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[DarkColoredLight]

You are using the tools that created artifical intellegence. Which I believe the next step is being artifically intellegent.

 

I haven't stepped foot in a bookstore in years, rarly do I even pick up the newspaper to skip to the comics. I haven't even seen the person, I used to call my best freind, in years. Yet, I have books shipped to my house (Amazon), news articals at my finger tips (Hypography), along with comics that are one click away (no favorites, but Google is always there for you when you need it), and up to date information as to what little Adam did yesterday (Myspace). That is only if some real intellegence comes into the web that is world wide, willing to update the information.

 

 

Could america survive one day without the use of the internet?

Would the world ever survive if the "bad guys" turned it off?

 

Find out next week on as the www spins.

 

 

Here ends the reading of DarkColoredLight: Chapter; Internet, Verses; The world.

[ronthepon]

Be more explicit, what are you hinting at?

[DarkColoredLight]

What's being hinted?

 

 

We are nothing with and we are nothing without. Helpless. Hopeless. Coming together to help and hope. Or, you know, to kill time.

 

 

 

 

t=0

[Racoon]

Could america survive one day without the use of the internet?

Would the world ever survive if the "bad guys" turned it off?

 

Yes.

There would be the transition back to how things used to get done.. You know, wait in actual line at the store, talk to people face to face, withdraw/deposit your money by actually going to the bank. :doh: Actually going to the Library and looking something up.

 

The problem becomes Electricity. without it, you can't get anything done these days.

If something major were to happen, like say a Katrina, that shuts off all the power, you can't get your money out of the bank.. like what ocurred.

 

But I wouldn't mind if the Internet went away.

Except that I couldn't talk to all you folks. I'd have to find some new friends to talk science and stuff . ;)

 

The Internet is useful, but not really as crucial to life as we'd like to think. :hyper:

People have been getting by without it until 8-10 years ago. :hihi:

 

Internet is a good way to keep people in their homes and distracted.

 

But I'd be a hypocrite if I said I didn't need it for School, ordering some stuff, and thought expression. It does make things more possible...

 

There should be an "Internet Free" day tho'. A day where everyone turns off their computers, takes a few deep breaths, and goes outside. :)

 

Thats a good idea DarkColoredLight.

speaking of which.. Its beautiful out here right now.. I think I'll do just that!

Log Out,

Turn off computer.

Go outside.

 

Racoon

[DarkColoredLight]

Trust me, that day will come.

 

Hide from the outside, for people will see you, not your message.

 

 

Here is my sad spectrum of the internet. Our ecomony is innerconnected with the internet technology. If the internet fails by means of shutting down, or internally combusting. The reaction would be the ecomony would suffer. We could life without both, but have no will to do so? If there's no will, there's no way that it could happen, right?

 

I forsee everyone pointing a finger. Everyone trying to find their own personal scape goat, for their own satisfaction. Not realizing that three fingers are pointing back at them. Them being the cause of the effect. But, in this case the effect would come first. Creating utter choause (choas+cause=?)

 

I heard that we only learn from suffering. This would bring our world ecomony into suffering, FORCING US to learn, how to rebuild it, or how to destroy it. So learn from it now, or the forces will do what they do best, force you to ..........

 

 

 

BLINK.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bye bye internet,

DCL

[sergey500]

America can survive without internet, without technology in general is a different question. Just one small question...how is it even possible to turn of the internet? :confused:

[DarkColoredLight]

You'll see.

 

Just as Al Gore created. Someone must destroy. You'll also see the after effects. When we can't relay messages at break neck speeds.

 

The world depends on the internet. The world will go crazy without. If you don't prepare, you will be caught off gaurd.

 

 

Prepreparing,

AC

[InfiniteNow]

Two words: Science Forum.

 

Just as Al Gore created. Someone must destroy. You'll also see the after effects. When we can't relay messages at break neck speeds.

Are you shaking a magic eight-ball and just typing what it says each time you post?

 

The world depends on the internet.

Please define the following terms so I can make sense of the quote above:

- World

- Depends

- Internet

 

I know what I think they are, but need clarification on how you perceive those terms so I can understand how you could make such an absolute comment without any support or justification.

 

The world will go crazy without.

Support and justification for above please.

[Lord Hakk]

back up to that "if terrorists shut down the internet".

That is pretty much impossible, because stuff from the internet is from every different part of the world, you have to use servers to host stuff, and pretty much all of the worlds population uses it. someone could temporarly stop it, but in a couple of weeks people would have it up and running again, unless you litterally destroyed every....single....service....provider people would still find a way to get on.

[DarkColoredLight]

Please define the following terms so I can make sense of the quote above:

- World

- Depends

- Internet

 

I know what I think they are, but need clarification on how you perceive those terms so I can understand how you could make such an absolute comment without any support or justification.

 

 

Support and justification for above please.

 

World: Economy.

Internet: Means for fast cash.

Depends: Humans are generally lazy enough to just go online and buy things, or use other methods of purchasing rather than cash.

 

Now the average joe might not be directly effected. But, big business, banks, other systems that use the internet technology for it's speed will be not stopped but put in it's place.

 

The stock market it the least of our worries.

 

This prediction may or may not come true.

Same with NYC, July 4th 2006. But what if it does?

[Buffy]

back up to that "if terrorists shut down the internet".

That is pretty much impossible...

Yep. A lot of people don't realize that one of the main requirements of the "internet" when the DoD was funding its creation through DARPA was to create a network that would survive a major nuclear strike: they wanted to make sure that if they lost Washington and New York, that they could still get a command from Boston to Topeka to launch our missles. Its also the reason that China hasn't really been able to "shut down" access to "forbidden" sites, because while they can try to control the entry points, the only solution they really have is to find and crack down on users who are bypassing (the survivable part!) the gateways, but its easy to hide the sources of packets, so they can never find enough fingers to put in the dike...

 

Power systems have similar capabilities, and while its not as effective as the Internet, you still need a "perfect storm" to shut it down...

 

Got any proposals on how you'd shut it down, Darklight?

 

The AI angle is an interesting one here too, because the people who are working on Internet-The-Next-Generation are using AI algorithms to do more efficient routing...very asstute Darklight!

 

Quantum Internetworking,

Buffy

[DarkColoredLight]

I didn't say I would and want to. Just that there is the possiblity, and there is a possiblity that certain people seek to destory. Using that possiblity.

 

 

I would hope that the internet isn't created in the movie fashion "red button."

But if someone were to created said button, we would be in deep trouble, and it should be considered.

[Buffy]

I didn't say I would and want to.

Cool! I agree that there might be *others* who might want to!

Just that there is the possiblity....

And that's the only point that I was making: there ain't a "possibility" because there's no "red button." Its a very loose amalgamation, ant-hill-like: there's really no "head" to cut off, and cut off any appendage and it will grow a new one.

 

Another way of looking at it is that the really scary thing is not that someone *could* turn it off, but that no one will ever be *able* to!!!!! ;)

 

Daisy....Daiiisy, ;)

Buffy

[Lord Hakk]

 

Another way of looking at it is that the really scary thing is not that someone *could* turn it off, but that no one will ever be *able* to!!!!! :hihi:

 

Daisy....Daiiisy, :hihi:

Buffy

y would that be bad? the internet is a source of many things it has changed the way we interact with society and talk to people, it has become part of our daily lives, now unless some hackers(crackers actually but I got chewed out for saying hackers so I put this little memo for after. I all them hackers because that’s what the ignorant people of the world call them) find a way to route a virus that steals personal information throughout the entire WWW just by turning on a computer, now that would be scary. And that wouldn’t last long by any standards because if that happens EVERTY single anti-virus professional will sell and antidote protection from that virus..... But they probably would charge a lot....... maybe they would make a key for it so

u have to buy one CD per comp.......then maybe desperate internet addicts (there’s an actual hospital for internet addicts in Hong Kong) would go crazy, but so many maybes maybe u should just ignore me.......I’m only 14 anyhow ......but I really don’t want to think about that ( the I whole internet virus thing, not the fact that I’m 14).I really hope I’m not giving any hackers(crackers) ideas.

[DarkColoredLight]

y would that be bad? the internet is a source of many things it has changed the way we interact with society and talk to people, it has become part of our daily lives, now unless some hackers(crackers actually but I got chewed out for saying hackers so I put this little memo for after. I all them hackers because that’s what the ignorant people of the world call them) find a way to route a virus that steals personal information throughout the entire WWW just by turning on a computer, now that would be scary. And that wouldn’t last long by any standards because if that happens EVERTY single anti-virus professional will sell and antidote protection from that virus..... But they probably would charge a lot....... maybe they would make a key for it so

u have to buy one CD per comp.......then maybe desperate internet addicts (there’s an actual hospital for internet addicts in Hong Kong) would go crazy, but so many maybes maybe u should just ignore me.......I’m only 14 anyhow ......but I really don’t want to think about that ( the I whole internet virus thing, not the fact that I’m 14).I really hope I’m not giving any hackers(crackers) ideas.

 

 

Nah, people would just buy new computers. That might be a scare to buy some future age type of "safe computer" with impeniteralbe peace and security.

 

 

Bill Gates, get on your grind,

DCL

[paigetheoracle]

I forsee everyone pointing a finger. Everyone trying to find their own personal scape goat, for their own satisfaction. Not realizing that three fingers are pointing back at them. Them being the cause of the effect. But, in this case the effect would come first. Creating utter choause (choas+cause=?)

 

I heard that we only learn from suffering. This would bring our world ecomony into suffering, FORCING US to learn, how to rebuild it, or how to destroy it. So learn from it now, or the forces will do what they do best, force you to ..........

 

Sadly the above is true and that is what pessimists like me keep pointing out ('Everything put together falls apart' Paul Simon). In a Roman Triumph, riding beside the victorious general in his chariot would be another gentleman reminding him that he was mortal. The purpose of this was to remind him that overconfidence always leads to disaster (The unexpected/ the unprepared for). Caution and vigilence is always needed for this reason. Every victory is followed by defeat (and vice-versa). We are not immortal. We don't know everything. We can't foresee everything and must be open to every possibility to be prepared in some sense for it. This is why emotionally elation is followed by depression. We can't control everything and even if we could we'd bore ourselves to death. Pain is a child learning this sad lesson.

 

As for your first point - blaming something or someone out there for our failure is trying to avoid taking responsibility for it ourselves ('It's out there/over there! Don't look at me').

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bye bye internet,

DCL

[paigetheoracle]

Another way of looking at it is that the really scary thing is not that someone *could* turn it off, but that no one will ever be *able* to!!!!! :eek:

 

Daisy....Daiiisy, :hyper:

Buffy

 

That is what the monster is - as long as we create a subservient being (slave) that does our will, we are quite happy with it but should it start thinking and acting for itself (become an autonomous being in its own right), then we want to kill it before it replaces us. This goes back to the Greek myths and Saturn eating his children because he feared that a new race might replace the Titans. You want to know why we teach our children dogma? Well this is it - fear of them growing up ('Childhoods End' by Arthur C. Clarke) and replacing us. It's 'Invasion of Tthe Body Snatchers' or any other paranoia where we destroy the world to save it (As insane as threatening suicide bombers with death, should they get caught - threaten them with 'life' as that is what they are afraid of facing).