The meaning of 'Freedom'...

[infamous]

Freedom is the ability to never need to do anything. Freedom can only be achieved through death.

That point of view beggs the question: Who among you want to be free?

 

I prefer to be free to see.

I prefer to be free to hear.

I prefer to be free to speak.

I prefer to be free to think.

I prefer to be free to act.

 

 

None of which I am free to do when I'm dead........................Infy

[Queso]

be all that you can be - Army

 

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[Spiked Blood]

Not one person can truly be free. We are all subject to needs, needs which must be fufilled.

 

If it's your desire to be free, is that not a paradox itself?

 

Having choice is not freedom, because once you take an action, then you have limited what you could have done.

 

Freedom is nothing. Freedom is death.

[armofreek]

Freedom, is the understanding that everything we do as humans will have no effect on the universe we live in whatsoever.

 

Freedom, is the realization that our time on this planet is limited, and utterly pointless.

 

Freedom, is the collapse of the 4 dimensions we love, and the release of our souls into another dimension (death and the afterlife. im not religious, but i believe there must be another dimension that our conciousness resides in during and after our bodies sustain space and time. once our bodies are depleted, then our conciousness can be free to roam this 5th dimension)

 

freedom is plur

[BEAKER]

There's freedom; and then there's free-dumb.

 

Which category would you like to consider yourself to be in?:girl_hug:

[BEAKER]

Having choice is not freedom, because once you take an action, then you have limited what you could have done.

 

Would you rather relinquish your right to make a choice at all, in favor of totally turning the decision over to someone else - someone who might choose the very last thing you would prefer out of the possible options?

 

By then it's too late to go back and make the choice you might have.

[BEAKER]

Having choice is not freedom, because once you take an action, then you have limited what you could have done.

 

Freedom is nothing. Freedom is death.

 

By not choosing you have limited yourself even more.:girl_hug:

[Boerseun]

However morbid it may seem at first, I have to agree 100% with Spiked Blood.

Freedom from needs and wants is only achievable through death.

 

Any one single moment of consciousness can probably be attributed to one or other need. Consciousness in this regard can then arguably be called the mental interface between needs and satisfaction of said needs. If we didn't have complicated requirements, would we have developed a complicated brain? Look at a sea slug - it's list of possible needs consists of maybe two or three things, like eating, procreation, and swimming from danger.

 

Concerning Freedom, then, our dungeonmaster isn't an oppressive dictatorial government, its the few pounds of gray matter between our ears that enslaves us to ever more complex wants and needs that need to be fulfilled - the fulfillment of which only prompts the brain to invent some bigger want.

 

And the only way to escape this dungeonmaster is through death.

[hallenrm]

I would like to repeat my words in the thread Freedom?

 

Yes, we all feel the lack of freedom while living in a society, social concerns, family concerns, moral concerns all add up towards limiting our freedom, that is, what we can do.

 

But, even if all these limitations were not there, that is, in the idyllic situation when one can survive alone in a distant corner, away from everybody, can we be free even then?

 

No, there is another dimension, and that is imposed by our genetic disposition. If one want to excel in a sports or a profession, one cannot do so always, our body, our mental disposition comes in the way.:confused:

[Billy]

Not one person can truly be free. We are all subject to needs, needs which must be fufilled.

 

If it's your desire to be free, is that not a paradox itself?

 

Having choice is not freedom, because once you take an action, then you have limited what you could have done.

 

Freedom is nothing. Freedom is death.

 

But we are free if we want to say something we can something we dont have to got to work but we chose to go to work, we dont have to have children we chose to have children