The New Age Paradigm. Are we experiencing a mass change of consciousness?

[MagnetMan]

Are we leaving an Old Age of rebellious independence, colonial exploitation, religious Protestation and scientific self-determination?

 

Are we entering a Nuclear Age paradigm of global inter-dependence, environmental concern, ontological spirituality and scientific indeterminancy?

 

Is the collective graduating beyond its prodigal teens, putting an end to gambling at Russian roulette with nuclear guns, racing fast cars and chasing fast women?

 

Are we reaching for our majority, becoming committed parents and preparing to steward the home planet as a single family estate?

 

Is a New Age happening at this moment in time?

[Racoon]

 

Is a New Age happening at this moment in time?

 

Reality is the reality you create. :shrug:

 

New thoughts are always happening...

[Eclogite]

MM, no to all the above. Wishful thinking is a great comfort, but has little practical application.

[HappytheStripper]

The New Age Paradigm. Are we experiencing a mass change of consciousness?

 

MM ... I was attracted to Your original question ... and Yes ... Mankind is experiencing a shift in energies ... a paradigim shift - or so to speak ... and a change in the level of consciousness ... and this change is happening in everything ... we see this change in all the scientific studies ... we hear this change in the environment ... we feel these changes in everything we do ... we touch upon our experiences with everything we say ...

 

To list everything in between would be to write the biggest text book for life in the world ... I will discuss this in other forums ...

 

More importantly ... we are aware of these changes happening ... and consciousness then becomes ... conscious awareness ... it is then the shift concludes ...

[minna]

It's so hard to determine with what is happening in the world. I think we are at a 'in-between' period where both applies. On one hand trade, communication are on their way to globalisation (besides third-word countries) we are more aware of enviornmental and humanitarian issues. On the other hand since or even pre-September 11th a lot has changed to alter what we used to see as inevitable globalisation and it is leading us to question if it is really inevitable. I think from what's happening now, religious protests will not go away. And it might take less than we think to spark a change that will result in a world different from both 'Old Age of rebellious independence' and 'Nuclear age' you mentioned.

 

PS.Fast cars and women...that probably will never change:D

[CraigD]

Are we experiencing a mass change of consciousness?

If a requirement of a change in consciousness is that the individual experiencing it at least believes it to have occurred, and “mass” in this context means “widespread”, then the answer is no. Only a small portion of the population believe themselves to have New Age consciousness. Most do not.

 

In my experience, there’s little to be found wanting in the consciousness of the great majority of individuals. Most people want pleasant, peaceful lives, and furthermore, see helping others to have the same as an important part of such a life. It appears to me that collections of people – families, gangs, tribes, nations, etc. – are required for (but do not inevitably cause) less sensible desires to become dominant. Even within the worst of collections – murderous gangs, aggressive, oppressive imperial nations, etc. – the majority of individuals believe they are working for good.

 

The change in consciousness I would like to see – I’m more comfortable calling it a change in behavor - must, I believe, be a change in the behavior of these collections, more than one in that of individuals.

 

I’m optimistic that collections of people of all scales are gradually improving – behaving as well collectively as most of their members do individually. The change is due for the greater part, I think, to improvements in systems of law, government, and trade, a slow process, on a time scale measured in human generations, and full of long and terrible setbacks. While New Age consciousness is very important and beneficial for a small portion of humanity, and conventional religion – The Buddha, Christ Consciousness, Islam, etc. – to many more, law, government and trade are most important to the whole.

[HydrogenBond]

The internet is helping this change. If you surf the web anywhere in the world, web sites have a certain common structure and can be translated into any language. This is allowing everyone to have one foot in their culture and one foot in a common world culture. The big lure was and is online pornography and sales pitch.

 

Here me out. The global porno and sales pitch increases desire. Desire is not just expressed in sex but in all walks of life. We desire to be rich, we desire food, we desire truth, we desire a new car, computer, etc., The increase concentration of desire based neurochems (eq., dopamine) will cause a global restlessness for more ways to express and satisfy the increasing desire. This will gradually create a greater need for individual independance away from the limitations of particular cultures. One will need a bigger playground leading to a world culture.

[Queso]

have fun with these thoughts..!

 

http://hypography.com/forums/biology/5000-self-manifesting-neo-human-evolution.html

[CraigD]

The internet is helping this change. If you surf the web anywhere in the world, web sites have a certain common structure and can be translated into any language.

I agree – thought the “language portability” of the www is not at present as good as it could or should be.

 

Any technology that reduces the barriers of language and culture that cause people to brand others as “not like us” is, I believe, a good, good technology :)

The big lure was and is online pornography and sales pitch.

 

Here me out. The global porno and sales pitch increases desire. Desire is not just expressed in sex but in all walks of life. We desire to be rich, we desire food, we desire truth, we desire a new car, computer, etc., The increase concentration of desire based neurochems (eq., dopamine) will cause a global restlessness for more ways to express and satisfy the increasing desire.

You’re correct, I think, about the significance of porn in promoting (and funding!) the internet. The neurochemicals to which I believe you’re referring (dopamine, serotonin, etc.) are not precisely desire based, but satiation based, produced not by the desire for a thing, but by the having of it. Desire, per say, is a stressor, correlating with reduced levels of these neurochemicals, and increased levels of neurochemicals correlating with aggression (adrenaline, testosterone, etc.)

 

Desire plays an important roll in satiation – without the former, it’s difficult to have the latter – but things that increase desire without delivering satisfaction (ads for products we don’t truly want, or can’t afford, or those that promote unrealistic standards or beauty or wealth) are, I strongly suspect, unhealthy. By this standard, most porn as (ahem (sound of clearing throat)) “consumed” by most people, is healthy, as it usually leads to (ahem) satiation. ;) (no, wait – I didn’t mean to wink! Now everyone thinks I’m a pervert – argh!)

[arkain101]

In reply to this topic and to the thoughts of "orbsycli" I have a short story to share that I think will draw the stage, picture, and thought logic that is being roughly drawn out here.

 

Section from link: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/dimensions.html

 

-An early attempt to explain the concept of extra dimensions came in 1884 with the publication of Edwin A. Abbott's Flatland: A Romance of Many Dimensions. This novel is a "first-person" account of a two-dimensional square who comes to appreciate a three-dimensional world.

 

The square describes his world as a plane populated by lines, circles, squares, triangles, and pentagons. Being two-dimensional, the inhabitants of Flatland appear as lines to one another. They discern one another's shape both by touching and by seeing how the lines appear to change in length as the inhabitants move around one another.

 

One day, a sphere appears before the square. To the square, which can see only a slice of the sphere, the shape before him is that of a two-dimensional circle. The sphere has visited the square intent on making the square understand the three-dimensional world that he, the sphere, belongs to. He explains the notions of "above" and "below," which the square confuses with "forward" and "back." When the sphere passes through the plane of Flatland to show how he can move in three dimensions, the square sees only that the line he'd been observing gets shorter and shorter and then disappears. No matter what the sphere says or does, the square cannot comprehend a space other than the two-dimensional world that he knows.

 

Only after the sphere pulls the square out of his two-dimensional world and into the world of Spaceland does he finally understand the concept of three dimensions. From this new perspective, the square has a bird's-eye view of Flatland and is able to see the shapes of his fellow inhabitants (including, for the first time, their insides).

 

Armed with his new understanding, the square conceives the possibility of a fourth dimension. He even goes so far as to suggest that there may be no limit to the number of spatial dimensions. In trying to convince the sphere of this possibility, the square uses the same logic that the sphere used to argue the existence of three dimensions. The sphere, now the shortsighted one of the two, cannot comprehend this and does not accept the square's arguments—just as most of us "spheres" today do not accept the idea of extra dimensions.-

 

There is a new consciousness and scratch on the package of the 'Neo' being. However strange or self centered it sounds I have experienced this transition of consciousness after quite a long period of 'work' to the very memorable moment it occured. With my own free will I can verge into this different consciousness as I think and hope just about anyone can do if they so choose to take the daunting steps to reaching it. Just as in the story of the acension of the 2D shape into the 3D world, a wondering consciousness can learn to enter the, how to explain, eternal truth of consciousness, much higher state of awareness.. Now I dont suppose anything new and amazing is to be seen from this state of being except for the wonders in the individuals consciousness. Like I said I think we have at this time found the 'package' of this changed consciousness, and in these moments the package is being scratched at bit by bit to reviel its inside.

 

I read theory on the universe and lifes role in it, but no matter how it came about the substance, the existence, the expansion of the consciousness seems to be the power behind any one thing that is. In this form of thinking it was not matter that allowed for the evolution and existence of consciousness but the consciousness itself that caused the evolution. In the same way a radio can take in a data, and turn it into reality into the matter, the radio signal can weaken and strengthen, it does not choose the music that evolves as the years pass by to new types of sound, but only acts as the doorway to allow the reality to pass through - is to our body and our consciousness, the body as the radio which can loose signals and wear out and change but the consciousness as the data will be the evolution that the body can allow to pass through. Sort of difficult to explain, but, what I am describing is a think as if to reverse the source of interpration of how and why anything is.

 

And so, many versions of consciousness reside on this earth from many diverse types of humans, but in an evolutionary sense, survival requires a new adaption of consciousness and some are to verge into it and in the natural way I think the older versions will die out and be lost.

[MagnetMan]

If both the intuitive and analytical halves of the human psyche are evoked via a balanced form of educational guidance, each person will exprience seven distinct stages of increasingly complex states of consciousness between birth and death.

 

 

1. Infancy. 0 - 4 years

2. Child 4 - 11 years

3. Puberty 11 - 14 years

4. Teen 14 - 21 years

5. Steward 21 - 42 years

6. Master 42 - 63 years (menopuase)

7. Sage 63 - 84 years

 

Each stage can be defined by relative perceptions of the space/time consortium - beginning in infancy from a naive (in the moment) state of relativity - and gradually gaining an increased sense of future event - which levels out at menopuase - and begins to reverse itself into an increased sense of past event during sagehood.

 

According the Tibetan Book of the Dead, the death moment compresses every event in life into a timelss moment of total recall.

 

I have no data to present on the above. This is simply observations dredged out of my own common sense, since I am now 65 and can look back at how I have experienced time and space for myself. You can take it or leave it at that.

[CraigD]

If both the intuitive and analytical halves of the human psyche are evoked via a balanced form of educational guidance, each person will exprience seven distinct stages of increasingly complex states of consciousness between birth and death. …

An interesting scheme, reminding me somewhat of the “actualization” part of Maslow’s hierarchy of needs. Much has been written about actualization. It’s arguably the least understood and most controversial part of the Maslow’s hierarchy.

 

MagnetMan, are you familiar with actualization and the hierarchy, and if so, how do they compare to your ideas? :shrug:

[MagnetMan]

An interesting scheme, reminding me somewhat of the “actualization” part of Maslow’s hierarchy of needs. Much has been written about actualization. It’s arguably the least understood and most controversial part of the Maslow’s hierarchy.

 

MagnetMan, are you familiar with actualization and the hierarchy, and if so, how do they compare to your ideas? ;)

 

No, never knew about Maslow's theory. Thank you for the link. Very interesting. There is somewhat of a similarity, but with marked differences in the hiearchy of values and from whence they stem.

 

The physiological needs and social behavior that we inherited from our primate and hominid stages of development are the base, naturally. Mother care, group affection, a hiearchal structure in group behavior and territorial protection are the natural foundation of the primate psyche. This foundation is genetically imprinted in our DNA.

 

The distinction between human and hominid had to have occured when enough neuron connections had been made between the two hemi-spheres of our expanding cortex. An inspiration, originating in the intuitive half of the cortex, crossed the hemispheric gap and an anaytical revelation of separation took place. What I am implying is that the first hominid to see him or herself as distinctly separate from others in the group and therefore from Nature itself (as an analytical observer - no matter how dimly) marks the birth of the first human ego. (plus/minus 2.5 million BC?) The subsequent evolution of the our psyche is built upon that basic naive revelation of egotistic self awareness.

 

After the birth of each modern child, we see this imprinted revelation of a seprate sense of self, being activated around the third year, which is when weaning automatically takes place. Prior to that moment the infant sees the mother as an extension of itself. This information is hightly important in gaining a more comprehensive understanding of what constitutes a healthy foundation of infant care. A mother should take extreme care not to entirely separate herself from the infant prior to self revelation and weaning. Complete loss of sense contact initiates instinctive feelings of panic. This trauma automatically sets off the crying reflex. If this diassociation is repeated often enough, crying for all other forms of mother/child neglect ( ie not feeding on time) becomes endemic. This in turn interferes with natural bonds of affection and inevitably leads to later forms of anti-social behavior.)

 

In Psyche-Genetics the development of a healthy human spcyhe is built upon a hierachal structure of social and spiritual ethics, which took a 100,000 generations of ancestral disciplines to imprint. In order to evoke these imprinted behavioral responces during child, teen and adult development, both sides of the cortex need to be exercised and stimulated by a set sequence of ethical disciplines.

 

The first ethic tha marks the Stone Age psyche is that of meticulous sharing.

The subsequent success of our specie was ensured by sharing and caring for the elders and infirm.

 

It took some 99.000 generations for this ethic to be fully imnprinted in the human psyche. It is the foundation of all subsequent expressions of our evolving intelligence. Without that basic ethic, we would be faced with the impossible task of trying to civilize a chimpanzee with every new born.

A superstitious belief in the universal soul (animism) accompanied this foundational period of human development,

 

The move into agriculture forced us, over the next 600 generations, to imprint a chore-based work ethic. The domestication of flocks and herds forced us to initiate, via circumcision guilds, an ethic of courage, so that we could face the lions and protect our herds. Shamanistic mediumship evolved as a connection between the living and our growing feelings of guilt,(due to laziness, not sharing, sloth, envy etc.) and our departed ancestors.

 

The move into national industries forced us, over the next 250 generations, to develope an ethic of concientious craftsmanship. A dogmatic scripture was needed to transcend previous oral-based totemic vendettas and hold the nation bound to a single godhead

 

Protest against religious dogmatism a hundred generations ago, led to a new age of scientific determinism. An ethic of intellectual integrity was gradually imprinted into our psyche.

 

This evolutionary process is on-going and still several Ages away from completing its full cycle. Our psyche needs to be imprinted with more advanced ethics, related to global stewardship and terra-forming, before our specie as a whole reaches the a final stage of cosmic transcendence.

 

This evolutionary-based sequence of human development paralells to some extent the chakra system of tantric yoga.

 

Hopefully this synposis of Psyche-Genetics, helps to explain the differences with Maslow.

[Queso]

This evolutionary-based sequence of human development paralells to some extent the chakra system of tantric yoga.

 

 

:ud: Amazing.

 

Can't believe you guys banned him.

[TheBigDog]

:ud: Amazing.

 

Can't believe you guys banned him.

Knock yourself out Orb.

 

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You can talk forever unless he bans himself.

 

Bill

[paigetheoracle]

Let us hope so but share prices in life can go down as well as up! (Life is a lift and our attitude causes us to rise like helium filled balloons or sink like lead ones)

[Queso]

Knock yourself out Orb.

 

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You can talk forever unless he bans himself.

 

Bill

 

already a member, thanks! :confused: