Dandav Posted December 27, 2023 Author Report Posted December 27, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, Moontanman said: Are you seriously suggesting that there is a solid bar magnet that pierces the Earth from the north to south poles? Yes! https://geomag.nrcan.gc.ca/mag_fld/fld-en.php Many mechanisms have been postulated to explain how the magnetic field is generated, but the only one that is now considered plausible is analogous to a dynamo, or generator - a devise for converting mechanical energy to electrical energy. To understand how a dynamo would work in the context of the Earth, we need to understand the physical conditions in the Earth's interior The magnet bar is the dynamo 13 hours ago, Moontanman said: Your citation does not support your assertion, in fact it negates it completely! Why? https://science.howstuffworks.com/asteroid-belt.htm So how do we explain the vast distance between Mars and Jupiter? Some astronomers have suggested that a separate planet or protoplanet actually formed between the two planets, but the impact of a high-speed comet broke up and scattered the newly formed body to create what we now know as the main or original asteroid belt. We also have an observation: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2023/oct/11/afterglow-cataclysmic-collision-between-two-planets-seen-for-first-time "Afterglow of cataclysmic collision between two planets seen for first time Collision of two ice giant planets produced hot, spinning object potentially hundreds of times the size of Earth" 13 hours ago, Moontanman said: Feel free to do so. Thanks 13 hours ago, Moontanman said: there is only gravity, to try and name tides as separate from gravity is nonsensical. Without gravity there is no tidal. However, Tidal is a side effect of gravity. https://courses.lumenlearning.com/suny-osuniversityphysics/chapter/13-7-tidal-forces/ Note that the forces exerted by the Sun are nearly 200 times greater than the forces exerted by the Moon. But the difference in those forces for the Sun is half that for the Moon. This is the nature of tidal forces. The Moon has a greater tidal effect because the fractional change in distance from the near side to the far side is so much greater for the Moon than it is for the Sun. In other words, although the Earth - Sun gravity is stronger by 200 times than the Earth - moon gravity, the moon has greater tidal effect. Please be aware that tidal comes with two orthogonal forces: On 12/15/2023 at 9:17 PM, Dandav said: http://burro.astr.cwru.edu/Academics/Astr221/Gravity/tides.html "So gravity "stretches" and "squashes" a moon. "stretches" = Horizontal tidal force Squashes" = vertical tidal force" The most important force for us is the "squashes" = vertical tidal force In the following article it is stated: https://geomag.nrcan.gc.ca/mag_fld/fld-en.php Permanent magnets cannot exist at the temperatures found in the Earth's core This statement is correct as long as we ignore the "squashes" = vertical tidal force However, as the moon is there around the Earth, its Horizontal tidal force add extra squash/pressure exactly vertically to the poles Please be aware that by increasing the pressure we should get a solid center. https://www.nbcnews.com/science/environment/kill-barred-owls-to-save-endangered-spotted-owls-proposal-rcna129926 The inner core’s outer shell and its newly confirmed innermost sphere both are hot enough to be molten but are a solid iron-nickel alloy because the incredible pressure at the center of the Earth renders it a solid state. Therefore, this extra tidal vertical squash/pressure should form the solid magnet bar. However, that magnet bar by itself can't create the requested EM energy. It is stated very clear: https://geomag.nrcan.gc.ca/mag_fld/fld-en.php Many mechanisms have been postulated to explain how the magnetic field is generated, but the only one that is now considered plausible is analogous to a dynamo, or generator - a devise for converting mechanical energy to electrical energy. So, we have the solid magnet bar / dynamo and now we need to explain how the internal Earth generator works. It is very clear that this magnet bar / dynamo must spin faster than the earth rotation in order converts mechanical energy to electrical energy. I thought about this issue for quite long time. My conclusions are as follow: Tidal force isn't a fixed force as the gravity isn't a fixed force. The Moon orbits in some sort of elliptical motion around the earth. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apsis#/media/File:Apogee_(PSF)_mul.svg Perigee 363,228.9 km Apogee 405,400 km That creates changes in the "squashes" = vertical tidal force. Those small changes in the tidal vertical force on the magnet bar core / dynamo is transformed into mechanical spinning motion of the dynamo. Please look at the following Toy demo: https://www.google.com/search?q=סביבון+לחיצה&sca_esv=594049696&rlz=1C1YTUH_iwIL1029IL1029&tbm=vid&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwijuJbcpbCDAxUzzwIHHZAHDBsQ_AUoAnoECAEQBA&biw=1536&bih=730&dpr=1.25#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:5cdf08cc,vid:LMCbgBHjIkA,st:0 So, the changes in the vertical tidal force are transformed into Dynamo spinning mechanical energy which is converted into electrical energy. As the dynamo is spinning inside the earth, the earth itself is also spinning due to the internal friction with the spinning dynamo. This is the main explanation why the earth keeps its spinning motion for billion years. Edited December 27, 2023 by Dandav
Moontanman Posted December 28, 2023 Report Posted December 28, 2023 You need a citation for this bar magnet speculation, not to mention the rest of it. So far you have failed at this.
Dandav Posted December 28, 2023 Author Report Posted December 28, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, Moontanman said: You need a citation for this bar magnet speculation I have already offered a citation for this real magnet bar / dipole / dynamo !!! Do you agree that the following message can't be considered as a silly claim? 21 hours ago, Dandav said: https://geomag.nrcan.gc.ca/mag_fld/fld-en.php Many mechanisms have been postulated to explain how the magnetic field is generated, but the only one that is now considered plausible is analogous to a dynamo, or generator - a devise for converting mechanical energy to electrical energy. If it is a silly claim, then please show how the Earth can generate its EM magnetic without any real dynamo / dipole /magnetic bar. If you confirm that the only one that is now considered plausible is analogous to a dynamo, or generator - a devise for converting mechanical energy to electrical energy, then please show how that Dynamo /dipole /magnetic bar had been formed and how the mechanical energy is created and be transformed into electric energy. Therefore, there is no speculation in my explanation about this Dynamo as it is the only real one for our Earth. The science community should give me a reward for my discovery, but unfraternally, this tread is set at the silly claim without offering real solution for the dynamo and for all the contradictions that we clearly observe. Edited December 28, 2023 by Dandav
Moontanman Posted December 28, 2023 Report Posted December 28, 2023 3 hours ago, Dandav said: I have already offered a citation for this real magnet bar / dipole / dynamo !!! Do you agree that the following message can't be considered as a silly claim? If it is a silly claim, then please show how the Earth can generate its EM magnetic without any real dynamo / dipole /magnetic bar. If you confirm that the only one that is now considered plausible is analogous to a dynamo, or generator - a devise for converting mechanical energy to electrical energy, then please show how that Dynamo /dipole /magnetic bar had been formed and how the mechanical energy is created and be transformed into electric energy. Therefore, there is no speculation in my explanation about this Dynamo as it is the only real one for our Earth. The science community should give me a reward for my discovery, but unfraternally, this tread is set at the silly claim without offering real solution for the dynamo and for all the contradictions that we clearly observe. I don't have to explain why not you have to explain why and so far all we have is your baseless assertions. Either back up your claims or I will lock this thread. If you feel like you've already provided citations for this then repeat them along with the links. It's not my or the scientific community's job to provide that evidence, it's yours, tread carefully here. This is not your private blog, your assertions go against the scientific consensus... back them up or they stay where they belong ie silly claims.
Recommended Posts