The Third Electrical Current- Sully DC [SDC] Patented

[ArchAngel]

A US Patent has been awarded to John Timothy Sullivan for the Sully Direct Current, which is not AC nor DC. Discovered as part of new a electrolysis technique.

BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, USA -- Clear Energy, Inc., a small R&D company in Baltimore, has been issued US Patent number 7,041,203 for a new electrical current.

 

pesn.com/2006/06/12/9500280_New_Electricity_SullyDC

More at source

 

Diagram from Mr. Sullivan:

upload2.net/page/download/NlCMeZe2G5WBCNm/SDC-vs-DC.pdf

 

Homepage:

sullydc.com/index.html

 

Motion Diagram:

artpad.art.com/gallery/?ivwok27luvg

 

Mr. Sullys' forum thread at PhysOrg:

forum.physorg.com/index.php?showtopic=5266

 

Patent and Images:

rexresearch.com/sullivan/sullivan.htm

 

It is not clear in the images in the first link, but the electrode is a coil within a coil. The purpose being to shake the electrode.

 

Current flowing through the coils changes direction while current flowing out of them, and through the electrolyte does not change direction.

 

Both AC and DC properties within the same device without switching polarity.

 

New diagrams to be released soon better illustrating the system with new applications.

[ArchAngel]

There is one benefit that is not so obvious, and you need to look at it as a power source to understand. From the sully DC power power station, across the Sully DC power lines, and too your Sully DC powered device there is no change in current direction within the wires so there is not the EMF loss/hazard associated with AC, but you still have the switching benefits of AC.

[Jay-qu]

If you want to discuss the physics of a concept, go ahead unabated - but if you are out with a one-sided view to only promote a concept (maybe your own or for your own gain) then it doesnt belong on this forum. Thanks

 

Jay-qu

[Alon]

the big question, is what's the circuit's efficiency?

[Roadam]

I dont understand that concept. Why is it something new. it looks just as dc current to me.

 

With ac current you have possibility to change voltage to cuurent ratio and thus less electricity is wasted, how would you change that in sully?

[anglepose]

it looks like someones run a dc current through some superconducters or somthing weird and they have a strange result i doubt is actualy a new current just a new form

[ArchAngel]

I dont understand that concept. Why is it something new. it looks just as dc current to me.

 

Its new because it is an entire electrical system from the power plant, through the power lines, and to your electrical devices that has unique properties in transmission, and new applications not possible with either AC or DC of any form. AC, DC, and SDC can be converted from one to another.

 

It also creates a new class of electrical components that can be dual function. In the electrolyzer shown in the examples there is a dual component Coil-Electrode. Alternating current from both ends of the wire flows through the coil, and direct current flows from the two wires through the electrode and through the conductive fluid. All without switching polarity. The component is both a coil, and an electrode.

 

Contrasting and comparing with AC and DC shows unique properties.

 

With AC you switch polarity.

 

Not with SDC.

 

With DC current does not change direction.

 

Not with SDC.

 

With AC power lines you emit Electro-Magnetic fields which wastes energy, and is supposedly a health hazard.

 

Not with SDC.

 

With DC power lines [if there were any] you have huge resistive losses.

 

Not with SDC.

 

With an AC power source electrocution hazard is higher because current changes directions through the body.

 

Not with SDC.

 

With SDC an inductive coil and an electrode can be one device with AC flowing through the coil, and DC flowing through the electrode without switching polarity.

 

Not with AC, or DC.

[ArchAngel]

upload2.net/page/download/Wfkv2jhWORMY31J/SDC4.pdf.html

 

A new diagram I just received from Mr. Sullivan. I hope this helps explain better what is happening in the system.

[Roadam]

Could you explain that in scientific way and not some simple market strategy.

 

Whenever there is cuurent flowing trough a wire there is some loss in electricity and this current is dc no matter what. Or you can prove otherwise?

[arkain101]

strangely enough it sounds as though he is claiming to be able to transfer electrical power without moving electrons from atom to atom. Instead some kind of electron sharing and splitting is going on?

 

Is the current through the wires magnetic?

Is it then shifted into electric dc/ac optionality at the destination?

 

Can one send a magnetic field and convert it to electric at the destination?

[C1ay]

I'll sure be glad when the patent office can afford some decent help....

[Roadam]

Well, magnetic field is becouse electrons are moving. :naughty:

 

I hope there is at least a page long scientific description of this.

And I have already seen that diagram sorry.

[ArchAngel]

strangely enough it sounds as though he is claiming to be able to transfer electrical power without moving electrons from atom to atom. Instead some kind of electron sharing and splitting is going on?

 

Is the current through the wires magnetic?

Is it then shifted into electric dc/ac optionality at the destination?

 

Can one send a magnetic field and convert it to electric at the destination?

 

It helps if you try to forget what you CAN'T do with typical AC and DC circuits.

 

Lets use figure 12 from the patent for discussion to avoid confusion:

rexresearch.com/sullivan/fig12.jpg

 

From the Patent:

The multi-directional electric currents have the effect of accelerating processes that rely on interaction between a current and the medium that carries the current, and of eliminating asymmetries that can lead to scaling or premature wear in batteries and other electrolytic systems. The medium that carries the multi-dimensional currents may be an electrolyte, gas, gel, semiconductor, or any other medium capable of carrying current between two electrodes, and having at least two dimensions so as to enable variation in the current direction.

...................................

If the voltages applied to the electrodes are DC voltages, then the multi-directional currents have characteristics of DC currents, and if the voltages applied to the electrodes are two or three phase AC voltages, then the multi-directional currents have characteristics of AC currents. However, unlike conventional DC and AC currents, the currents generated by the method and apparatus of the invention move or rotate. If the electrodes are one-dimensional wires, then the currents rotate in two-directions. If the electrodes themselves move, or extend over two or three-dimensions, for example a plane or a curved plane, then the currents will move in three-dimensions.

 

SDC requires at least one extra PHYSICAL dimension in the current path which is the fluid electrolyte[Water + Electrolyte]. Through wires you can only have AC or DC in their various forms. SDC has characteristics that are found in both AC and DC that would seem to be mutally exclusive, and they are in a single dimensional circuit.

 

In figure 12 you see two wires. One is connected to the two positive terminals, and the other to the two negative terminals. The four switches are alternated 180 degrees out of phase. In the first half of the cycle current flows from one pole through the wire, then through the coil to all points where conductor is touching the fluid medium, then across the medium to the other wire, and on to the opposing pole. At no time are there any more than two poles with a switch closed. In the second half of the cycle the current path is the same except that its coming from the opposite end of the wire.

 

Think of the coil as having two single dimensional connections, and one multi-dimensional connection. Through the connection between the two power supply poles you have AC current without changing polarity. Through the connection between the poles and the medium you have DC current[in single dimensional terms. Actually its SDC].

 

Through the coil the direction of the current flow changes, but polarity never changes. Through the medium the current flow between anode and cathode never reverses, but its physical direction through the medium does change. It sort of sways back and forth without reversing direction. In absolute terms using one dimensional measurments you have continuous DC current flow between anode and cathode. It has all the properties of DC, but since the current flow though the medium is changing directions the current takes on the magnetic properties of AC current.

 

You only need to change the direction, not reverse directions.

 

It is DC with a property normally associated with AC.

 

And it is AC with a property normally associated with DC.

 

The effect cannot be reproduced with AC or DC. The properties are mutually exclusive in those systems. The new physical dimension in the circuit allows the current to possess an additional electrical property.

 

If you are having a hard time understanding don't feel bad. I can't begin to do even the simplest parts of the math, but I can visualize what is happening in my mind.

 

And I think 3DC [implying new dimensions] might be a better term, but Mr. Sullivan might not like the idea.

 

Michael

[ArchAngel]

ADD:

 

SDC current through the electrolyte in the example also carries a time component even though flow is continuous DC in single dimensional terms.

 

In other designs the current allows other combinations of properties that are mutually exclusive to AC and DC.

 

You can have your cake, and eat it too.

[ArchAngel]

Image:

i11.photobucket.com/albums/a175/archangel432/sdcva.jpg

 

In a one dimensional world the only way to change direction is to reverse direction, but thats not true in a multi-dimensional world.

 

The change in current direction through the coil-electrode is accomplished by switching which end of the wire is connected to the anode or cathode, but current flow between electrodes across the fluid medium does not reverse directions. Anode and Cathode do not switch, but direction does change.

 

Current flow through the wire changes direction without changing polarity, and curent flow through the fluid medium does not reverse direction.

 

A wire may be a single dimensional current path, but an electrode is not, and neither is a fluid medium capable of carrying current such as water with an electrolyte added.

[Qfwfq]

Where's the novelty?

 

From what I can see, it appears to be balanced 4 phase AC. Although the electric engineering has been worked out for an arbitrary number of phases, balanced or unbalanced (se Fortescue for instance), industry typically uses 3 phase systems for practical purposes. Your household monophase supply is simply taken from one of the three phases of the grid and the distribution company strives to keep the overall load more or less balanced.

[ArchAngel]

From what I can see, it appears to be balanced 4 phase AC.

 

In any form of AC you switch anode, and cathode. Not with SDC.

 

Think of the path as everything between origin, and destination. The path of the flow changes, but the origin and destination do not switch. It goes from the same place to the same place, but leaves and arrives by different paths. In a solid circuit the path never changes.

 

You can't change origin and destination without switching polarity with either DC or AC. The four wires from the SDC power supply allow changing both origin and destination through a fluid medium capable of conducting current without switching polarity. Its not AC because anode, and Cathode never switch, and its not DC because origin and destination do change.

 

Its all about controling and using the additional dimensions of a fluid medium. While the nature of fluid conduction is understood controling it through switching without reversing polarity is new and unique.

 

The point is that, the way the four terminals are switched, the current WITHIN ONE ELECTRODE reverses direction, and has zero average value at the center. At the same time, the voltage BETWEEN ELECTRODES is a constant DC value (ignoring switching transients). Thus “multidirectional DC” refers simultaneously to the multidirectional intra-electrode current and the single direction inter-electrode current.