α CMa Posted July 29, 2006 Report Posted July 29, 2006 actually, some minds can and some cant. drugs are at least half in the mind, you know. i suppose you havent experimented? i havent ever had any problems controlling my thoughts...or at least i only have had a problem once or twice, but it certainly didnt turn me into some kind of psychotic killer.how much drug intake is in your control ,isnt it? what happens with OD? people choose to have the next high. Why do people become dependent on drugs?adiction! why have the depression if we dont get the drug? depression is when you not yourself. a state of depression is not the normal state of being. Quote
Tarantism Posted July 29, 2006 Report Posted July 29, 2006 this all depends on the drug we are considering and the mind we are considering. overdose occurs easier on some drugs than others. in the case of LSD, overdose isnt possible, while in the case of cocaine, overdose is rather easily reached. addiction is, as with so many things, partially in the mind. i believe that drug addictions can be seperated into two distinct groups: mental and physical. in the case of LSD or other psychedelics, most "addictions" are mental, people just love the high so much taht they continue to do it. this is easily broken by pure willpower or a bad trip. ketamine would be an exception becuase of its horrendus addictive properties, both mental and physical. physically addicting drugs such as methamphetamines or ketamine or heroine and opium are different, after any kind of binge use, short or long, the biody begins to tell itself that it needs the chemical to survive. the "depression" that you talk about could be the result of physical and/or mental addiction. my question to you is: what is a "normal" state of being. my argument is that both "normal" and "perfect" are human concepts that only exist in the mind and are unreachable, and are also one in the same. Quote
α CMa Posted July 30, 2006 Report Posted July 30, 2006 . the "depression" that you talk about could be the result of physical and/or mental addiction. my question to you is: what is a "normal" state of being. my argument is that both "normal" and "perfect" are human concepts that only exist in the mind and are unreachable, and are also one in the same.all people try to be happy. is that not true? what does one do when he is happy or peaceful or satisfied? that person becomes more productive. if all the members of a society are happy satisfied individuals that society will become more productive. there will be more arts and innovative ideas. has any one ever reached the pinical of technological achievement? i think there will be technological discoveried or improvements or inventions as long as there are beings who can think. can we ever stop thinking?apart from when we are dead ofcourse. can we ever stop improving? so theres the answer that perfection is the aim but we will not reach it. because we will constantly keep improving.people who are sad or depressed can not achieve as much as the happy people can. Quote
Turtle Posted July 30, 2006 Report Posted July 30, 2006 all people try to be happy. is that not true? what does one do when he is happy or peaceful or satisfied? that person becomes more productive. So green light on sadists then? Rubbish.:cup: people who are sad or depressed can not achieve as much as the happy people can.Counts out Newton and John Nash then; equal rubbish.:) No matter how complex (or shallow) an hypothesis, a single counter-example discounts its validity. ronthepon 1 Quote
Tarantism Posted July 30, 2006 Report Posted July 30, 2006 i have never known a human to be satisfied. Quote
Michaelangelica Posted July 30, 2006 Report Posted July 30, 2006 tool-using, creativity, consciousness of self. a social animal Turtle 1 Quote
Turtle Posted July 30, 2006 Report Posted July 30, 2006 tool-using, creativity, consciousness of self. a social animalTool using absolutely! It encompasses the qualifying creativity, self, & cooperative behavior. What is creativity if not a tool? What is cooperative social behavior if not a tool? What is the identification of self, if not a tool? Well said Michael.:shrug: Quote
TheFaithfulStone Posted July 31, 2006 Report Posted July 31, 2006 Just wanted to clarify my post that went (perhaps justly) ignored earlier. It isn't that 'human beings' don't have essential traits - it's just I don't consider accidents of genetics 'essential' - that is - I don't consider them to be what makes us "human." The unique thing about people is that people are the only animal capable of DENYING their essential traits. We are the only animal that is radically free. (Thank you Sartre!) TFS Tarantism 1 Quote
DFINITLYDISTRUBD Posted December 30, 2009 Report Posted December 30, 2009 Silly monkeys....the only trait that makes a human human is to be born with the genetic makeup of a human. Quote
Dd'sEvilTwin Posted December 30, 2009 Report Posted December 30, 2009 Silly monkeys....the only trait that makes a human human is to be born with the genetic makeup of a human. Is it essential to be human? If not I think I should like to be a dog:D baring that I think.....well I try not to think......but.......the need to dominate others...no animals got that one too...to survive....nah.. animals want to live as well...using tools.....nope animals do that too....to reproduce....the only thing that make a human a human is being a human though not necessarily human or humane Quote
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