North American Union & the Amero

[Turtle]

Just heard the phrases North American Union & Amero for the first time tonight. I heard the plan is to have them in effect by 2010. I have to go check a couple sites, but a quick Googlet gave me:

Web Results 1 - 10 of about 15,700,000 for North American Union. (0.42 seconds)

 

What's up with that!?:eek:

Prepare to respond....

 

OK On your mark, get set, ....GO! :)

[Turtle]

Beet ya to the first goivernment link!

http://www.spp.gov/

;) :eek: :)

 

Post Script More links & an 'official' statement of intent:

 

http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=14965

 

The North American Union plan, which Vincente Fox has every reason to presume President Bush is still following, calls for the only border to be around the North American Union -- not between any of these countries. Or, as the CFR report stated:

 

The three governments should commit themselves to the long-term goal of dramatically diminishing the need for the current intensity of the governments’ physical control of cross-border traffic, travel, and trade within North America. A long-term goal for a North American border action plan should be joint screening of travelers from third countries at their first point of entry into North America and the elimination of most controls over the temporary movement of these travelers within North America.

[TheBigDog]

I didn't catch this when it was posted. As a fan of really bad ideas I must say this is my favorite. :)

 

Bill

[TheFaithfulStone]

Okay, so Human Events Online's article is a bunch of black helicopter fear mongering, but it really does seem like a pretty bad idea.

 

TFS

[Turtle]

I didn't catch this when it was posted. As a fan of really bad ideas I must say this is my favorite.

Bill

 

 

Okay, so Human Events Online's article is a bunch of black helicopter fear mongering, but it really does seem like a pretty bad idea.

TFS

 

:) Let's just start a pool then on how many months from now Thursday June 29 in the year of our lord 2006, the Amero appears on the World Monetary Exchange trading 1 for 1 with the Euro.

Get set....Go!:)

[Racoon]

First you need to build the infrastructure. It will be a great boon to the economy, like building dams and stuff.

 

But then... the invasion. the fleecing. the economic empirialist greed taking control.

I hope I'm wrong; that'd be great :naughty: But sorry, I don't trust George W. as far as I could throw him. (granted he could never have devised and facilitated this himself)

 

Coming Through! The NAFTA Super Highway

 

The planned NAFTA Super Highway would radically reconfigure not only the physical landscape of these United States, but our political and economic landscapes as well.

Kelly Taylor is an Austin-based writer and filmmaker, and the producer of a politically based TV talk show.

 

 

All across America, mammoth construction projects are preparing to launch. The NAFTA Super Highway is on a fast track and it's headed your way. If you don't help derail it, you may soon be run over by it - both figuratively and literally.

 

The NAFTA Super Highway is a venture unlike any previous highway construction project. It is actually a daisy chain of dozens of corridors and coordinated projects that are expected to stretch out for several decades, cost hundreds of billions of dollars, and end up radically reconfiguring not only the physical landscape of these United States, but our political and economic landscapes as well. [/QUOTe]

 

Ah, but the mere asking of that question shows that you're still operating under the old paradigm that sees the United States as an independent, sovereign nation. However, that paradigm began to change following passage of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) in 1994. NAFTA, which was sold to the American public as a simple trade agreement, was actually far more than that, setting in motion a process for the gradual social, economic, and political "integration," or merger, of the three NAFTA countries - Canada, the United States, and Mexico - into a North American Union.

 

In 2005, this merger process became more explicit and aggressive when President Bush, Mexico's President Vicente Fox, and Canada's Prime Minister Martin launched what they call the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP). Any serious study of the SPP will clearly reveal that its ultimate aim is the dissolution of the United States into a North American Union patterned after the increasingly dictatorial regional government now running the European Union. Henceforth, under this plan, the borders between our nations will be incrementally erased in favor of a joint "perimeter" around all three countries.

 

One part of this plan calls for streamlining the flow of traffic from Mexico, including a massive increase in containers from China and the Far East offloading at Mexican seaports and then being transported by truck and rail into the United States via the new NAFTA Super Highway. These new cargo streams would cross the border in supposedly secure FAST lanes, checked only electronically until the first Customs stop in Kansas City!

[Racoon]

The NAFTA Super Highway

 

It's not just American ports that are fast slipping into foreign ownership; it's highways, too. A Spanish company, Cintra Concesiones de Infraestructuras de Transporte, S.A., has bought the right to operate a tollroad through Texas and collect tolls for the next 50 years.

 

Called the Trans-Texas Corridor (TTC), on which construction is planned to begin next year, this highway would bisect Texas from its border with Mexico to Oklahoma. Hearings held by the Texas Department of Transportation this summer attracted hundreds of angry Texans.

 

Plans call for a ten-lane limited-access highway to parallel I-35. It would have three lanes each way for passenger cars, two express lanes each way for trucks, rail lines both ways for people and freight, plus a utility corridor for oil and natural gas pipelines, electric towers, cables for communication, and telephone lines.

 

Central to this plan is a massive taking of 584,000 acres of farm and ranch land at an estimated cost of $11 to $30 billion, property then lost from the tax rolls of counties and school districts. After the U.S. Supreme Court decision in Kelo v. City of New London, no one need worry about the power of eminent domain to take private property.

 

The Trans-Texas Corridor will be the first leg of what has been dubbed the NAFTA Super Highway to go through heartland America all the way to Canada. This would be a major lifeline of the plan to merge the United States into a North American Community.

 

[Boerseun]

Hey - I kinda like the idea. Not the foreign ownership of the toll concession, but the idea of unification. And, if you unify far enough, there won't be any foreigners left to make foreign ownership of anything possible!

 

...but do you think if North America unifies, and they trade in the peso and the US and Canadian dollars for "Ameros", emulating the Euro, and if Africa eventually reaches the stated goal of monetary unification in 2015-2020, they'll call it the "Afro"? :naughty:

 

That'll bring a whole new dimension to the hairstyles of the '70s!

[InfiniteNow]

That NAFTA superhighway goes right through my house... Seriously. You see the "N" in Austin on the map, where I-35, Hwy 290, and Hwy 183 converge... :hihi:

 

 

Curious, Racoon. Thanks for pointing this out to me, as my ignorance on the topic was unintentional, and I will be searching to learn more. :confused:

[Sacri Sankt]

That NAFTA superhighway goes right through my house... Seriously. You see the "N" in Austin on the map, where I-35, Hwy 290, and Hwy 183 converge... :confused:

 

wow. time to move!

 

as for the union, i dont think there is any chance of it ever happening. a reduction in tarrifs and more open trade sure, but an actual customs union? it suits the usa too well to have the current situation. they get cheap mexican labor, and access to cheap canadian drugs and such, not to mention the 'brain drain' that attracts all of canadas best and brightest to the usa. a union would spread the wealth more equally, so there is no way americans will ever vote for it (who votes for a reduction in quality of life???)

[Sacri Sankt]

hmm, that gov website has a handy faq, including this:

Myth: The SPP is a movement to merge the United States, Mexico, and Canada into a North American Union and establish a common currency.

 

Fact: The cooperative efforts under the SPP, which can be found in detail at SPP Home, seek to make the United States, Canada and Mexico open to legitimate trade and closed to terrorism and crime. It does not change our courts or legislative processes and respects the sovereignty of the United States, Mexico, and Canada. The SPP in no way, shape or form considers the creation of a European Union-like structure or a common currency. The SPP does not attempt to modify our sovereignty or currency or change the American system of government designed by our Founding Fathers.

 

if the amero is ever to live, it doesnt seem like this initiative will lead to it.

[Racoon]

More info: Read this link! :confused: :hihi:

Bush Administration Quietly Plans NAFTA Super Highway by Jerome R. Corsi - HUMAN EVENTS

 

Quietly but systematically, the Bush Administration is advancing the plan to build a huge NAFTA Super Highway, four football-fields-wide, through the heart of the U.S. along Interstate 35, from the Mexican border at Laredo, Tex., to the Canadian border north of Duluth, Minn.

 

Once complete, the new road will allow containers from the Far East to enter the United States through the Mexican port of Lazaro Cardenas, bypassing the Longshoreman’s Union in the process. The Mexican trucks, without the involvement of the Teamsters Union, will drive on what will be the nation’s most modern highway straight into the heart of America. The Mexican trucks will cross border in FAST lanes, checked only electronically by the new “SENTRI” system. The first customs stop will be a Mexican customs office in Kansas City, their new Smart Port complex, a facility being built for Mexico at a cost of $3 million to the U.S. taxpayers in Kansas City.

 

As incredible as this plan may seem to some readers, the first Trans-Texas Corridor segment of the NAFTA Super Highway is ready to begin construction next year. Various U.S. government agencies, dozens of state agencies, and scores of private NGOs (non-governmental organizations) have been working behind the scenes to create the NAFTA Super Highway, despite the lack of comment on the plan by President Bush. The American public is largely asleep to this key piece of the coming “North American Union” that government planners in the new trilateral region of United States, Canada and Mexico are about to drive into reality......

 

What does this mean to Americans? It means a cheap labor pool so vast that the middle class could soon be finding itself on the endangered species list.

The rate of inflation for medical costs and college tuition will help ensure the decline.

 

 

 

[Racoon]

hmm, that gov website has a handy faq, including this:

 

 

if the amero is ever to live, it doesnt seem like this initiative will lead to it.

 

 

Report to Leaders

 

Here Tom Tancredo is taking a stand! As members of Hypography who advocate you should write and express your concerns to our elected officials, here is a link.

 

Team Tancredo 2008

[Cedars]

I was against NAFTA and this only makes it worse.

 

In the state of the state address, tim pawlenty (gov MN) announced a drive to change our gas tax to more like oregon. Part of the whine expressed was the hybrid cars (I would like to see exactly how many of those are in operation in MN). GPS mounted tracking systems to tax people not by the gallon used, but by miles driven. A bs deal for those of us who have taken gas consumption efforts to heart. Now I wonder if this plan is related to funding this idea.

[InfiniteNow]

The Texas governor's office seems to be getting the most pushback regarding our land, and just how willing governmental authorities will be to strong arm people off their property.

 

Texas Governor Rick Perry - Trans Texas Corridor Fact Sheet

 

The site for a group of people who seem to be watching this closely:

CorridorWatch.org - Challenging the Wisdom of the Trans-Texas Corridor.

[Turtle]

hmm, that gov website has a handy faq, including this:

Myth: The SPP is a movement to merge the United States, Mexico, and Canada into a North American Union and establish a common currency.

 

Fact: The cooperative efforts under the SPP, which can be found in detail at SPP Home, seek to make the United States, Canada and Mexico open to legitimate trade and closed to terrorism and crime. It does not change our courts or legislative processes and respects the sovereignty of the United States, Mexico, and Canada. The SPP in no way, shape or form considers the creation of a European Union-like structure or a common currency. The SPP does not attempt to modify our sovereignty or currency or change the American system of government designed by our Founding Fathers.

 

 

if the amero is ever to live, it doesnt seem like this initiative will lead to it.

 

Interestingly enough, that little bit was not on the SPP page when I started this thread; it has been added in reaction to Corsi et al who have been reporting on this.

 

Read between the lines. "The SPP does not attempt to modify our sovereignty or currency or change the American system of government designed by our Founding Fathers." --The plan is to do this 'within' the law, same as Bush's ploys to allow torture, secret wiretaps with no court orders, war in Iraq, etcetera. There is no intention to have anyone vote on it; in the vernacular of Nike, they're just going to do it.

[Turtle]

Mexican trucks are OK to roll in the US now as the government rejected a suit by US unions to stop them. Good grief. :hihi:

 

Results 1 - 10 of about 1,550,000 for Mexican trucks roll

 

Mexican Trucks Roll Into America Sept 1

 

FMCSA - Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration proceeding with cross-border plan

 

"They are determined to open our highways to Mexico-domiciled trucking companies and truck drivers regardless of the concerns that have been raised by Congress and the American people.

While the vast majority of the comments were submitted by individuals and were "no more than a few sentences," the FMCSA notice stated that a number of groups and organizations had submitted detailed comments, including OOIDA, AFL-CIO, the Teamsters, the ATA, the Oregon DOT, Public Citizen, PATT, CRASH and 114 members of Congress.