Racoon Posted May 30, 2006 Report Posted May 30, 2006 So whats with this Scientology thing?"Scientology" is "the study of knowledge or truth" So what does that mean for its 10 million members?Ron Hubbard founded this new religion, and he died in 1986.Guess he was quite a writer and traveler, and smart guy. They have the "8 Dynamics of existence" and stuff :) Is this just some psuedo-hippie science cult, or a serious religion? heres a little info link:http://www.religioustolerance.org/scientol1.htm Quote
C1ay Posted May 30, 2006 Report Posted May 30, 2006 As far as I can tell, scientology is a mental disorder..... Turtle 1 Quote
InfiniteNow Posted May 30, 2006 Report Posted May 30, 2006 As far as I can tell, scientology is a mental disorder.....:) Quote
Freddy Posted May 30, 2006 Report Posted May 30, 2006 Back in thr 70's some people I knew got into Scientology and a few remain in it. I read part of Dianetics when I was about 20 and it sounded bogas then. I am so glad that I did not spent any time trying to remember the "engrams" in my brain as others have. In my opinion Hubbard founded a religion in order to create wealth for himself. He surely knew of P. T. Barnum's line, " a sucker is born every second." Hear that Tom Cruise? Here is a study that debunks Hubbard's Engram Hypothesis.http://www.xs4all.nl/~kspaink/cos/essays/engrams.htmlhttp://skepdic.com/dianetic.html Quote
CraigD Posted May 31, 2006 Report Posted May 31, 2006 “Scientology” has 2 main components. One seems pretty sensible, and goes something like this:Though life’s unavoidable pains and misfortune, and occasionally the malicious acts of others, one’s mind gets messed up. One can, through a sort of “cognitive therapy” known as “Auditing”, fix this, reaching a state called “Clear”. The next part is pretty supernatural. Once one gets Clear, one gains a series of extraordinary abilities, beginning with being smart, charismatic, and happy, advancing to being able to remember all of history, having total mastery over time and space, and other abilities so wondrous as to be either secret or simply indescribable to the uninitiated. This is called being an “Operating Thetan”, which can be roughly translated as “liberated soul”. Some Scientologists seem to thrive in its practice – a lot of people (some prominent actors and writers among them) credit Scientology with their success. Some don’t – the internet is full of account of people who feel defrauded and betrayed by it. Unlike many religions, one can spend a lot of money being a Scientologist, which appears to strongly contribute to the bad experiences many people have with it. I find Scientology much less interesting than a biography and character study of its founder, L. Ron Hubbard. Because students of his life tend to be either Scientologists or anti-Scientologists, one can easily get a distorted account (I’d brand the religioustollerance.org article a distorted, pro account, Arnie Lerma’s website a distorted, anti one). There are, however, many good, objective studies of him (wikipedia has a pretty good, brief one) and the many equally fascinating people he interacted with, notably John “Jack” Parsons (from whom he allegedly stole two boats and one woman!). Though an accomplished (IMO) SF writer, Hubbard was not a competent scientist (1930-31, he tried, but failed, to earn an Engineering degree from GWU), but clearly admired scientists and engineers. A common theme in his fiction is the triumph of down-to-earth scientists and engineers over conniving bureaucrats and politicians. Despite (or perhaps because of) being a convicted con-man and professional stretcher-of-the-truth, he was likable and charismatic. He is known (though many Scientologists fiercely dispute the claim) to have bragged "I'm going to invent a religion that's going to make me a fortune. I'm tired of writing for a penny a word." When asked “who, if you could have a conversation with any person, living or dead, would you choose?” I inevitably find myself skipping past the expected answers such as "Albert Einstein", and answering “L. Ron Hubbard”. Quote
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