Do you believe in destinity?

[bryankennedy]

I sure hope destiny doesn't exist. I am fine with the sort of pre-disposition that Rudy Rucker describes in his new book. I think we could say things are pre-ordered but so infinitely complex as to serve as random and influenceable.

[DarkColoredLight]

I sure hope destiny doesn't exist. I am fine with the sort of pre-disposition that Rudy Rucker describes in his new book. I think we could say things are pre-ordered but so infinitely complex as to serve as random and influenceable.

 

On the other note, if you're destined you'll begin to control the chain of event in your life; people you meet, people you call back, time you waste, time you learn, time you sleep, etc etc. You kind of turn into a egotistical dick, if you're impacient. Or a great asset if you are pacient.

 

The thing about destiny though, you're willing to change everything in your life to begin the journey towards your destiny. But, rarely without a huge chain of bad events will a person change their destiny. :shrug:

 

Choose or lose situation,

DCL

[hallenrm]

The origin of the word destiny, is in the word destination. The destination of a traveler lies in the path he is following. We are all put on a particular path from the moment we are born.

 

In fact our fate is no different from that of a molecule in an ensemble, say a gas. If the gas is near a heat source, and a particular molecule is moving at a velocity that is lower than the average velocity of molecules at the temperature the gas is likely to reach, it is not unreasonable to believe that the velocity of the molecule will increase with the passage of time.

 

Therefore, i see no contradiction in the first statement of cockydude

 

there is "destiny." Its like other people's own lives intertwined into another's with much complexity resulting in "destiny" which the individuals have no control upon.

No magic involved, con incidence maybe

 

But is it really coincidence?:eek2:

[paigetheoracle]

Yes, now get out of my way! For me it is another name for will. If you don't believe you wont get anywhere, you don't because you won't put the effort in to succeed. As for the belief that it has been prophesized that someone will do something, then again I'd say yes because the same things keep cropping up again and again I believe and what we might be tapping into with these sorts of things is racial memories of it happening before and realizing it's bound to happen again. As for it being 'you' in particular who invents these things or conquers these barriers - see part one of my answer.

[hallenrm]

Yes, now get out of my way! For me it is another name for will. If you don't believe you wont get anywhere, you don't because you won't put the effort in to succeed. As for the belief that it has been prophesized that someone will do something, then again I'd say yes because the same things keep cropping up again and again

 

Pardon, but how did I get in your way? If it is your will power that matters, why did it not stop you from responding to the post here, was there any compulsion? The only compulsion would have been, that we were destined to communicate thus.

I never willed it just like you!

 

I believe and what we might be tapping into with these sorts of things is racial memories of it happening before and realizing it's bound to happen again.

 

I really donot understand how do racial memories crop up in this discussion.

 

As for it being 'you' in particular who invents these things or conquers these barriers - see part one of my answer.

 

Pardon, but I did not invent any of these things, and by the way what is the part one of your answer?

[paigetheoracle]

Pardon, but how did I get in your way? If it is your will power that matters, why did it not stop you from responding to the post here, was there any compulsion? The only compulsion would have been, that we were destined to communicate thus.

I never willed it just like you!

Firstly, this is a joke (initial sentence) but this is an instance possibly of something being a joke only if you understand it and seeming a threat if you don't. Your second point I find amusing - good statement or series of statements! The question is do you define will differently from me and if so, what do you mean by destiny?

 

 

 

I really donot understand how do racial memories crop up in this discussion.

Racial memories crop up, as far as I'm concerned, in thinking you're destined to do something, like create the first car or airplane. To me it's entirely feasible that there have been other civilizations on the Earth and that craft that travel over land, in the sky and under water, would most probably have been invented (science fiction authors like Jules Verne and HG Wells and prophets like Mother Shipton and Edgar Cayce, could have tapped into these ideas, projecting them into the future but originally these ideas could have come from the past).

 

 

Pardon, but I did not invent any of these things, and by the way what is the part one of your answer?

Part one is will power - 'you' latching onto an idea and getting out into the world before somebody else does: Think of Darwin and Wallace both independently coming across the idea of evolution but we only remember one of them because they got it out first (There is also the case of 3 different people latching onto the basis of telephony but only one being remembered for it - was that destiny or will?).:)