Parapsychology, Universal Mind, Psionics and Pseudoscience

[Tarantism]

In recent weeks i have been ferverently researching the idea of a "Universal Mind", and then relating it to the ideas of "parapsychology" and "psionics". the thing that constitutes the most doubt in the theory is this: i have read multiple definitions from different believers, contradicting each other. now, it is possible that some simply just dont know the theory as well as they think, another possibility is that they all jsut dont know what they are talkign about. here are the multiple theories that i have heard/read.

 

1. Universal Mind is a kind of human consiousness collective, a sespool of knowlege, into which any human with the right technique and training can "tap into" the collecive, in order to obtain knowlege realized by other humans. in this theory, all humans share one "origin" for consiousness, thus the sespool. this suggests a kind of "consciousness osmosis...:cup:

 

2. Every Human has an individual body, becuase they have an individual consiousness, and at the same time, every human has the same body, becuase they belong the same species. not the same individual body, but the idea that we all evolved from the exact same place, at reletivley the same time, and that we all behave nearly the same way. this forms a kind of makeshift paradox, the idea taht one can throw conflicting words together and call it a paradoxal scientific theory. the example in support of this theory is that you can stare at different annimal cells and make the speculation that they are all different, and then in the same session say that they are all the same. this idea seems to completely throw aside the ideas of "groupings" or "subdivisions". i cant even see how this is even a theory, but since it isnt nessesarily my opinion here that matters, lets see what Wiki has to say about scientific theory:

 

In science, a theory is a proposed description, explanation, or model of the manner of interaction of a set of natural phenomena, capable of predicting future occurrences or observations of the same kind, and capable of being tested through experiment or otherwise verified through empirical observation.

 

in this sense, it is difficult to consider Universal Mind a theory, regardless of who explains it. however, in the intrest of keeping on topic, i will come back to that later.

 

3. the idea that one can transmit, using psionics or telepathy, feeling or idea. now, from what i have observed, this can only be done with individuals who are well-aquanted. this suggests that it has nothing to do with telepathy or psionics, but simply knowlege of an individuals habits or personality presets, quite easily obtained by extended assosation with an individual. this is a kind of variation on the first theory in the sense that one can still "tap into" knowlege, only this kind of "osmosis" is on a much smaller scale, stemmingfrom certain individuals rather tahn the entire human population. in my mind, this is the most plausable of the three, only, like previously stated, i dont think that it has anything to do with telepathy or a "universal mind". this even breaches the definition of "universal":

 

Of, relating to, extending to, or affecting the entire world or all within the world; worldwide.

 

Often, the idea of universal mind has been likened to the idea of parapsychology, or the scientific study of the evidence of mental awareness or influence of external objects without interaction from known physical means. This is often explained by seperating the idea into three distinct groups: "Mind-to-Mind", or influence of extra-sensory perception (the ability to acquire information by means other than the known senses), folie a deux (a rare psychiatric syndrome in which a symptom of psychosis (particularly a paranoid or delusional belief) is transmitted from one individual to another. i have personally experienced this, but i was not sober.) and telepathy (the claimed ability of humans and other creatures to communicate information from one mind to another, without the use of extra tools such as speech or body language. from what i have experienced, this is only the case when the individuals involved are in a similar situation, perhaps under pressure or some other form of estacy. in this case, if the individuals are similar in personality type, the instinct will probably will be the same, therefore the seemingly "unspoken" information.). i will not go into the two other forms of parapsychology, because they do not relate to universal mind, outside of psychokinisis, or the idea taht one can move matter purely by mental force. this is absurd, i think we can all agree on that. the reason that this ties into universal mind is becuase of the idea that one can influence mental activity of another being simply through "concentrating hard enough" or "thinking loudly enough".

 

the offered evidence to this was given in an online essay, whose link i will post later, which stated the following:

 

or example, you suddenly remembered that you forgot something at a friends house that you left 10 minutes ago, and seconds later you receive a call from him where he tells exactly what you recalled just moment ago. What has happened is that when your friend calls you, he already "sends" the information into the Universal Mind and you receive it instantly and see it as a recall. In this example the connection to the information is made by the subconscious mind, both yours and your friend's. That's why some call it 'Collective Subconscious'.

 

once again, this example points towards two individuals dealing with a similar situation, and then recalling the "forgetting of said information" at nearly the same time by a matter of co-incidence. this hardly points to proof of universal mind...:)

 

the reason that i am skeptical about the idea of Universal Mind is because there doesnt appear to be any re-inactable test results to point in the direction of proof of the theory. i have made an attempt to outline the idea, and i am posting this thread in hopes to open discussion on how to prove or disprove this idea. not that outside opions are welcome, but please, dont just state an opinion, show some evidence!!!

[Tarantism]

oh, i forgot in the first post, but here are some links for research:

 

http://www.mind-energy.net/archives/19-Universal-Mind-article-part-1.html

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parapsychology

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychokinesis

[hallenrm]

I am tuned to your thoughts! In fact I can feel the resonance!!!! :cup:

[Tarantism]

im thinking that it could be tested by looking at brain frequencies during "communication". but, uh, hangers on could say that the change in brain frequency is so slight that we simply cannot detect it.

 

another idea is to have another one of those crossword-puzzle tests, only, give three crossword puzzles out to three control groups. (that is, 3 tests:group one, 3:2, 3:3. that may not make sense, but eh.)

[hallenrm]

im thinking that it could be tested by looking at brain frequencies during "communication". but, uh, hangers on could say that the change in brain frequency is so slight that we simply cannot detect it.

 

another idea is to have another one of those crossword-puzzle tests, only, give three crossword puzzles out to three control groups. (that is, 3 tests:group one, 3:2, 3:3. that may not make sense, but eh.)

So we would be back to the standard methods for disproving telepathy!

 

This field demands totally new methods to prove.

[Queso]

telepathy isn't what we think it is.

Tarantism,

research Archetypes on the unconsciousness,

and listen to your self,

more.

You'll hear other people.

 

It's evident that not only are we a completey wired network,

but antenni, as well.

Projecting, receiving, and sharing our existence.

[Tarantism]

So we would be back to the standard methods for disproving telepathy!

 

This field demands totally new methods to prove.

 

yeah, but its a start. any ideas? :)

[Tarantism]

telepathy isn't what we think it is.

Tarantism,

research Archetypes on the unconsciousness,

and listen to your self,

more.

You'll hear other people.

 

It's evident that not only are we a completey wired network,

but antenni, as well.

Projecting, receiving, and sharing our existence.

 

yeah, that sounds real great,

but how can you give evidence

otherwise its just convinient mad-libs with no real meaning

how is it evident??

and one other thing,

if "telepathy" isnt what we think it is,

then how do you know this is infact correct?

especially without re-creatable evidence,

[Queso]

Go to sleep

and know

you're transfering

your thoughts

into another energy body.

 

Sorcery is evident

when it occurs

and has for over

6,000 years.

 

Buddha

coulda been blind

and still saw.

[Queso]

hahahaa

I can't

:doh:

[Queso]

shhh

i'll convert

more than you do,

*****.

[hallenrm]

Tartanism

Brought up some great points

 

Can I keep typing while drunk??

 

:eek2:

 

You sure can!! and we can read you too!!

[Tarantism]

once again my friend,

big on metaphor, low on fact

there seems to be a re-occuring theme here.

now you bring up "sorcery"

perhaps the only real sorcerer is the one

who got you to believe in it,

kinda like Jesus.

[Tarantism]

give anything some FAITH

and it just may come true.

[Queso]

once again my friend,

big on metaphor, low on fact

there seems to be a re-occuring theme here.

now you bring up "sorcery"

perhaps the only real sorcerer is the one

who got you to believe in it,

kinda like Jesus.

 

Well the person who got me believing

that dreams are as real

as me typing this

was me.

 

Where's buddha, josh?

[Queso]

give anything some FAITH

and it just may come true.

 

Your imagination sucks! :hihi:

[Queso]

Can not you SEE

that we're a wireless network??

 

There are so many ALLUSIONS

and analogies occuring in the digital world

that you can shove right into the analog sense

and it fits

so SO SNUG.

 

We are all antenni

sharing our experience

in ways you might

never ever know.