate.:)

[Kayra]

Kayra, when you remove all the ethnic BS out of the way and look at man holistically, you see that we are really only one family. And there are affectionate families that live in peace and harmony and work together for the good of the family estate.:)

 

Very true MagnetMan. When we remove all the ethnic BS. Of course, that ethnic BS is tied to racial BS, national BS, tribal BS, religious BS, linguistic BS, and cultural BS. Ethnic is the very definition of these items.

 

Remove all of these piles of BS and you have.... one persons view of how the world should be. Now lets force that view on everyone else in the world. there you have world peace.

 

While it is the Ethnic BS that separates us, and indeed is the most common cause of our conflicts, it is also how we see ourselves as "Special". Ethnic differences can never be removed without removing what makes us human.

 

 

Family

I have complete and utter respect for the wisdom and intelligence of my mother. If she were placed in charge of the world government today, the world would be a better place instantly.

 

The complete opposite is true of my father or step father. I would fight, and fight hard to prevent a world from being run by the likes of either of these men.

 

Your point of view that we are one family is exactly correct. Take that family, include all the widespread distance cousins, uncles, aunts, great whatevers, and put them all together. Keep in mind that this family will have a modicum of ethnic similarity.

 

Do you think you will get peace?

[InfiniteNow]

If we removed all of the BS, there are many posts on this site which would have long ago been deleted... :)

[Kayra]

If we removed all of the BS, there are many posts on this site which would have long ago been deleted... :)

 

Ooch, that would reduce my post count to 7

[InfiniteNow]

If we removed all of the BS, there are many posts on this site which would have long ago been deleted...

Ooch, that would reduce my post count to 7

 

Lol... I'd have given you rep for that if I could've. :)

 

Scary part is my post count would reduce to 7 too... :)